Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Where are the States’ rights people? We are witnessing federal agents invade a state under the guise of immigration enforcement wearing masks, refusing to identify themselves and employing tactics that LEO and the military cannot legally conduct, ignoring court orders, violating citizens’ constitutional rights, refusing to cooperate with state and local law enforcement, and lying to the American people about all of it. Then the AG sends a letter offering to make it all go away if the state complies with various demand that have nothing to do with immigration.
WAKE UP AMERICA!!
State rights cannot violate federal laws, sorry stay in your lane and help deport them this will be over
This is rapist talk.
Also, no. That’s not true.
Now, please, pedo rapist, STFU.
They are here to perform the mission of deporting all illegals. Once that is over things will be fine. If you choose to help it will go faster.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Since a judge has ruled that ice can’t use tactics like pepper spray on peaceful protests and that apparently was one of the things that set this murder into motion, and since Minnesota has a felony murder statute, can all the agents involved be charged with murder? Do they even need the felony murder statute to charge them all?
Standing in the street to block people/vehicles is not peaceful protests. There’s a longer video that shows him refusing to move, any reference to it here gets removed.
Try actually linking the video in question instead of just telling us a tall tale about it?
It’s been linked a few time, gets deleted. He’s in the road, they ask him to move, he refuses, tells others to refuse. It’s why they push people at the beginning of the video you see. They didn’t walk up to people and push them for no reason.
Stop lying and making things up. The videos (multiple videos, from different angles) show the agents pushing him and a woman on the side of the road. They push the woman into a small snowbank on the curb and she and Alex are slipping on the snow. They were not in the road obstructing anything when the attack happened. Also, there is no audio of what Alex or the woman are saying. But anyone with eyes can see from their body language as clearly depicted in the videos that they were trying to get away from the agents.
Ask yourself why you are so desperate to believe and propagate lies that are easily refuted.
Those videos cut off the previous 10 seconds? Why? Because it’s the time showing them in the road..
According to Noem, he came at agents with his gun. Are you calling her a liar?
Is this a serious question?
She’s a liar.
PP is clearly being sarcastic. Noem/Miller/DHS lied from the outset that he came at them with a gun, but now the story is that he apparently blocked traffic and there is "damning video" that shows it or something.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You do realize that is exactly what they were doing here, right? Why did Pretti interfere?
From CNN: agents were conducting a targeted operation against an undocumented immigrant “wanted for violent assault,” when an “individual approached US Border Patrol officers
How are these incompetent ICE hooligans supposed to detain a person "wanted for violent assault" when SIX of them couldn't control a NURSE on his HANDS AND KNEES, already pepper-sprayed and punched?
Why are they even trusted with guns?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Where are the States’ rights people? We are witnessing federal agents invade a state under the guise of immigration enforcement wearing masks, refusing to identify themselves and employing tactics that LEO and the military cannot legally conduct, ignoring court orders, violating citizens’ constitutional rights, refusing to cooperate with state and local law enforcement, and lying to the American people about all of it. Then the AG sends a letter offering to make it all go away if the state complies with various demand that have nothing to do with immigration.
WAKE UP AMERICA!!
State rights cannot violate federal laws, sorry stay in your lane and help deport them this will be over
This is rapist talk.
Also, no. That’s not true.
Now, please, pedo rapist, STFU.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If the admin was smart, they would deescalate, pull out, and head to a cooperative red state like TX with lots of illegal immigrants. Make a big deal of the difference in working with a cooperative state.
However, the admin is NOT smart.
Agree that the administration is full of morons but posters need to stop saying this. They are in Texas and they are in Florida. And the states are cooperating. There just aren't as many (any?) protesters to piss them off with a phone or a smile or their mere presence. So we are not seeing this kind of aggressive response.
Please post the number of illegal immigrants apprehended in Texas.
I have been checking independent sources (TRAC from Syracuse) and I look at DHS numbers, which I don't trust at all. The disparity in numbers is enormous. I am inclined to think that the first is accurate and the second is a total fiction. But for the purpose of my point, it is relevant to point out that both sources show Texas as the leader in number of detentions.
Of course this makes sense in a lot of ways starting with size of state, proximity to the border, and sheer number of immigrants. I don't think Texas is being targeted or punished the way the Blue states are selected in an openly vindictive way. But I don't want people to keep repeating an inaccuracy.
sorry meant to include link: https://tracreports.org/immigration/quickfacts/
From Non partisan group: https://www.prisonpolicy.org/blog/2025/12/11/ice-jails-update/
State cooperation with ICE: As one might expect, states that mandate local collaboration with federal law enforcement often have higher levels of ICE arrests, with places like Tennessee, Florida, and Texas among the most extreme examples. To understand the impact of changes to immigration enforcement this year, our analysis compared arrests made between January 20 and May 20 to those made between May 21 and October 15. We found that Texas has the highest overall ICE arrests in this data, and their ICE arrest rate nearly doubled from the first to second period, from about 58 per 100,000 state residents to 110 per 100,000.
How many of those arrests in Texas are of people actually here illegally? Or people who have actually committed crimes? Just plucking brown people off the streets isn't really a metric of anything positive.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Since a judge has ruled that ice can’t use tactics like pepper spray on peaceful protests and that apparently was one of the things that set this murder into motion, and since Minnesota has a felony murder statute, can all the agents involved be charged with murder? Do they even need the felony murder statute to charge them all?
Standing in the street to block people/vehicles is not peaceful protests. There’s a longer video that shows him refusing to move, any reference to it here gets removed.
Try actually linking the video in question instead of just telling us a tall tale about it?
It’s been linked a few time, gets deleted. He’s in the road, they ask him to move, he refuses, tells others to refuse. It’s why they push people at the beginning of the video you see. They didn’t walk up to people and push them for no reason.
Stop lying and making things up. The videos (multiple videos, from different angles) show the agents pushing him and a woman on the side of the road. They push the woman into a small snowbank on the curb and she and Alex are slipping on the snow. They were not in the road obstructing anything when the attack happened. Also, there is no audio of what Alex or the woman are saying. But anyone with eyes can see from their body language as clearly depicted in the videos that they were trying to get away from the agents.
Ask yourself why you are so desperate to believe and propagate lies that are easily refuted.
Those videos cut off the previous 10 seconds? Why? Because it’s the time showing them in the road..
According to Noem, he came at agents with his gun. Are you calling her a liar?
Is this a serious question?
She’s a liar.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Protest is constitutionally protected, and, in my view, a moral imperative in time like these.
But protesting what?
These protesters were protesting immigration enforcement from the get-go, before things escalated.
Now 2 people have died and the shooters have not been held accountable or shootings investigated. THAT is worth protesting.
But not lawful immigration enforcement, ugly as it may be.
Wrong. they were protesting the tactics that changed under Bovino/Noem/Trump. This wasn't an issue under Biden. ICE are the ones who excalate, because they are not trained in the tactics they are trying to employ.
The rioters escalate by insulting and obstructing our federal law enforcement agents. The rioters interfere with the performance of their jobs.
The only tactic that changed from Biden to Trump is that ICE agents are now enforcing federal immigration laws instead of nullifying it. ICE agents didn’t arrest anyone during Biden’s open borders disaster. Biden wasn’t interested in immigration enforcement, just ushering millions of illegal immigrants into the country and giving them taxpayer funded benefits.
Wrong. Their job is NOT to grab brown people off the street. Their job is to be in an office and figure out WITH DATA who is undocumented. Then, they are to see if these people are wanted for violent crimes. (Which boggles the mind if you pause here because if the police are good at their jobs, they’d already be behind bars. And, if ICE had done their jobs, they’d be on a plane upon their release.)
Then, they are supposed to get a warrant, go to their home and detain them, then provide them a hearing. If a judge rules deportation we send them back to their home country.
That IS ICE’s job.
You do realize that is exactly what they were doing here, right? Why did Pretti interfere?
From CNN: agents were conducting a targeted operation against an undocumented immigrant “wanted for violent assault,” when an “individual approached US Border Patrol officers
They had an actual judicial warrant?
If this isn't a bald-faced lie, surely it would be easy to identify the judge. Or are your fingers crossed behind your back?
CNN reported it, are they lying?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Since a judge has ruled that ice can’t use tactics like pepper spray on peaceful protests and that apparently was one of the things that set this murder into motion, and since Minnesota has a felony murder statute, can all the agents involved be charged with murder? Do they even need the felony murder statute to charge them all?
Standing in the street to block people/vehicles is not peaceful protests. There’s a longer video that shows him refusing to move, any reference to it here gets removed.
Try actually linking the video in question instead of just telling us a tall tale about it?
It’s been linked a few time, gets deleted. He’s in the road, they ask him to move, he refuses, tells others to refuse. It’s why they push people at the beginning of the video you see. They didn’t walk up to people and push them for no reason.
Stop lying and making things up. The videos (multiple videos, from different angles) show the agents pushing him and a woman on the side of the road. They push the woman into a small snowbank on the curb and she and Alex are slipping on the snow. They were not in the road obstructing anything when the attack happened. Also, there is no audio of what Alex or the woman are saying. But anyone with eyes can see from their body language as clearly depicted in the videos that they were trying to get away from the agents.
Ask yourself why you are so desperate to believe and propagate lies that are easily refuted.
Those videos cut off the previous 10 seconds? Why? Because it’s the time showing them in the road..
According to Noem, he came at agents with his gun. Are you calling her a liar?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Since a judge has ruled that ice can’t use tactics like pepper spray on peaceful protests and that apparently was one of the things that set this murder into motion, and since Minnesota has a felony murder statute, can all the agents involved be charged with murder? Do they even need the felony murder statute to charge them all?
Standing in the street to block people/vehicles is not peaceful protests. There’s a longer video that shows him refusing to move, any reference to it here gets removed.
Try actually linking the video in question instead of just telling us a tall tale about it?
It’s been linked a few time, gets deleted. He’s in the road, they ask him to move, he refuses, tells others to refuse. It’s why they push people at the beginning of the video you see. They didn’t walk up to people and push them for no reason.
Stop lying and making things up. The videos (multiple videos, from different angles) show the agents pushing him and a woman on the side of the road. They push the woman into a small snowbank on the curb and she and Alex are slipping on the snow. They were not in the road obstructing anything when the attack happened. Also, there is no audio of what Alex or the woman are saying. But anyone with eyes can see from their body language as clearly depicted in the videos that they were trying to get away from the agents.
Ask yourself why you are so desperate to believe and propagate lies that are easily refuted.
Those videos cut off the previous 10 seconds? Why? Because it’s the time showing them in the road..
According to Noem, he came at agents with his gun. Are you calling her a liar?
Is this a serious question?
She’s a liar.
Anonymous wrote:You do realize that is exactly what they were doing here, right? Why did Pretti interfere?
From CNN: agents were conducting a targeted operation against an undocumented immigrant “wanted for violent assault,” when an “individual approached US Border Patrol officers
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Protest is constitutionally protected, and, in my view, a moral imperative in time like these.
But protesting what?
These protesters were protesting immigration enforcement from the get-go, before things escalated.
Now 2 people have died and the shooters have not been held accountable or shootings investigated. THAT is worth protesting.
But not lawful immigration enforcement, ugly as it may be.
Wrong. they were protesting the tactics that changed under Bovino/Noem/Trump. This wasn't an issue under Biden. ICE are the ones who excalate, because they are not trained in the tactics they are trying to employ.
The rioters escalate by insulting and obstructing our federal law enforcement agents. The rioters interfere with the performance of their jobs.
The only tactic that changed from Biden to Trump is that ICE agents are now enforcing federal immigration laws instead of nullifying it. ICE agents didn’t arrest anyone during Biden’s open borders disaster. Biden wasn’t interested in immigration enforcement, just ushering millions of illegal immigrants into the country and giving them taxpayer funded benefits.
Wrong. Their job is NOT to grab brown people off the street. Their job is to be in an office and figure out WITH DATA who is undocumented. Then, they are to see if these people are wanted for violent crimes. (Which boggles the mind if you pause here because if the police are good at their jobs, they’d already be behind bars. And, if ICE had done their jobs, they’d be on a plane upon their release.)
Then, they are supposed to get a warrant, go to their home and detain them, then provide them a hearing. If a judge rules deportation we send them back to their home country.
That IS ICE’s job.
You do realize that is exactly what they were doing here, right? Why did Pretti interfere?
From CNN: agents were conducting a targeted operation against an undocumented immigrant “wanted for violent assault,” when an “individual approached US Border Patrol officers
They had an actual judicial warrant?
If this isn't a bald-faced lie, surely it would be easy to identify the judge. Or are your fingers crossed behind your back?
Anonymous wrote:BARTIROMO: There is outrage across the country that there is another killing. Someone is dead at the hands of Border Patrol. What can you tell us?
KASH PATEL: You do not get to attack law enforcement officials in this country without any repercussions. We not messing around.
Ryan Goodman:
Federal judges will be watching this.
Head of the FBI commenting publicly on the Alex Pretti shooting and with prejudicial statements that show flagrant bias.
