Anonymous
Post 04/07/2022 08:16     Subject: Re:Barr and Durham

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There are emails to back Durham’s statements up


Durham’s statement is stupid. The FBI knew he worked for the DNC.


The text message he revealed in Monday's filing said this to General Counsel for the FBI James Baker:

"Jim—it’s Michael Sussmann. I have something time-sensitive (and sensitive) I need to discuss. Do you have availability for a short meeting tomorrow? I’m coming on my own—not on behalf of a client or company—want to help the Bureau. Thanks."

This text was sent the day before he told Baker about "purported data and 'white papers' that allegedly demonstrated a covert communications channel" between the Trump Organization and Alfa Bank, which has ties to the Kremlin.

[b]So, he claimed to be representing himself. A lie.




The bolded is the crux of the issue.


Is a personal text message subject to those laws? Doubtful.


So we are no longer denying that Sussman lied, just debating if he can be held accountable?


What is the evidence that he was in fact there on behalf of a client? What client specifically?


He worked for Hillary Clinton. That's been established.


What is the evidence he was there on behalf of Hillary Clinton? He denies it. The burden is on Durham to prove it. So what's the evidence?


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10689769/John-Durham-releases-damning-text-message-proving-Clinton-lawyer-Michael-Sussman-lied-FBI.html?fr=operanews

There's a lot more as stated in this article.




The article just repeats Durham's allegations. Allegations are not evidence.


Jig is up. More will come out soon. Wait for it.


Translation: you got nothing. The trial is mid-May. Better hurry up with that evidence.


You're right. Nothing will probably happen with this crew.

However, it's not 'nothing'. The whole Trump/Russia collusion story was made up. So Sussman giving info to the FBI 'on his own behalf to help' (i.e. information laundering for Clinton) is a pretty big deal. None of it is true. The bank, the pee tape, the dossier. None of it. Sussman worked for Clinton. The odds he was going on his own behalf is laughable.


Actually, a lot of it was true. Go read the Mueller report.


I’m sorry. None of it is true



All has since been discredited. It’s all unraveled.


Do you not understand that the aforementioned document is the Senate Intelligence Committee report which was put together under Republican-led leadership?


DP.
Doesn't matter. It has all been discredited. More evidence has come to light.
Problem with Congressional committee investigations is that they usually amount to squat and often times, incorrect conclusions.


Translation: nah nah nah nah I can’t hear you!

Pretty much. They keep thinking that Durham/Barr is going to amount to something but they’re unaware of what felonies their own party commits.
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2022 08:12     Subject: Re:Barr and Durham

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There are emails to back Durham’s statements up


Durham’s statement is stupid. The FBI knew he worked for the DNC.


The text message he revealed in Monday's filing said this to General Counsel for the FBI James Baker:

"Jim—it’s Michael Sussmann. I have something time-sensitive (and sensitive) I need to discuss. Do you have availability for a short meeting tomorrow? I’m coming on my own—not on behalf of a client or company—want to help the Bureau. Thanks."

This text was sent the day before he told Baker about "purported data and 'white papers' that allegedly demonstrated a covert communications channel" between the Trump Organization and Alfa Bank, which has ties to the Kremlin.

[b]So, he claimed to be representing himself. A lie.




The bolded is the crux of the issue.


Is a personal text message subject to those laws? Doubtful.


So we are no longer denying that Sussman lied, just debating if he can be held accountable?


What is the evidence that he was in fact there on behalf of a client? What client specifically?


He worked for Hillary Clinton. That's been established.


What is the evidence he was there on behalf of Hillary Clinton? He denies it. The burden is on Durham to prove it. So what's the evidence?


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10689769/John-Durham-releases-damning-text-message-proving-Clinton-lawyer-Michael-Sussman-lied-FBI.html?fr=operanews

There's a lot more as stated in this article.




The article just repeats Durham's allegations. Allegations are not evidence.


Jig is up. More will come out soon. Wait for it.


Translation: you got nothing. The trial is mid-May. Better hurry up with that evidence.


You're right. Nothing will probably happen with this crew.

However, it's not 'nothing'. The whole Trump/Russia collusion story was made up. So Sussman giving info to the FBI 'on his own behalf to help' (i.e. information laundering for Clinton) is a pretty big deal. None of it is true. The bank, the pee tape, the dossier. None of it. Sussman worked for Clinton. The odds he was going on his own behalf is laughable.


Actually, a lot of it was true. Go read the Mueller report.


I’m sorry. None of it is true



All has since been discredited. It’s all unraveled.


Do you not understand that the aforementioned document is the Senate Intelligence Committee report which was put together under Republican-led leadership?


DP.
Doesn't matter. It has all been discredited. More evidence has come to light.
Problem with Congressional committee investigations is that they usually amount to squat and often times, incorrect conclusions.


No, it hasn't. Not even the Steele Dossier was "all discredited." Around 75% of the dossier's content was independently corroborated as true. Another 15% or so was verified as generally true but with minor, nonsubstantive inaccuracies. Around 10% remains yet to be proven, but very little of the content was actually disproven, contrary to the right wing bleating about how it was completely false and completely debunked.

The only "more evidence has come to light" are a tiny handful of things like "Clinesmith lied on the FISA warrant" when Clinesmith didn't know Page was an informant - and even those findings don't actually substantively debunk or affect any of the findings.


My Lord, woman. Wishing it so will not make the dossier a legitimate thing.

The only reason any of it was true was because the dossier was compiled using open source information..... stuff that was already out in the press.

The Steele report reads like a pile of rumors surrounded by public information pulled off the Internet, and the Horowitz report does nothing to dispel this notion.
At the time the FBI submitted its first FISA application, Horowitz writes, it had “corroborated limited information in Steele’s election reporting, and most of that was publicly available information.” Horowitz says of Steele’s reports: “The CIA viewed it as ‘internet rumor.’”

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/political-commentary/horowitz-report-steele-dossier-collusion-news-media-924944/

And, there has been a whole bunch of other information that has come out regarding the FISA warrants. A lot.

The dossier, compiled by former British spy Christopher Steele for political opposition research firm Fusion GPS, which was hired by the Clinton campaign and Democratic party, was “central and essential” to the FBI’s Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) application to spy on Trump campaign aide Carter Page. However, the IG report noted that the application contained numerous errors and omission. The newly-declassified footnotes show that the FBI was aware of significant problems with dossier’s sources while seeking or renewing the spying authority, yet they continued to push forward, failing to update the FISA court with the critical exculpatory information.

For example, footnote 350 indicates that the FBI received a U.S. intelligence report on January 12, 2017, warning of an inaccuracy in the dossier related to Michael Cohen, and assessing that the material was “part of a Russian disinformation campaign to denigrate U.S. foreign relations.”

That same day, the FISA warrant against Page was renewed for the first time.

A similar U.S. intelligence report arrived on February 28, 2017, undercutting a key allegation against Trump, noting the claims “were false, and that they were the product of RIS “infiltrat[ing] a source into the network” of sources that contributed to the dossier.

Just over a month later, the FISA warrant was renewed a second time.

According to footnote 342, in early June of 2017, after Special Counsel Mueller had taken over the investigation, investigators learned that Russian intelligence was aware of Steele’s opposition research work in early July of 2016, before the FBI began its investigation.

On June 27, 2017, the FISA warrant was renewed a third time.


https://www.grassley.senate.gov/news/news-releases/ig-footnotes-serious-problems-dossier-sources-didn-t-stop-fbi-s-page-surveillance


Sure, it's all fake and was all debunked. 34 indictments from the Mueller investigation say otherwise. Your entire "debunking" consists of a.) an opinion piece and b.) a FISA technicality. Again, NONE of which actually substantively affects the content of anything.

"Lord, woman" yourself.



The Trump fans are delusional. They believe anything that orange fat grifter tells them.


Clinton paid for the Dossier.
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2022 08:10     Subject: Re:Barr and Durham

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There are emails to back Durham’s statements up


Durham’s statement is stupid. The FBI knew he worked for the DNC.


The text message he revealed in Monday's filing said this to General Counsel for the FBI James Baker:

"Jim—it’s Michael Sussmann. I have something time-sensitive (and sensitive) I need to discuss. Do you have availability for a short meeting tomorrow? I’m coming on my own—not on behalf of a client or company—want to help the Bureau. Thanks."

This text was sent the day before he told Baker about "purported data and 'white papers' that allegedly demonstrated a covert communications channel" between the Trump Organization and Alfa Bank, which has ties to the Kremlin.

[b]So, he claimed to be representing himself. A lie.




The bolded is the crux of the issue.


Is a personal text message subject to those laws? Doubtful.


So we are no longer denying that Sussman lied, just debating if he can be held accountable?


What is the evidence that he was in fact there on behalf of a client? What client specifically?


He worked for Hillary Clinton. That's been established.


What is the evidence he was there on behalf of Hillary Clinton? He denies it. The burden is on Durham to prove it. So what's the evidence?


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10689769/John-Durham-releases-damning-text-message-proving-Clinton-lawyer-Michael-Sussman-lied-FBI.html?fr=operanews

There's a lot more as stated in this article.




The article just repeats Durham's allegations. Allegations are not evidence.


Jig is up. More will come out soon. Wait for it.


Translation: you got nothing. The trial is mid-May. Better hurry up with that evidence.


You're right. Nothing will probably happen with this crew.

However, it's not 'nothing'. The whole Trump/Russia collusion story was made up. So Sussman giving info to the FBI 'on his own behalf to help' (i.e. information laundering for Clinton) is a pretty big deal. None of it is true. The bank, the pee tape, the dossier. None of it. Sussman worked for Clinton. The odds he was going on his own behalf is laughable.


Actually, a lot of it was true. Go read the Mueller report.


I’m sorry. None of it is true



All has since been discredited. It’s all unraveled.


Do you not understand that the aforementioned document is the Senate Intelligence Committee report which was put together under Republican-led leadership?


DP.
Doesn't matter. It has all been discredited. More evidence has come to light.
Problem with Congressional committee investigations is that they usually amount to squat and often times, incorrect conclusions.


No, it hasn't. Not even the Steele Dossier was "all discredited." Around 75% of the dossier's content was independently corroborated as true. Another 15% or so was verified as generally true but with minor, nonsubstantive inaccuracies. Around 10% remains yet to be proven, but very little of the content was actually disproven, contrary to the right wing bleating about how it was completely false and completely debunked.

The only "more evidence has come to light" are a tiny handful of things like "Clinesmith lied on the FISA warrant" when Clinesmith didn't know Page was an informant - and even those findings don't actually substantively debunk or affect any of the findings.


My Lord, woman. Wishing it so will not make the dossier a legitimate thing.

The only reason any of it was true was because the dossier was compiled using open source information..... stuff that was already out in the press.

The Steele report reads like a pile of rumors surrounded by public information pulled off the Internet, and the Horowitz report does nothing to dispel this notion.
At the time the FBI submitted its first FISA application, Horowitz writes, it had “corroborated limited information in Steele’s election reporting, and most of that was publicly available information.” Horowitz says of Steele’s reports: “The CIA viewed it as ‘internet rumor.’”

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/political-commentary/horowitz-report-steele-dossier-collusion-news-media-924944/

And, there has been a whole bunch of other information that has come out regarding the FISA warrants. A lot.

The dossier, compiled by former British spy Christopher Steele for political opposition research firm Fusion GPS, which was hired by the Clinton campaign and Democratic party, was “central and essential” to the FBI’s Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) application to spy on Trump campaign aide Carter Page. However, the IG report noted that the application contained numerous errors and omission. The newly-declassified footnotes show that the FBI was aware of significant problems with dossier’s sources while seeking or renewing the spying authority, yet they continued to push forward, failing to update the FISA court with the critical exculpatory information.

For example, footnote 350 indicates that the FBI received a U.S. intelligence report on January 12, 2017, warning of an inaccuracy in the dossier related to Michael Cohen, and assessing that the material was “part of a Russian disinformation campaign to denigrate U.S. foreign relations.”

That same day, the FISA warrant against Page was renewed for the first time.

A similar U.S. intelligence report arrived on February 28, 2017, undercutting a key allegation against Trump, noting the claims “were false, and that they were the product of RIS “infiltrat[ing] a source into the network” of sources that contributed to the dossier.

Just over a month later, the FISA warrant was renewed a second time.

According to footnote 342, in early June of 2017, after Special Counsel Mueller had taken over the investigation, investigators learned that Russian intelligence was aware of Steele’s opposition research work in early July of 2016, before the FBI began its investigation.

On June 27, 2017, the FISA warrant was renewed a third time.


https://www.grassley.senate.gov/news/news-releases/ig-footnotes-serious-problems-dossier-sources-didn-t-stop-fbi-s-page-surveillance


Sure, it's all fake and was all debunked. 34 indictments from the Mueller investigation say otherwise. Your entire "debunking" consists of a.) an opinion piece and b.) a FISA technicality. Again, NONE of which actually substantively affects the content of anything.

"Lord, woman" yourself.


The same people who let criminals go on light sentences? You are living in the past
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2022 08:08     Subject: Re:Barr and Durham

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There are emails to back Durham’s statements up


Durham’s statement is stupid. The FBI knew he worked for the DNC.


The text message he revealed in Monday's filing said this to General Counsel for the FBI James Baker:

"Jim—it’s Michael Sussmann. I have something time-sensitive (and sensitive) I need to discuss. Do you have availability for a short meeting tomorrow? I’m coming on my own—not on behalf of a client or company—want to help the Bureau. Thanks."

This text was sent the day before he told Baker about "purported data and 'white papers' that allegedly demonstrated a covert communications channel" between the Trump Organization and Alfa Bank, which has ties to the Kremlin.

[b]So, he claimed to be representing himself. A lie.




The bolded is the crux of the issue.


Is a personal text message subject to those laws? Doubtful.


So we are no longer denying that Sussman lied, just debating if he can be held accountable?


What is the evidence that he was in fact there on behalf of a client? What client specifically?


He worked for Hillary Clinton. That's been established.


What is the evidence he was there on behalf of Hillary Clinton? He denies it. The burden is on Durham to prove it. So what's the evidence?


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10689769/John-Durham-releases-damning-text-message-proving-Clinton-lawyer-Michael-Sussman-lied-FBI.html?fr=operanews

There's a lot more as stated in this article.




The article just repeats Durham's allegations. Allegations are not evidence.


Jig is up. More will come out soon. Wait for it.


Translation: you got nothing. The trial is mid-May. Better hurry up with that evidence.


You're right. Nothing will probably happen with this crew.

However, it's not 'nothing'. The whole Trump/Russia collusion story was made up. So Sussman giving info to the FBI 'on his own behalf to help' (i.e. information laundering for Clinton) is a pretty big deal. None of it is true. The bank, the pee tape, the dossier. None of it. Sussman worked for Clinton. The odds he was going on his own behalf is laughable.


Actually, a lot of it was true. Go read the Mueller report.


I’m sorry. None of it is true



All has since been discredited. It’s all unraveled.


Do you not understand that the aforementioned document is the Senate Intelligence Committee report which was put together under Republican-led leadership?


It doesn’t matter. Recent findings do
Anonymous
Post 04/06/2022 19:33     Subject: Re:Barr and Durham

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There are emails to back Durham’s statements up


Durham’s statement is stupid. The FBI knew he worked for the DNC.


The text message he revealed in Monday's filing said this to General Counsel for the FBI James Baker:

"Jim—it’s Michael Sussmann. I have something time-sensitive (and sensitive) I need to discuss. Do you have availability for a short meeting tomorrow? I’m coming on my own—not on behalf of a client or company—want to help the Bureau. Thanks."

This text was sent the day before he told Baker about "purported data and 'white papers' that allegedly demonstrated a covert communications channel" between the Trump Organization and Alfa Bank, which has ties to the Kremlin.

[b]So, he claimed to be representing himself. A lie.




The bolded is the crux of the issue.


Is a personal text message subject to those laws? Doubtful.


So we are no longer denying that Sussman lied, just debating if he can be held accountable?


What is the evidence that he was in fact there on behalf of a client? What client specifically?


He worked for Hillary Clinton. That's been established.


What is the evidence he was there on behalf of Hillary Clinton? He denies it. The burden is on Durham to prove it. So what's the evidence?


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10689769/John-Durham-releases-damning-text-message-proving-Clinton-lawyer-Michael-Sussman-lied-FBI.html?fr=operanews

There's a lot more as stated in this article.




The article just repeats Durham's allegations. Allegations are not evidence.


Jig is up. More will come out soon. Wait for it.


Translation: you got nothing. The trial is mid-May. Better hurry up with that evidence.


You're right. Nothing will probably happen with this crew.

However, it's not 'nothing'. The whole Trump/Russia collusion story was made up. So Sussman giving info to the FBI 'on his own behalf to help' (i.e. information laundering for Clinton) is a pretty big deal. None of it is true. The bank, the pee tape, the dossier. None of it. Sussman worked for Clinton. The odds he was going on his own behalf is laughable.


Actually, a lot of it was true. Go read the Mueller report.


I’m sorry. None of it is true



All has since been discredited. It’s all unraveled.


Do you not understand that the aforementioned document is the Senate Intelligence Committee report which was put together under Republican-led leadership?


DP.
Doesn't matter. It has all been discredited. More evidence has come to light.
Problem with Congressional committee investigations is that they usually amount to squat and often times, incorrect conclusions.


No, it hasn't. Not even the Steele Dossier was "all discredited." Around 75% of the dossier's content was independently corroborated as true. Another 15% or so was verified as generally true but with minor, nonsubstantive inaccuracies. Around 10% remains yet to be proven, but very little of the content was actually disproven, contrary to the right wing bleating about how it was completely false and completely debunked.

The only "more evidence has come to light" are a tiny handful of things like "Clinesmith lied on the FISA warrant" when Clinesmith didn't know Page was an informant - and even those findings don't actually substantively debunk or affect any of the findings.


My Lord, woman. Wishing it so will not make the dossier a legitimate thing.

The only reason any of it was true was because the dossier was compiled using open source information..... stuff that was already out in the press.

The Steele report reads like a pile of rumors surrounded by public information pulled off the Internet, and the Horowitz report does nothing to dispel this notion.
At the time the FBI submitted its first FISA application, Horowitz writes, it had “corroborated limited information in Steele’s election reporting, and most of that was publicly available information.” Horowitz says of Steele’s reports: “The CIA viewed it as ‘internet rumor.’”

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/political-commentary/horowitz-report-steele-dossier-collusion-news-media-924944/

And, there has been a whole bunch of other information that has come out regarding the FISA warrants. A lot.

The dossier, compiled by former British spy Christopher Steele for political opposition research firm Fusion GPS, which was hired by the Clinton campaign and Democratic party, was “central and essential” to the FBI’s Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) application to spy on Trump campaign aide Carter Page. However, the IG report noted that the application contained numerous errors and omission. The newly-declassified footnotes show that the FBI was aware of significant problems with dossier’s sources while seeking or renewing the spying authority, yet they continued to push forward, failing to update the FISA court with the critical exculpatory information.

For example, footnote 350 indicates that the FBI received a U.S. intelligence report on January 12, 2017, warning of an inaccuracy in the dossier related to Michael Cohen, and assessing that the material was “part of a Russian disinformation campaign to denigrate U.S. foreign relations.”

That same day, the FISA warrant against Page was renewed for the first time.

A similar U.S. intelligence report arrived on February 28, 2017, undercutting a key allegation against Trump, noting the claims “were false, and that they were the product of RIS “infiltrat[ing] a source into the network” of sources that contributed to the dossier.

Just over a month later, the FISA warrant was renewed a second time.

According to footnote 342, in early June of 2017, after Special Counsel Mueller had taken over the investigation, investigators learned that Russian intelligence was aware of Steele’s opposition research work in early July of 2016, before the FBI began its investigation.

On June 27, 2017, the FISA warrant was renewed a third time.


https://www.grassley.senate.gov/news/news-releases/ig-footnotes-serious-problems-dossier-sources-didn-t-stop-fbi-s-page-surveillance


Sure, it's all fake and was all debunked. 34 indictments from the Mueller investigation say otherwise. Your entire "debunking" consists of a.) an opinion piece and b.) a FISA technicality. Again, NONE of which actually substantively affects the content of anything.

"Lord, woman" yourself.



The Trump fans are delusional. They believe anything that orange fat grifter tells them.
Anonymous
Post 04/06/2022 18:53     Subject: Re:Barr and Durham

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There are emails to back Durham’s statements up


Durham’s statement is stupid. The FBI knew he worked for the DNC.


The text message he revealed in Monday's filing said this to General Counsel for the FBI James Baker:

"Jim—it’s Michael Sussmann. I have something time-sensitive (and sensitive) I need to discuss. Do you have availability for a short meeting tomorrow? I’m coming on my own—not on behalf of a client or company—want to help the Bureau. Thanks."

This text was sent the day before he told Baker about "purported data and 'white papers' that allegedly demonstrated a covert communications channel" between the Trump Organization and Alfa Bank, which has ties to the Kremlin.

[b]So, he claimed to be representing himself. A lie.




The bolded is the crux of the issue.


Is a personal text message subject to those laws? Doubtful.


So we are no longer denying that Sussman lied, just debating if he can be held accountable?


What is the evidence that he was in fact there on behalf of a client? What client specifically?


He worked for Hillary Clinton. That's been established.


What is the evidence he was there on behalf of Hillary Clinton? He denies it. The burden is on Durham to prove it. So what's the evidence?


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10689769/John-Durham-releases-damning-text-message-proving-Clinton-lawyer-Michael-Sussman-lied-FBI.html?fr=operanews

There's a lot more as stated in this article.




The article just repeats Durham's allegations. Allegations are not evidence.


Jig is up. More will come out soon. Wait for it.


Translation: you got nothing. The trial is mid-May. Better hurry up with that evidence.


You're right. Nothing will probably happen with this crew.

However, it's not 'nothing'. The whole Trump/Russia collusion story was made up. So Sussman giving info to the FBI 'on his own behalf to help' (i.e. information laundering for Clinton) is a pretty big deal. None of it is true. The bank, the pee tape, the dossier. None of it. Sussman worked for Clinton. The odds he was going on his own behalf is laughable.


Actually, a lot of it was true. Go read the Mueller report.


I’m sorry. None of it is true



All has since been discredited. It’s all unraveled.


Do you not understand that the aforementioned document is the Senate Intelligence Committee report which was put together under Republican-led leadership?


DP.
Doesn't matter. It has all been discredited. More evidence has come to light.
Problem with Congressional committee investigations is that they usually amount to squat and often times, incorrect conclusions.


No, it hasn't. Not even the Steele Dossier was "all discredited." Around 75% of the dossier's content was independently corroborated as true. Another 15% or so was verified as generally true but with minor, nonsubstantive inaccuracies. Around 10% remains yet to be proven, but very little of the content was actually disproven, contrary to the right wing bleating about how it was completely false and completely debunked.

The only "more evidence has come to light" are a tiny handful of things like "Clinesmith lied on the FISA warrant" when Clinesmith didn't know Page was an informant - and even those findings don't actually substantively debunk or affect any of the findings.


My Lord, woman. Wishing it so will not make the dossier a legitimate thing.

The only reason any of it was true was because the dossier was compiled using open source information..... stuff that was already out in the press.

The Steele report reads like a pile of rumors surrounded by public information pulled off the Internet, and the Horowitz report does nothing to dispel this notion.
At the time the FBI submitted its first FISA application, Horowitz writes, it had “corroborated limited information in Steele’s election reporting, and most of that was publicly available information.” Horowitz says of Steele’s reports: “The CIA viewed it as ‘internet rumor.’”

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/political-commentary/horowitz-report-steele-dossier-collusion-news-media-924944/

And, there has been a whole bunch of other information that has come out regarding the FISA warrants. A lot.

The dossier, compiled by former British spy Christopher Steele for political opposition research firm Fusion GPS, which was hired by the Clinton campaign and Democratic party, was “central and essential” to the FBI’s Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) application to spy on Trump campaign aide Carter Page. However, the IG report noted that the application contained numerous errors and omission. The newly-declassified footnotes show that the FBI was aware of significant problems with dossier’s sources while seeking or renewing the spying authority, yet they continued to push forward, failing to update the FISA court with the critical exculpatory information.

For example, footnote 350 indicates that the FBI received a U.S. intelligence report on January 12, 2017, warning of an inaccuracy in the dossier related to Michael Cohen, and assessing that the material was “part of a Russian disinformation campaign to denigrate U.S. foreign relations.”

That same day, the FISA warrant against Page was renewed for the first time.

A similar U.S. intelligence report arrived on February 28, 2017, undercutting a key allegation against Trump, noting the claims “were false, and that they were the product of RIS “infiltrat[ing] a source into the network” of sources that contributed to the dossier.

Just over a month later, the FISA warrant was renewed a second time.

According to footnote 342, in early June of 2017, after Special Counsel Mueller had taken over the investigation, investigators learned that Russian intelligence was aware of Steele’s opposition research work in early July of 2016, before the FBI began its investigation.

On June 27, 2017, the FISA warrant was renewed a third time.


https://www.grassley.senate.gov/news/news-releases/ig-footnotes-serious-problems-dossier-sources-didn-t-stop-fbi-s-page-surveillance


Sure, it's all fake and was all debunked. 34 indictments from the Mueller investigation say otherwise. Your entire "debunking" consists of a.) an opinion piece and b.) a FISA technicality. Again, NONE of which actually substantively affects the content of anything.

"Lord, woman" yourself.
Anonymous
Post 04/06/2022 18:12     Subject: Re:Barr and Durham

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There are emails to back Durham’s statements up


Durham’s statement is stupid. The FBI knew he worked for the DNC.


The text message he revealed in Monday's filing said this to General Counsel for the FBI James Baker:

"Jim—it’s Michael Sussmann. I have something time-sensitive (and sensitive) I need to discuss. Do you have availability for a short meeting tomorrow? I’m coming on my own—not on behalf of a client or company—want to help the Bureau. Thanks."

This text was sent the day before he told Baker about "purported data and 'white papers' that allegedly demonstrated a covert communications channel" between the Trump Organization and Alfa Bank, which has ties to the Kremlin.

[b]So, he claimed to be representing himself. A lie.




The bolded is the crux of the issue.


Is a personal text message subject to those laws? Doubtful.


So we are no longer denying that Sussman lied, just debating if he can be held accountable?


What is the evidence that he was in fact there on behalf of a client? What client specifically?


He worked for Hillary Clinton. That's been established.


What is the evidence he was there on behalf of Hillary Clinton? He denies it. The burden is on Durham to prove it. So what's the evidence?


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10689769/John-Durham-releases-damning-text-message-proving-Clinton-lawyer-Michael-Sussman-lied-FBI.html?fr=operanews

There's a lot more as stated in this article.




The article just repeats Durham's allegations. Allegations are not evidence.


Jig is up. More will come out soon. Wait for it.


Translation: you got nothing. The trial is mid-May. Better hurry up with that evidence.


You're right. Nothing will probably happen with this crew.

However, it's not 'nothing'. The whole Trump/Russia collusion story was made up. So Sussman giving info to the FBI 'on his own behalf to help' (i.e. information laundering for Clinton) is a pretty big deal. None of it is true. The bank, the pee tape, the dossier. None of it. Sussman worked for Clinton. The odds he was going on his own behalf is laughable.


Actually, a lot of it was true. Go read the Mueller report.


I’m sorry. None of it is true



All has since been discredited. It’s all unraveled.


Do you not understand that the aforementioned document is the Senate Intelligence Committee report which was put together under Republican-led leadership?


DP.
Doesn't matter. It has all been discredited. More evidence has come to light.
Problem with Congressional committee investigations is that they usually amount to squat and often times, incorrect conclusions.


Translation: nah nah nah nah I can’t hear you!
Anonymous
Post 04/06/2022 17:39     Subject: Re:Barr and Durham

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There are emails to back Durham’s statements up


Durham’s statement is stupid. The FBI knew he worked for the DNC.


The text message he revealed in Monday's filing said this to General Counsel for the FBI James Baker:

"Jim—it’s Michael Sussmann. I have something time-sensitive (and sensitive) I need to discuss. Do you have availability for a short meeting tomorrow? I’m coming on my own—not on behalf of a client or company—want to help the Bureau. Thanks."

This text was sent the day before he told Baker about "purported data and 'white papers' that allegedly demonstrated a covert communications channel" between the Trump Organization and Alfa Bank, which has ties to the Kremlin.

[b]So, he claimed to be representing himself. A lie.




The bolded is the crux of the issue.


Is a personal text message subject to those laws? Doubtful.


So we are no longer denying that Sussman lied, just debating if he can be held accountable?


What is the evidence that he was in fact there on behalf of a client? What client specifically?


He worked for Hillary Clinton. That's been established.


What is the evidence he was there on behalf of Hillary Clinton? He denies it. The burden is on Durham to prove it. So what's the evidence?


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10689769/John-Durham-releases-damning-text-message-proving-Clinton-lawyer-Michael-Sussman-lied-FBI.html?fr=operanews

There's a lot more as stated in this article.




The article just repeats Durham's allegations. Allegations are not evidence.


Jig is up. More will come out soon. Wait for it.


Translation: you got nothing. The trial is mid-May. Better hurry up with that evidence.


You're right. Nothing will probably happen with this crew.

However, it's not 'nothing'. The whole Trump/Russia collusion story was made up. So Sussman giving info to the FBI 'on his own behalf to help' (i.e. information laundering for Clinton) is a pretty big deal. None of it is true. The bank, the pee tape, the dossier. None of it. Sussman worked for Clinton. The odds he was going on his own behalf is laughable.


Actually, a lot of it was true. Go read the Mueller report.


I’m sorry. None of it is true



All has since been discredited. It’s all unraveled.


Do you not understand that the aforementioned document is the Senate Intelligence Committee report which was put together under Republican-led leadership?


DP.
Doesn't matter. It has all been discredited. More evidence has come to light.
Problem with Congressional committee investigations is that they usually amount to squat and often times, incorrect conclusions.


No, it hasn't. Not even the Steele Dossier was "all discredited." Around 75% of the dossier's content was independently corroborated as true. Another 15% or so was verified as generally true but with minor, nonsubstantive inaccuracies. Around 10% remains yet to be proven, but very little of the content was actually disproven, contrary to the right wing bleating about how it was completely false and completely debunked.

The only "more evidence has come to light" are a tiny handful of things like "Clinesmith lied on the FISA warrant" when Clinesmith didn't know Page was an informant - and even those findings don't actually substantively debunk or affect any of the findings.


My Lord, woman. Wishing it so will not make the dossier a legitimate thing.

The only reason any of it was true was because the dossier was compiled using open source information..... stuff that was already out in the press.

The Steele report reads like a pile of rumors surrounded by public information pulled off the Internet, and the Horowitz report does nothing to dispel this notion.
At the time the FBI submitted its first FISA application, Horowitz writes, it had “corroborated limited information in Steele’s election reporting, and most of that was publicly available information.” Horowitz says of Steele’s reports: “The CIA viewed it as ‘internet rumor.’”

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/political-commentary/horowitz-report-steele-dossier-collusion-news-media-924944/

And, there has been a whole bunch of other information that has come out regarding the FISA warrants. A lot.

The dossier, compiled by former British spy Christopher Steele for political opposition research firm Fusion GPS, which was hired by the Clinton campaign and Democratic party, was “central and essential” to the FBI’s Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) application to spy on Trump campaign aide Carter Page. However, the IG report noted that the application contained numerous errors and omission. The newly-declassified footnotes show that the FBI was aware of significant problems with dossier’s sources while seeking or renewing the spying authority, yet they continued to push forward, failing to update the FISA court with the critical exculpatory information.

For example, footnote 350 indicates that the FBI received a U.S. intelligence report on January 12, 2017, warning of an inaccuracy in the dossier related to Michael Cohen, and assessing that the material was “part of a Russian disinformation campaign to denigrate U.S. foreign relations.”

That same day, the FISA warrant against Page was renewed for the first time.

A similar U.S. intelligence report arrived on February 28, 2017, undercutting a key allegation against Trump, noting the claims “were false, and that they were the product of RIS “infiltrat[ing] a source into the network” of sources that contributed to the dossier.

Just over a month later, the FISA warrant was renewed a second time.

According to footnote 342, in early June of 2017, after Special Counsel Mueller had taken over the investigation, investigators learned that Russian intelligence was aware of Steele’s opposition research work in early July of 2016, before the FBI began its investigation.

On June 27, 2017, the FISA warrant was renewed a third time.


https://www.grassley.senate.gov/news/news-releases/ig-footnotes-serious-problems-dossier-sources-didn-t-stop-fbi-s-page-surveillance
Anonymous
Post 04/06/2022 17:28     Subject: Re:Barr and Durham

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There are emails to back Durham’s statements up


Durham’s statement is stupid. The FBI knew he worked for the DNC.


The text message he revealed in Monday's filing said this to General Counsel for the FBI James Baker:

"Jim—it’s Michael Sussmann. I have something time-sensitive (and sensitive) I need to discuss. Do you have availability for a short meeting tomorrow? I’m coming on my own—not on behalf of a client or company—want to help the Bureau. Thanks."

This text was sent the day before he told Baker about "purported data and 'white papers' that allegedly demonstrated a covert communications channel" between the Trump Organization and Alfa Bank, which has ties to the Kremlin.

[b]So, he claimed to be representing himself. A lie.




The bolded is the crux of the issue.


Is a personal text message subject to those laws? Doubtful.


So we are no longer denying that Sussman lied, just debating if he can be held accountable?


What is the evidence that he was in fact there on behalf of a client? What client specifically?


He worked for Hillary Clinton. That's been established.


What is the evidence he was there on behalf of Hillary Clinton? He denies it. The burden is on Durham to prove it. So what's the evidence?


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10689769/John-Durham-releases-damning-text-message-proving-Clinton-lawyer-Michael-Sussman-lied-FBI.html?fr=operanews

There's a lot more as stated in this article.




The article just repeats Durham's allegations. Allegations are not evidence.


Jig is up. More will come out soon. Wait for it.


Translation: you got nothing. The trial is mid-May. Better hurry up with that evidence.


You're right. Nothing will probably happen with this crew.

However, it's not 'nothing'. The whole Trump/Russia collusion story was made up. So Sussman giving info to the FBI 'on his own behalf to help' (i.e. information laundering for Clinton) is a pretty big deal. None of it is true. The bank, the pee tape, the dossier. None of it. Sussman worked for Clinton. The odds he was going on his own behalf is laughable.


Actually, a lot of it was true. Go read the Mueller report.


I’m sorry. None of it is true



All has since been discredited. It’s all unraveled.


Do you not understand that the aforementioned document is the Senate Intelligence Committee report which was put together under Republican-led leadership?


DP.
Doesn't matter. It has all been discredited. More evidence has come to light.
Problem with Congressional committee investigations is that they usually amount to squat and often times, incorrect conclusions.


No, it hasn't. Not even the Steele Dossier was "all discredited." Around 75% of the dossier's content was independently corroborated as true. Another 15% or so was verified as generally true but with minor, nonsubstantive inaccuracies. Around 10% remains yet to be proven, but very little of the content was actually disproven, contrary to the right wing bleating about how it was completely false and completely debunked.

The only "more evidence has come to light" are a tiny handful of things like "Clinesmith lied on the FISA warrant" when Clinesmith didn't know Page was an informant - and even those findings don't actually substantively debunk or affect any of the findings.
Anonymous
Post 04/06/2022 17:17     Subject: Re:Barr and Durham

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There are emails to back Durham’s statements up


Durham’s statement is stupid. The FBI knew he worked for the DNC.


The text message he revealed in Monday's filing said this to General Counsel for the FBI James Baker:

"Jim—it’s Michael Sussmann. I have something time-sensitive (and sensitive) I need to discuss. Do you have availability for a short meeting tomorrow? I’m coming on my own—not on behalf of a client or company—want to help the Bureau. Thanks."

This text was sent the day before he told Baker about "purported data and 'white papers' that allegedly demonstrated a covert communications channel" between the Trump Organization and Alfa Bank, which has ties to the Kremlin.

[b]So, he claimed to be representing himself. A lie.




The bolded is the crux of the issue.


Is a personal text message subject to those laws? Doubtful.


So we are no longer denying that Sussman lied, just debating if he can be held accountable?


What is the evidence that he was in fact there on behalf of a client? What client specifically?


He worked for Hillary Clinton. That's been established.


What is the evidence he was there on behalf of Hillary Clinton? He denies it. The burden is on Durham to prove it. So what's the evidence?


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10689769/John-Durham-releases-damning-text-message-proving-Clinton-lawyer-Michael-Sussman-lied-FBI.html?fr=operanews

There's a lot more as stated in this article.




The article just repeats Durham's allegations. Allegations are not evidence.


Jig is up. More will come out soon. Wait for it.


Translation: you got nothing. The trial is mid-May. Better hurry up with that evidence.


You're right. Nothing will probably happen with this crew.

However, it's not 'nothing'. The whole Trump/Russia collusion story was made up. So Sussman giving info to the FBI 'on his own behalf to help' (i.e. information laundering for Clinton) is a pretty big deal. None of it is true. The bank, the pee tape, the dossier. None of it. Sussman worked for Clinton. The odds he was going on his own behalf is laughable.


Actually, a lot of it was true. Go read the Mueller report.


I’m sorry. None of it is true



All has since been discredited. It’s all unraveled.


Do you not understand that the aforementioned document is the Senate Intelligence Committee report which was put together under Republican-led leadership?


DP.
Doesn't matter. It has all been discredited. More evidence has come to light.
Problem with Congressional committee investigations is that they usually amount to squat and often times, incorrect conclusions.
Anonymous
Post 04/06/2022 17:03     Subject: Re:Barr and Durham

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There are emails to back Durham’s statements up


Durham’s statement is stupid. The FBI knew he worked for the DNC.


The text message he revealed in Monday's filing said this to General Counsel for the FBI James Baker:

"Jim—it’s Michael Sussmann. I have something time-sensitive (and sensitive) I need to discuss. Do you have availability for a short meeting tomorrow? I’m coming on my own—not on behalf of a client or company—want to help the Bureau. Thanks."

This text was sent the day before he told Baker about "purported data and 'white papers' that allegedly demonstrated a covert communications channel" between the Trump Organization and Alfa Bank, which has ties to the Kremlin.

[b]So, he claimed to be representing himself. A lie.




The bolded is the crux of the issue.


Is a personal text message subject to those laws? Doubtful.


So we are no longer denying that Sussman lied, just debating if he can be held accountable?


What is the evidence that he was in fact there on behalf of a client? What client specifically?


He worked for Hillary Clinton. That's been established.


What is the evidence he was there on behalf of Hillary Clinton? He denies it. The burden is on Durham to prove it. So what's the evidence?


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10689769/John-Durham-releases-damning-text-message-proving-Clinton-lawyer-Michael-Sussman-lied-FBI.html?fr=operanews

There's a lot more as stated in this article.




The article just repeats Durham's allegations. Allegations are not evidence.


Jig is up. More will come out soon. Wait for it.


Translation: you got nothing. The trial is mid-May. Better hurry up with that evidence.


You're right. Nothing will probably happen with this crew.

However, it's not 'nothing'. The whole Trump/Russia collusion story was made up. So Sussman giving info to the FBI 'on his own behalf to help' (i.e. information laundering for Clinton) is a pretty big deal. None of it is true. The bank, the pee tape, the dossier. None of it. Sussman worked for Clinton. The odds he was going on his own behalf is laughable.


Actually, a lot of it was true. Go read the Mueller report.


I’m sorry. None of it is true



All has since been discredited. It’s all unraveled.


Do you not understand that the aforementioned document is the Senate Intelligence Committee report which was put together under Republican-led leadership?
Anonymous
Post 04/06/2022 16:50     Subject: Re:Barr and Durham

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There are emails to back Durham’s statements up


Durham’s statement is stupid. The FBI knew he worked for the DNC.


The text message he revealed in Monday's filing said this to General Counsel for the FBI James Baker:

"Jim—it’s Michael Sussmann. I have something time-sensitive (and sensitive) I need to discuss. Do you have availability for a short meeting tomorrow? I’m coming on my own—not on behalf of a client or company—want to help the Bureau. Thanks."

This text was sent the day before he told Baker about "purported data and 'white papers' that allegedly demonstrated a covert communications channel" between the Trump Organization and Alfa Bank, which has ties to the Kremlin.

[b]So, he claimed to be representing himself. A lie.




The bolded is the crux of the issue.


Is a personal text message subject to those laws? Doubtful.


So we are no longer denying that Sussman lied, just debating if he can be held accountable?


What is the evidence that he was in fact there on behalf of a client? What client specifically?


He worked for Hillary Clinton. That's been established.


What is the evidence he was there on behalf of Hillary Clinton? He denies it. The burden is on Durham to prove it. So what's the evidence?


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10689769/John-Durham-releases-damning-text-message-proving-Clinton-lawyer-Michael-Sussman-lied-FBI.html?fr=operanews

There's a lot more as stated in this article.




The article just repeats Durham's allegations. Allegations are not evidence.


Jig is up. More will come out soon. Wait for it.


Translation: you got nothing. The trial is mid-May. Better hurry up with that evidence.


You're right. Nothing will probably happen with this crew.

However, it's not 'nothing'. The whole Trump/Russia collusion story was made up. So Sussman giving info to the FBI 'on his own behalf to help' (i.e. information laundering for Clinton) is a pretty big deal. None of it is true. The bank, the pee tape, the dossier. None of it. Sussman worked for Clinton. The odds he was going on his own behalf is laughable.


Actually, a lot of it was true. Go read the Mueller report.


I’m sorry. None of it is true



All has since been discredited. It’s all unraveled.
Anonymous
Post 04/06/2022 16:48     Subject: Re:Barr and Durham

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There are emails to back Durham’s statements up


Durham’s statement is stupid. The FBI knew he worked for the DNC.


The text message he revealed in Monday's filing said this to General Counsel for the FBI James Baker:

"Jim—it’s Michael Sussmann. I have something time-sensitive (and sensitive) I need to discuss. Do you have availability for a short meeting tomorrow? I’m coming on my own—not on behalf of a client or company—want to help the Bureau. Thanks."

This text was sent the day before he told Baker about "purported data and 'white papers' that allegedly demonstrated a covert communications channel" between the Trump Organization and Alfa Bank, which has ties to the Kremlin.

[b]So, he claimed to be representing himself. A lie.




The bolded is the crux of the issue.


Is a personal text message subject to those laws? Doubtful.


So we are no longer denying that Sussman lied, just debating if he can be held accountable?


What is the evidence that he was in fact there on behalf of a client? What client specifically?


He worked for Hillary Clinton. That's been established.


What is the evidence he was there on behalf of Hillary Clinton? He denies it. The burden is on Durham to prove it. So what's the evidence?


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10689769/John-Durham-releases-damning-text-message-proving-Clinton-lawyer-Michael-Sussman-lied-FBI.html?fr=operanews

There's a lot more as stated in this article.




The article just repeats Durham's allegations. Allegations are not evidence.


Jig is up. More will come out soon. Wait for it.


Translation: you got nothing. The trial is mid-May. Better hurry up with that evidence.


You're right. Nothing will probably happen with this crew.

However, it's not 'nothing'. The whole Trump/Russia collusion story was made up. So Sussman giving info to the FBI 'on his own behalf to help' (i.e. information laundering for Clinton) is a pretty big deal. None of it is true. The bank, the pee tape, the dossier. None of it. Sussman worked for Clinton. The odds he was going on his own behalf is laughable.


Actually, a lot of it was true. Go read the Mueller report.


I’m sorry. None of it is true



Note the word ‘likely’. That’s a weasel word. Meanwhile, this was Sussman’s TESTIMONY under oath:

The prosecutor noted that in House testimony a year later Sussmann admitted he made the FBI approach at the instruction of his client.

"We had a conversation, as lawyers do with their clients, about client 1 needs and objectives and the best course to take for a client," Sussmann testified in a deposition taken by then-House Intelligence Committee Republican investigative counsel Kash Patel. "And so it may have been a decision that we came to together. I mean, I don't want to imply that I was sort of directed to do something against my better judgment, or that we were in any sort of conflict."

The “likely” was subsequently confirmed by the Treasury Department a year ago.

https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-paul-manafort-russia-campaigns-konstantin-kilimnik-d2fdefdb37077e28eba135e21fce6ebf


That says nothing about the 'likely' and Manafort.
Anonymous
Post 04/06/2022 15:23     Subject: Re:Barr and Durham

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There are emails to back Durham’s statements up


Durham’s statement is stupid. The FBI knew he worked for the DNC.


The text message he revealed in Monday's filing said this to General Counsel for the FBI James Baker:

"Jim—it’s Michael Sussmann. I have something time-sensitive (and sensitive) I need to discuss. Do you have availability for a short meeting tomorrow? I’m coming on my own—not on behalf of a client or company—want to help the Bureau. Thanks."

This text was sent the day before he told Baker about "purported data and 'white papers' that allegedly demonstrated a covert communications channel" between the Trump Organization and Alfa Bank, which has ties to the Kremlin.

[b]So, he claimed to be representing himself. A lie.




The bolded is the crux of the issue.


Is a personal text message subject to those laws? Doubtful.


So we are no longer denying that Sussman lied, just debating if he can be held accountable?


What is the evidence that he was in fact there on behalf of a client? What client specifically?


He worked for Hillary Clinton. That's been established.


What is the evidence he was there on behalf of Hillary Clinton? He denies it. The burden is on Durham to prove it. So what's the evidence?


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10689769/John-Durham-releases-damning-text-message-proving-Clinton-lawyer-Michael-Sussman-lied-FBI.html?fr=operanews

There's a lot more as stated in this article.




The article just repeats Durham's allegations. Allegations are not evidence.


Jig is up. More will come out soon. Wait for it.


Translation: you got nothing. The trial is mid-May. Better hurry up with that evidence.


You're right. Nothing will probably happen with this crew.

However, it's not 'nothing'. The whole Trump/Russia collusion story was made up. So Sussman giving info to the FBI 'on his own behalf to help' (i.e. information laundering for Clinton) is a pretty big deal. None of it is true. The bank, the pee tape, the dossier. None of it. Sussman worked for Clinton. The odds he was going on his own behalf is laughable.


Actually, a lot of it was true. Go read the Mueller report.


I’m sorry. None of it is true



Note the word ‘likely’. That’s a weasel word. Meanwhile, this was Sussman’s TESTIMONY under oath:

The prosecutor noted that in House testimony a year later Sussmann admitted he made the FBI approach at the instruction of his client.

"We had a conversation, as lawyers do with their clients, about client 1 needs and objectives and the best course to take for a client," Sussmann testified in a deposition taken by then-House Intelligence Committee Republican investigative counsel Kash Patel. "And so it may have been a decision that we came to together. I mean, I don't want to imply that I was sort of directed to do something against my better judgment, or that we were in any sort of conflict."

The “likely” was subsequently confirmed by the Treasury Department a year ago.

https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-paul-manafort-russia-campaigns-konstantin-kilimnik-d2fdefdb37077e28eba135e21fce6ebf
Anonymous
Post 04/06/2022 15:21     Subject: Re:Barr and Durham

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There are emails to back Durham’s statements up


Durham’s statement is stupid. The FBI knew he worked for the DNC.


The text message he revealed in Monday's filing said this to General Counsel for the FBI James Baker:

"Jim—it’s Michael Sussmann. I have something time-sensitive (and sensitive) I need to discuss. Do you have availability for a short meeting tomorrow? I’m coming on my own—not on behalf of a client or company—want to help the Bureau. Thanks."

This text was sent the day before he told Baker about "purported data and 'white papers' that allegedly demonstrated a covert communications channel" between the Trump Organization and Alfa Bank, which has ties to the Kremlin.

[b]So, he claimed to be representing himself. A lie.




The bolded is the crux of the issue.


Is a personal text message subject to those laws? Doubtful.


So we are no longer denying that Sussman lied, just debating if he can be held accountable?


What is the evidence that he was in fact there on behalf of a client? What client specifically?


He worked for Hillary Clinton. That's been established.


What is the evidence he was there on behalf of Hillary Clinton? He denies it. The burden is on Durham to prove it. So what's the evidence?


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10689769/John-Durham-releases-damning-text-message-proving-Clinton-lawyer-Michael-Sussman-lied-FBI.html?fr=operanews

There's a lot more as stated in this article.




The article just repeats Durham's allegations. Allegations are not evidence.


Jig is up. More will come out soon. Wait for it.


Translation: you got nothing. The trial is mid-May. Better hurry up with that evidence.


You're right. Nothing will probably happen with this crew.

However, it's not 'nothing'. The whole Trump/Russia collusion story was made up. So Sussman giving info to the FBI 'on his own behalf to help' (i.e. information laundering for Clinton) is a pretty big deal. None of it is true. The bank, the pee tape, the dossier. None of it. Sussman worked for Clinton. The odds he was going on his own behalf is laughable.


Actually, a lot of it was true. Go read the Mueller report.


I’m sorry. None of it is true