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Anonymous wrote:Why do people think that the recovery of the submissive will be quick? Even if they are located and are alive and with oxygen, it’s not a quick lift to get them out. It will take days to lift this up to surface.

How many people really think this will be a rescue operation? Most people know this is hopeless.

Many on this thread haven’t gotten the memo.

They are down to last few hours of oxygen. The writing is on the wall for those not in the know.

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Anonymous wrote:Why do people think that the recovery of the submissive will be quick? Even if they are located and are alive and with oxygen, it’s not a quick lift to get them out. It will take days to lift this up to surface.

How many people really think this will be a rescue operation? Most people know this is hopeless.

Many on this thread haven’t gotten the memo.

Anonymous wrote:My dad was a Cold War submariner. He the knew the Navy officer who took the Trieste down to the deepest part of the Pacific at 37,779 feet. The capability to rescue something like this from that depth(Titantic)does not exist. Very sad.

Sad, but they all knew this.

Anonymous wrote:Why do people think that the recovery of the submissive will be quick? Even if they are located and are alive and with oxygen, it’s not a quick lift to get them out. It will take days to lift this up to surface.

How many people really think this will be a rescue operation? Most people know this is hopeless.

Why do people think that the recovery of the submissive will be quick? Even if they are located and are alive and with oxygen, it’s not a quick lift to get them out. It will take days to lift this up to surface.

My dad was a Cold War submariner. He the knew the Navy officer who took the Trieste down to the deepest part of the Pacific at 37,779 feet. The capability to rescue something like this from that depth(Titantic)does not exist. Very sad.

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I hope these people are found and rescued, and that with their billions they will pay back the costs of being rescued from what I agree was entirely a vanity project at now great financial and emotional cost to the public.

I guess you feel the titanic victims themselves should have been billed for their rescue.

Traveling via a normal mode of transportation is not a vanity project, so no.

I don't care about the cost of this rescue mission. The government wastes so much money on a daily basis, this is a drop in the bucket. It's hard to get excited about this. Our tax dollars are often wasted. So what.

You don't have to get excited about this but on balance I think that it would be better the billionaires to pay for their own search and rescue missions instead of the taxpayers.

I can think of lots of ways to spare taxpayers. This barely registers.

Okay, but I'm not wrong.

Well you are, because they won't be billed.

LOL I am not saying they will be billed.

You've decided that you're right about who should pay and who shouldn't. Who agrees with you? Not the Coast Guard and US Government. So, what exactly are you right about? The government wastes a shit ton of money every day. And you think stopping these rare rescues would make even the slightest difference?

A lot of people agree with me but that isn't even the point, I think that if you sit and think for one minute whether a billionaire--one individual who has a THOUSAND million dollars--should pay for a rescue operation, or if it should be the US government which is financed in large part through working people, you should pick the billionaire.

And in case this wasn't clear, this is just a thought exercise.

Whatever. Get over it.

Who the hell are you again? Oh, right. Nobody.

Just like you. But at least there are better people than you out there who do the right thing and don't make petty decisions because they are jealous of the rich. I'm glad they call the shots and not you.

Yes, we’re alllll super jealous of the people dying two miles underwater with a full bank account they’ll never use. You’re a moron.

They aren't taking their money with them. Their survivors will still have it. And they won't have to spend a penny on the rescue. And that makes you big time mad.

For the sensitive readers, just remember, the adventurers hearts will go on.

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Anonymous wrote:May I ask a dumb question?

We have pics of the Titanic wreck, so clearly someone has been down there before? How did they live to tell the tale?

Many submersibles have gone down there. Even Titan has gone down before and returned.

Then why is everyone like "OMG THIS IS SO DUMB FOR PEOPLE TO GO" if people have been before

It’s honorable to take risk in the name of research, science, something you believe in and work for that is bigger than yourself. Hence why we don’t think astronauts or the Wright Brothers are stupid - the risk counts for something. But this was just ego tourism. It was rich people who had no business doing this taking a massive risk simply because they had the money to do it and say they did it. The risk here (death in a horrible way) was really high for the actual payoff.

Are you joking? The Wright brother weren't selfless researchers wanting to better society. They were motivated by greed. They wanted to be rich.

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Anonymous wrote:May I ask a dumb question?

We have pics of the Titanic wreck, so clearly someone has been down there before? How did they live to tell the tale?

Many submersibles have gone down there. Even Titan has gone down before and returned.

Then why is everyone like "OMG THIS IS SO DUMB FOR PEOPLE TO GO" if people have been before

I guess you joined the party late.

1. The submersible is controlled by a video game controller.
2. The company did not use appropriate safety measures.
2a. The window/porthole was not tested to last at 13,000 feet below the surface.
3. The waiver says three times you might die.
4. The company had been sued by a whistleblower (who cited safety issues).
5. On earlier trips, the submersible had trouble resurfacing and was stuck once before.
6. The toilet is a hole and they "play music really loud" when someone needs to use it.
7. The lighting is from a camp store.
8. The owner thinks safety measures impede "innovation."

They're in a group tin can coffin for a party of 5.

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Anonymous wrote:I would love for there to be a happy ending to this horror story, but if there aren’t going to be any survivors, I hope they died really early on. Depressurization would be preferable to slowly running out of oxygen in a cramped space.

If you were going to go on a super risky excursion like this, would you bring a suicide method with you? Can you even buy cyanide pills?

Hasn't it been four days as of now? I think time has run out.

+1 if not out of air, then food and water. Plus sitting there with bodily waste.

they can't even stand up, sitting down in that tight space

Not being able to stand for four days sounds awful. Not even being able to stretch out to make yourself comfortable. Just horrific.

Death by PE!

Anonymous wrote:"because the passengers were sealed inside the vessel by bolts applied from the outside, "There's no way to escape, even if you rise to the surface by yourself. You cannot get out of the sub without a crew on the outside letting you out."

What? I can't believe they would do that.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65953872

I know. I saw them bolting them in on the CBS video. I think that's the most unbelievable/crazy part for me. They are sealed inside.

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Anonymous wrote:May I ask a dumb question?

We have pics of the Titanic wreck, so clearly someone has been down there before? How did they live to tell the tale?

Many submersibles have gone down there. Even Titan has gone down before and returned.

Then why is everyone like "OMG THIS IS SO DUMB FOR PEOPLE TO GO" if people have been before

It’s honorable to take risk in the name of research, science, something you believe in and work for that is bigger than yourself. Hence why we don’t think astronauts or the Wright Brothers are stupid - the risk counts for something. But this was just ego tourism. It was rich people who had no business doing this taking a massive risk simply because they had the money to do it and say they did it. The risk here (death in a horrible way) was really high for the actual payoff.

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Anonymous wrote:May I ask a dumb question?

We have pics of the Titanic wreck, so clearly someone has been down there before? How did they live to tell the tale?

I think the first to take photos was an unmanned sub. But there have been manned subs, like Alvin, which is a spherical sub made out of titanium. The lost titan is different because it’s a tourist sub, not made by a huge research institution like Wood’s hole like Alvin.

Makes sense. Thank you.

Yes, remember in the movie, the divers are using robots to film and that's how the necklace was recovered?

Rose found the necklace in her pocket after the ship went down. She keeps mum
and returns it to the ocean as an old woman at the end of the movie.

The divers are basically grave robbers looking for the necklace. They find the drawing and are interested when Rose calls up asking if they found the necklace. Pretty gross.