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Anonymous wrote:Now that the GOP is floating that federal employees (including military) won't get back pay, the sick-outs will start in earnest. I truly hope the ATC nationwide, do a single day, en masse, to end this crap now.

The existing law requires back pay so the CR would have to reverse that. I doubt any dem would vote for it if it did.

I keep hearing this but is it true? My understanding is the current CR gives Vought and Trump the power to reallocate spending as they see fit. So why would they need a new CR. Isn’t the whole idea to challenge impoundment and given the administration the ability to ignore the spending allocated by Congress?

They could for payroll but that might be logistically challenging since pay might come out of program admin costs on individual program lines in some agencies or might come out of a central account at others or a mix of both. It would take some work and concerted effort for OMB to impound those funds or they could put a restriction on the apportionment that says they can use the funds for backpay but I doubt they would want to be that transparent-easier to challenge in court. An easier way would be for the CR to add a provision notwithstanding the current law, but no one, not even Rs would want that vote on record, so in reality is this is all bluff on the part of Vought and more empty threats.

Traitor Vought illegally published a fals version of the law, as an excuse to not pay furloughed employees.

A Trump never pays his debts.

https://www.govexec.com/pay-benefits/2025/10/omb-deletes-reference-law-guaranteeing-backpay-furloughed-feds-shutdown-guidance/408645/

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Anonymous wrote:Now that the GOP is floating that federal employees (including military) won't get back pay, the sick-outs will start in earnest. I truly hope the ATC nationwide, do a single day, en masse, to end this crap now.

The existing law requires back pay so the CR would have to reverse that. I doubt any dem would vote for it if it did.

I keep hearing this but is it true? My understanding is the current CR gives Vought and Trump the power to reallocate spending as they see fit. So why would they need a new CR. Isn’t the whole idea to challenge impoundment and given the administration the ability to ignore the spending allocated by Congress?

Anonymous wrote:Is Vought the new Musk?

I haven't reviewed the latest play book.

Musk was a buffoon. Vought is diabolical.

Is Vought the new Musk?

I haven't reviewed the latest play book.

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Anonymous wrote:Now that the GOP is floating that federal employees (including military) won't get back pay, the sick-outs will start in earnest. I truly hope the ATC nationwide, do a single day, en masse, to end this crap now.

The existing law requires back pay so the CR would have to reverse that. I doubt any dem would vote for it if it did.

Speaker Johnson talked about it today. We live in an authoritarian and lawless government now, so CR's and what not are quaint.

Vought is saying won't uphold the back pay laws passed by Congress, and disgustingly Johnson is fine with that.

Thune, Tillis and other R’s in the senate have already said they won’t back this. Johnson and Vought can crow all they want but there’s no way even their own party will go for this. Now dear leader is back to saying layoffs in 4-5 days.

A vote against impeachment conviction is a vote for Trump and Miller/Vought's "unitary executive's plenary power".

Trump doesn't care what laws Congress passes.

The dementia patient in assisted living at the white house rambles and lies about his refusal to communicate with Democrat and his imaginary conversations with Schrodinger's President of Somalia.

https://www.reddit.com/r/CringeTikToks/comments/1o0jz2h/trump_the_democrats_have_no_leader_they_remind_me/

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Anonymous wrote:Now that the GOP is floating that federal employees (including military) won't get back pay, the sick-outs will start in earnest. I truly hope the ATC nationwide, do a single day, en masse, to end this crap now.

The existing law requires back pay so the CR would have to reverse that. I doubt any dem would vote for it if it did.

Speaker Johnson talked about it today. We live in an authoritarian and lawless government now, so CR's and what not are quaint.

Vought is saying won't uphold the back pay laws passed by Congress, and disgustingly Johnson is fine with that.

Thune, Tillis and other R’s in the senate have already said they won’t back this. Johnson and Vought can crow all they want but there’s no way even their own party will go for this. Now dear leader is back to saying layoffs in 4-5 days.

Anonymous wrote:Things have to be really bad behind the scenes for the right leaning Politico to go with the 'GOP in Disarray' headlines

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/10/07/shutdown-republicans-disarray-00597018

How can they be in disarray when they control all 3 branches? 🤡🤡🤡

Anonymous wrote:Things have to be really bad behind the scenes for the right leaning Politico to go with the 'GOP in Disarray' headlines

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/10/07/shutdown-republicans-disarray-00597018

I love Politico. It's not right-leaning.

Things have to be really bad behind the scenes for the right leaning Politico to go with the 'GOP in Disarray' headlines

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/10/07/shutdown-republicans-disarray-00597018

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Anonymous wrote:Ok, after 74 pages on here and another vote underway later today - how long is this thing really going to last? What’s your bet?

They're already starting to talk about how to extend the ACA subsidies. I think it'll be over by mid-next week.

This is my guess too. Next Wednesday it’s over.

Throw in TSA and ATC starting to call in sick and it’ll be over.

Anonymous wrote:What happened to threats to fire lots of feds? I guess that was just a bluff?

They moved on to attempts to strip us of back pay

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Anonymous wrote:Expect more delays at the airports. Air traffic controllers have an uptick in sick calls. They are being asked to work without pay, and some are saying I don’t think so, that’s what sick leave is for. https://apple.news/AkwTPiIY5TO2f-S2bo2H2wA

I flew into Dulles around the time of the shift change of the TSA workers and they were discussing where to go for a hot meal at a soup kitchen since they're not getting paid. Disgraceful America--to treat its employees this way.

Aren’t all federal employees going to get paid around mid October for the pay period that ended just before the shutdown?

Yeah. Nobody has missed a paycheck yet. The TSA probably is demoralized, and they may be concerned that they need to hold onto that next paycheck for expenses when the one following is missed. Maybe some also get SNAP? But talk of soup kitchens at this point is probably gallows humor.

SNAP? What’s that?

Another program that lost funding because of republican hatefulness
https://www.ky3.com/2025/10/05/snap-wic-benefits-risk-during-government-shutdown/

The running Dem talking point in 2026 should be “Republicans want to kill your kids.”

Lack of benefits
Lack of safe drinking water
Demolishing vaccine schedules
Demolishing cancer research
Attacking health care and closing rural clinics
Refusing to address the #1 killer of kids — gun violence
And on and on….

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Anonymous wrote:Now that the GOP is floating that federal employees (including military) won't get back pay, the sick-outs will start in earnest. I truly hope the ATC nationwide, do a single day, en masse, to end this crap now.

The existing law requires back pay so the CR would have to reverse that. I doubt any dem would vote for it if it did.

Speaker Johnson talked about it today. We live in an authoritarian and lawless government now, so CR's and what not are quaint.

So to recap, Democrats weaponized the TSA to harass Tulsi Gabbard and Republican Congressmen and we just learned the FBI was spying on eight Republican senators… but something something Trump is an authoritarian?

If you don’t want your phone to be tapped, don’t support an insurrection. Simple.