Anonymous wrote:And then because we're playing with a full deck of losers, with get MJT with this:

https://news.sky.com/video/marjorie-taylor-greene-snaps-at-sky-correspondent-when-questioned-on-leaked-signal-chat-13336361

Seriously why are these people public officials in 2025?

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Anonymous wrote:Why did Congress approve Hegseth et al?!

Ernst and Tillis were receiving death threats from MAGAs for just considering whether or not to vote for Hegseth. And Elon is teed up to spend hundreds of millions to primary any Republican who doesn’t goosestep in lockstep with Trump. This is where we are.

FFS.women journalists get death threats every week and still manage to do their jobs. Dems speak out daily and are alive and well. This is a weak @ss excuse. They need to do their jobs. They can take down the president.

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Anonymous wrote:Why did Congress approve Hegseth et al?!

Ernst and Tillis were receiving death threats from MAGAs for just considering whether or not to vote for Hegseth. And Elon is teed up to spend hundreds of millions to primary any Republican who doesn’t goosestep in lockstep with Trump. This is where we are.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone asking how or why?

I'm with you, " how and why " should be the focus plus an immediate enforcement of SCIF only discussions moving forward.

In my book Goldberg doesn't look too good in this either. In my profession if I receive confidential information that I have no reason to receive, my professional training would be to immediately call it to the attention of the sender and delete the information . In this case, Goldberg should have immediately notified the DNI head so that his phone could be secured by them and analyzed for malware and the mission itself should have been put on hold until all phones involved were collected and studied for malware.

But Goldberg, who incidentally had at one time become a citizen of a foreign country and served in the military in a foreign county, did NOT take this immediate step to secure the US mission by alerting the DNI and POTUS- as was his duty as an American. Perhaps he doesn't truly consider himself one ?

Second question: as many of us know, just like IG and FB " share my contact list" is a means to access the phone numbers and contacts of all of Goldberg's contacts, so , in keeping himself lurking on the chat for 2 days- someone else may have been able to view the battle plans. Perhaps THIS was the Intent all along by the original hacker??

Bottom line- of course, no more Signal, Whats App chats ( both are in AWS servers, btw ) so nothing is secret there to the NSA. NSC needs to accept fact that all Presidential records are discoverable and stop trying work arounds that actually put our troops more at risk.

AND, as we all learned in KDG- if you find something that isn't yours, you immediately return it to the rightful owner. Jeff Goldberg effectively held onto someone's wallet for 2 days, counted it's cash value and deliberated what that could for him and then finally chose how to exploit it. THAT is ultimately, Un-American , IMHO.

Did you read the Atlantic article? He explained that he initially stayed on the chat because he thought it was either someone spoofing Waltz and trying to trick him so he was curious where it would go (he's a journalist, it's a possibility) or maybe Waltz added him on purpose to give him some information. He wasn't sure it was legit until it was serious.

I am a lawyer and if I receive a misdirected email, I would delete it. I would hope that another lawyer would do the same but I know that not all would. And I know that a journalist might not.

A journalist is SUPPOSED to report on matters of public concern. Does no one realize this???

Anonymous wrote:I just have one word - emails. Would the Biden team be given a pass if they made the same “mistake”?

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone asking how or why?

I'm with you, " how and why " should be the focus plus an immediate enforcement of SCIF only discussions moving forward.

In my book Goldberg doesn't look too good in this either. In my profession if I receive confidential information that I have no reason to receive, my professional training would be to immediately call it to the attention of the sender and delete the information . In this case, Goldberg should have immediately notified the DNI head so that his phone could be secured by them and analyzed for malware and the mission itself should have been put on hold until all phones involved were collected and studied for malware.

But Goldberg, who incidentally had at one time become a citizen of a foreign country and served in the military in a foreign county, did NOT take this immediate step to secure the US mission by alerting the DNI and POTUS- as was his duty as an American. Perhaps he doesn't truly consider himself one ?

Second question: as many of us know, just like IG and FB " share my contact list" is a means to access the phone numbers and contacts of all of Goldberg's contacts, so , in keeping himself lurking on the chat for 2 days- someone else may have been able to view the battle plans. Perhaps THIS was the Intent all along by the original hacker??

Bottom line- of course, no more Signal, Whats App chats ( both are in AWS servers, btw ) so nothing is secret there to the NSA. NSC needs to accept fact that all Presidential records are discoverable and stop trying work arounds that actually put our troops more at risk.

AND, as we all learned in KDG- if you find something that isn't yours, you immediately return it to the rightful owner. Jeff Goldberg effectively held onto someone's wallet for 2 days, counted its cash value and deliberated what that could for him and then finally chose how to exploit it. THAT is ultimately, Un-American , IMHO.

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Anonymous wrote:LOL this is such a hoot. Watch Waltz make no sense trying to make sense of how Goldberg's number ended up on his phone and in the group chat. Apparently it "got sucked in." Remember that Waltz claims he has never met Goldberg. To her credit, Laura Ingraham was pretty relentless in pinning him down.

I know this is not the point you are making but it is absolutely disgusting that a man with the privilege of serving at the highest level of United States government would so blithely and publicly call an individual American citizen “bottom scum” and “losers” on national television, and also that any member of the media would allow them to get away with this.

This alone should be cause for firing. It’s disgusting.

Agree. Here’s Goldberg’s response…

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Anonymous wrote:LOL this is such a hoot. Watch Waltz make no sense trying to make sense of how Goldberg's number ended up on his phone and in the group chat. Apparently it "got sucked in." Remember that Waltz claims he has never met Goldberg. To her credit, Laura Ingraham was pretty relentless in pinning him down.

I know this is not the point you are making but it is absolutely disgusting that a man with the privilege of serving at the highest level of United States government would so blithely and publicly call an individual American citizen “bottom scum” and “losers” on national television, and also that any member of the media would allow them to get away with this.

This alone should be cause for firing. It’s disgusting.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone asking how or why?

I'm with you, " how and why " should be the focus plus an immediate enforcement of SCIF only discussions moving forward.

In my book Goldberg doesn't look too good in this either. In my profession if I receive confidential information that I have no reason to receive, my professional training would be to immediately call it to the attention of the sender and delete the information . In this case, Goldberg should have immediately notified the DNI head so that his phone could be secured by them and analyzed for malware and the mission itself should have been put on hold until all phones involved were collected and studied for malware.

But Goldberg, who incidentally had at one time become a citizen of a foreign country and served in the military in a foreign county, did NOT take this immediate step to secure the US mission by alerting the DNI and POTUS- as was his duty as an American. Perhaps he doesn't truly consider himself one ?

Second question: as many of us know, just like IG and FB " share my contact list" is a means to access the phone numbers and contacts of all of Goldberg's contacts, so , in keeping himself lurking on the chat for 2 days- someone else may have been able to view the battle plans. Perhaps THIS was the Intent all along by the original hacker??

Bottom line- of course, no more Signal, Whats App chats ( both are in AWS servers, btw ) so nothing is secret there to the NSA. NSC needs to accept fact that all Presidential records are discoverable and stop trying work arounds that actually put our troops more at risk.

AND, as we all learned in KDG- if you find something that isn't yours, you immediately return it to the rightful owner. Jeff Goldberg effectively held onto someone's wallet for 2 days, counted it's cash value and deliberated what that could for him and then finally chose how to exploit it. THAT is ultimately, Un-American , IMHO.

Did you read the Atlantic article? He explained that he initially stayed on the chat because he thought it was either someone spoofing Waltz and trying to trick him so he was curious where it would go (he's a journalist, it's a possibility) or maybe Waltz added him on purpose to give him some information. He wasn't sure it was legit until it was serious.

I am a lawyer and if I receive a misdirected email, I would delete it. I would hope that another lawyer would do the same but I know that not all would. And I know that a journalist might not.