the feds came on at the tail end of the process, mainly just to provide a little funding to help states with adoption.

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LMAO! What the hell do you think I am, the Common Core file drawer? Per their site, they received nearly 10,000 comments from teachers and stakeholders in public review periods. How about you contact them... and bring some wheelbarrows down to NGA and CSSO's offices to get copies. http://www.corestandards.org/about-the-standards/contact/

Other studies publish comments and feedback. 10,000 comments is probably only 100 pages. Why not publish it?

LMAO! Yeah, I've distanced myself from reality on the ground, where god forbid we have standards, god forbid we have testing, god forbid we have accountability, god forbid we should push kids to their potential, god forbid kids should ever fail at anything or have to try anything over when they didn't master it the first time around, and in fact, why don't we just go ahead and make schools glorified daycares already?

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Yeah, so states and school districts better start getting their shit together then. Dumping the standards still doesn't change the fact that it was the states and school districts that screwed the pooch, as opposed to it being a standards problem.



This is the kind of arrogance that is not endearing the states to the standards. With this kind of love and support, who would want to stay with the CC?


Ah, got you. We're all supposed to just shut up, roll over, play dead, and put up with grotesque mediocrity and dysfunction in our public school systems lest we come off as "arrogant."


Hey, you're the one whose kid is at a charter school. I'm the one who is working with "at risk" kids . . . hardly shutting up and playing dead on this stuff.

You have distanced yourself from the reality on the ground. You have a child at a charter and you sit in an office looking at "data". Try my life for a while and then I might give you and your data some credibility. OK?

LMAO! What the hell do you think I am, the Common Core file drawer? Per their site, they received nearly 10,000 comments from teachers and stakeholders in public review periods. How about you contact them... and bring some wheelbarrows down to NGA and CSSO's offices to get copies. http://www.corestandards.org/about-the-standards/contact/

Ah yes, Pearson, in collusion with the Alien Greys up in the Mothership

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the feds came on at the tail end of the process, mainly just to provide a little funding to help states with adoption. And that means

You mean they came in to fund PARCC---which was really running things from the beginning if you do any investigating.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

NEA, AFT and other organizations representing millions of teachers DID ask for input and did outreach. Seems to me that you didn't hear about it is your own problem.


No, they did not ask for input. They did not do "outreach" on this. That is really not the job of the unions.

Yes, they did ask for input and they got lots of input, too - and that's proven. They asked, regardless of whether it was their job to ask for it or not.

But I would contend that in fact it is part of their job as a union, to enhance and improve respect of teachers as a profession.

I belonged to the union when I taught I was never once asked for anything but money. FWIW, the union leaders at hq decided who the union would support in elections. They did not ask the members.

Oh, no... they didn't support the communist Kenyan muslin, did they?

If you're going to be sarcastic, you might consider spelling important words correctly.

Yeah, so states and school districts better start getting their shit together then. Dumping the standards still doesn't change the fact that it was the states and school districts that screwed the pooch, as opposed to it being a standards problem.



This is the kind of arrogance that is not endearing the states to the standards. With this kind of love and support, who would want to stay with the CC?


Ah, got you. We're all supposed to just shut up, roll over, play dead, and put up with grotesque mediocrity and dysfunction in our public school systems lest we come off as "arrogant."


Hey, you're the one whose kid is at a charter school. I'm the one who is working with "at risk" kids . . . hardly shutting up and playing dead on this stuff.

the feds came on at the tail end of the process, mainly just to provide a little funding to help states with adoption. And that means

Anonymous wrote:

Yes, they did ask for input and they got lots of input, too - and that's proven. They asked, regardless of whether it was their job to ask for it or not.

Seriously? That's great. Please post the results of the input--I'd like to see the data, comments, etc.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

NEA, AFT and other organizations representing millions of teachers DID ask for input and did outreach. Seems to me that you didn't hear about it is your own problem.


No, they did not ask for input. They did not do "outreach" on this. That is really not the job of the unions.

Yes, they did ask for input and they got lots of input, too - and that's proven. They asked, regardless of whether it was their job to ask for it or not.

But I would contend that in fact it is part of their job as a union, to enhance and improve respect of teachers as a profession.

I belonged to the union when I taught I was never once asked for anything but money. FWIW, the union leaders at hq decided who the union would support in elections. They did not ask the members.

Oh, no... they didn't support the communist Kenyan muslin, did they?

Yes, they did ask for input and they got lots of input, too - and that's proven. They asked, regardless of whether it was their job to ask for it or not.


Seriously? That's great. Please post the results of the input--I'd like to see the data, comments, etc.

Yeah, so states and school districts better start getting their shit together then. Dumping the standards still doesn't change the fact that it was the states and school districts that screwed the pooch, as opposed to it being a standards problem.



This is the kind of arrogance that is not endearing the states to the standards. With this kind of love and support, who would want to stay with the CC?


Ah, got you. We're all supposed to just shut up, roll over, play dead, and put up with grotesque mediocrity and dysfunction in our public school systems lest we come off as "arrogant."

Anonymous wrote:

NEA, AFT and other organizations representing millions of teachers DID ask for input and did outreach. Seems to me that you didn't hear about it is your own problem.


No, they did not ask for input. They did not do "outreach" on this. That is really not the job of the unions.

Yes, they did ask for input and they got lots of input, too - and that's proven. They asked, regardless of whether it was their job to ask for it or not.

But I would contend that in fact it is part of their job as a union, to enhance and improve respect of teachers as a profession.

I belonged to the union when I taught I was never once asked for anything but money. FWIW, the union leaders at hq decided who the union would support in elections. They did not ask the members.