I would assume the exposure will help. they are from the 2018, 2019, and 2020 classes. Teams they played were 2017s.

Anonymous wrote:***Trolls: Trying to pass along some news from the Google tubes, not start a debate.***

Wrapping up: At the Region 1 tournament VYS beat the number one and the number three teams in the State of New Jersey by a collective margin of 9-2, but lost 1-0 to the 6th ranked team in Region 1, so the Phoenix did not advance to today's "final four" round, which is dominated by teams from Pennsylvania. But finished second in the pool and performed well considering that they're all high-school kids while the teams they played consisted largely of rising D1 college players. Hank is to be congratulated, imho.

Congratulations for sure. Wondering if these players will start to receive offers. They should!

Exactly why aren't the kids on this Phoenix team themselves rising D1 players?

This sums up BYS mentality perfectly, "just happy to be here and we can never be good."

***Trolls: Trying to pass along some news from the Google tubes, not start a debate.***

Wrapping up: At the Region 1 tournament VYS beat the number one and the number three teams in the State of New Jersey by a collective margin of 9-2, but lost 1-0 to the 6th ranked team in Region 1, so the Phoenix did not advance to today's "final four" round, which is dominated by teams from Pennsylvania. But finished second in the pool and performed well considering that they're all high-school kids while the teams they played consisted largely of rising D1 college players. Hank is to be congratulated, imho.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The funny thing is that the person who said it was a major upset was probably taking a swipe at VYS (by suggesting that the other team was greatly superior). You VYS trolls are the best trolls, but you need to do a better job of interpreting each other's insults toward the club you left a long time ago but still use to give your lives a sense of purpose.

Fortunately, the sheer volume of clubs in this area gives us plenty of options to find a club toward which we can act out all our insecurities. It just means parents have to do their homework and take their kids to try out at multiple clubs before deciding, "Yes, this is the club I will scorn. Whenever things go badly, I will just go an anonymous message board and say mean things about them so I'll feel powerful."

Sports can teach us such valuable life lessons.

And yet nobody else at any other club feels that their club is so important or relevant that it just needs its own discussion thread.

You put the target on yourselves.

I don't know who started this thread, but it was started because a lot of people talk about VYS. I guess a lot of DCUM people live here.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The funny thing is that the person who said it was a major upset was probably taking a swipe at VYS (by suggesting that the other team was greatly superior). You VYS trolls are the best trolls, but you need to do a better job of interpreting each other's insults toward the club you left a long time ago but still use to give your lives a sense of purpose.

Fortunately, the sheer volume of clubs in this area gives us plenty of options to find a club toward which we can act out all our insecurities. It just means parents have to do their homework and take their kids to try out at multiple clubs before deciding, "Yes, this is the club I will scorn. Whenever things go badly, I will just go an anonymous message board and say mean things about them so I'll feel powerful."

Sports can teach us such valuable life lessons.

And yet nobody else at any other club feels that their club is so important or relevant that it just needs its own discussion thread.

You put the target on yourselves.

Anonymous wrote:The funny thing is that the person who said it was a major upset was probably taking a swipe at VYS (by suggesting that the other team was greatly superior). You VYS trolls are the best trolls, but you need to do a better job of interpreting each other's insults toward the club you left a long time ago but still use to give your lives a sense of purpose.

Fortunately, the sheer volume of clubs in this area gives us plenty of options to find a club toward which we can act out all our insecurities. It just means parents have to do their homework and take their kids to try out at multiple clubs before deciding, "Yes, this is the club I will scorn. Whenever things go badly, I will just go an anonymous message board and say mean things about them so I'll feel powerful."

Sports can teach us such valuable life lessons.

The funny thing is that the person who said it was a major upset was probably taking a swipe at VYS (by suggesting that the other team was greatly superior). You VYS trolls are the best trolls, but you need to do a better job of interpreting each other's insults toward the club you left a long time ago but still use to give your lives a sense of purpose.

^^

I was the one who dragged all the stats out and said it was a "minor" upset, based solely on regional rankings.

The above post is pretty spot on summary.

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Yes we can, just don't reply to a post by me and include an inference or quote from another post assuming that they are the same person. Reply to their quote instead.

There are more than a few people posting and not all the posts that you disagree with can be attributed to just one person.

I'm the one who responded directly to the "favored" post with stats that showed otherwise. See http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1095/533272.page#11152136

Then someone (possibly but maybe not you) said "Oh no, he was just saying it wasn't a major upset." See http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1095/533272.page#11152946

I responded by citing the original post to show that the "favored" post did indeed say "favored." See http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1095/533272.page#11153858

I don't who came in and said "I was saying minor upset," but whoever said it was incorrect. There was no previous post saying it was just a minor upset. There was the person who said "favored," and then there's the person who was trying to clarify what our "favored" poster was saying.

Multiple people accounted for the next several posts. People responding to me (the one who DIRECTLY QUOTED the "favored" post) said others weren't facing facts. It's quite fair to assume that the person talking about "facing facts" was referring to the U18 girls discussion.

Then you responded by saying, "No one said favored, or at least I didn't. I simply said it was a minor upset." Obviously, I responded to the person who did indeed say "favored."

In short: Could you take your own advice?

And then can we move on?

Yes, it was a minor upset. More importantly, it was a very good win against a traditional powerhouse that, when added to their other results, should show that Hank's team plays at a very high level. That shouldn't be in doubt. Nor, to put in all sides of the discussion, is Hank's U18 team necessarily a reflection of how well VYS's top teams are playing as a whole. I would simply argue it's an example of what's still *possible* in Vienna, even with ECNL and other elite leagues surrounding them like Cornwallis at Yorktown.

^^

Yes we can, just don't reply to a post by me and include an inference or quote from another post assuming that they are the same person. Reply to their quote instead.

There are more than a few people posting and not all the posts that you disagree with can be attributed to just one person.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The facts do hold up. They are actual records. They are real. You can disagree with what those results mean in regards to how it reflects upon VYS but that doesn't make the facts wrong.

Let's not move the goalposts. Saying VYS would be "favored" over PDA is the opposite of a fact.

Tournament records for U10s are a ridiculous metric unless everyone's playing the same strength of opposition and everyone has the same thoughts on the "development vs. winning" argument. They do not.

The VPL records are facts, and that's one reason I wonder if VYS would be better off outside VPL. When it has a good team (usually girls but occasionally boys), they can be D1 NCSL or maybe EDP along with challenging tournaments and perhaps even ERL. In age groups that get picked clean by Bethesda South, Braddock Road, McLean or VDA, play wherever they fit.

But the VDA alliance might make it politically difficult for VYS to pull out of VPL.

Nobody said "favored", or at least I didn't. I simply said it was a minor upset, not a major upset.

See http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1095/533272.page#11151793

If that wasn't you, fine, but can you at least see that someone did indeed say exactly that? If the rest of us are responding to someone else and not you, fine, but can we proceed with that knowledge?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The facts do hold up. They are actual records. They are real. You can disagree with what those results mean in regards to how it reflects upon VYS but that doesn't make the facts wrong.

Let's not move the goalposts. Saying VYS would be "favored" over PDA is the opposite of a fact.

Tournament records for U10s are a ridiculous metric unless everyone's playing the same strength of opposition and everyone has the same thoughts on the "development vs. winning" argument. They do not.

The VPL records are facts, and that's one reason I wonder if VYS would be better off outside VPL. When it has a good team (usually girls but occasionally boys), they can be D1 NCSL or maybe EDP along with challenging tournaments and perhaps even ERL. In age groups that get picked clean by Bethesda South, Braddock Road, McLean or VDA, play wherever they fit.

But the VDA alliance might make it politically difficult for VYS to pull out of VPL.

Nobody said "favored", or at least I didn't. I simply said it was a minor upset, not a major upset.

People are putting way too much emphasis on a minor ranking difference on what does not seem like a very reliable site. Whether you look at that one, or Gotsoccer or just the teams' history, it is clear they are at the same general level. It's not an upset for either to beat the other.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The facts do hold up. They are actual records. They are real. You can disagree with what those results mean in regards to how it reflects upon VYS but that doesn't make the facts wrong.

Let's not move the goalposts. Saying VYS would be "favored" over PDA is the opposite of a fact.

Tournament records for U10s are a ridiculous metric unless everyone's playing the same strength of opposition and everyone has the same thoughts on the "development vs. winning" argument. They do not.

The VPL records are facts, and that's one reason I wonder if VYS would be better off outside VPL. When it has a good team (usually girls but occasionally boys), they can be D1 NCSL or maybe EDP along with challenging tournaments and perhaps even ERL. In age groups that get picked clean by Bethesda South, Braddock Road, McLean or VDA, play wherever they fit.

But the VDA alliance might make it politically difficult for VYS to pull out of VPL.

Nobody said "favored", or at least I didn't. I simply said it was a minor upset, not a major upset.

Anonymous wrote:The facts do hold up. They are actual records. They are real. You can disagree with what those results mean in regards to how it reflects upon VYS but that doesn't make the facts wrong.

Let's not move the goalposts. Saying VYS would be "favored" over PDA is the opposite of a fact.

Tournament records for U10s are a ridiculous metric unless everyone's playing the same strength of opposition and everyone has the same thoughts on the "development vs. winning" argument. They do not.

The VPL records are facts, and that's one reason I wonder if VYS would be better off outside VPL. When it has a good team (usually girls but occasionally boys), they can be D1 NCSL or maybe EDP along with challenging tournaments and perhaps even ERL. In age groups that get picked clean by Bethesda South, Braddock Road, McLean or VDA, play wherever they fit.

But the VDA alliance might make it politically difficult for VYS to pull out of VPL.