Seniors in Florida, who remember WW2, are not happy about Trump returning to the White House.

If Florida is at all in play, it will be a game changer for the Electoral College map.

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Anonymous wrote:Deny all you want, but when WaPo reports that VA is essentially tied and thus a toss up state (Sat June 8 Metro section), something is happening across the country. And it's not good for Joe Biden.

Do you believe that VA is essentially tied? Does that comport with your understanding of VA? Does it align with what you're seeing in other polls?

No, I actually don't believe they are tied in VA, when you look at people who actually vote.

BUT - what these polls show, I think, is that VA is winnable for the Republicans. It's going to take a tremendous amount of work. But I do think it's possible. I would not have said that at this point in 2020.

Anonymous wrote:Deny all you want, but when WaPo reports that VA is essentially tied and thus a toss up state (Sat June 8 Metro section), something is happening across the country. And it's not good for Joe Biden.

If you want to believe that, go for it. Republicans have underperformed polls for two years, and they will again this fall.

Anonymous wrote:Deny all you want, but when WaPo reports that VA is essentially tied and thus a toss up state (Sat June 8 Metro section), something is happening across the country. And it's not good for Joe Biden.

Do you believe that VA is essentially tied? Does that comport with your understanding of VA? Does it align with what you're seeing in other polls?

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Anonymous wrote:The polling is basically faulty on all sides. The actual poll - at the election box, has been moving towards the Dems since 2018.

As such, when we see right winger touting polls that show things like "tied in Virginia" - when Virginia ends up being on par for the last several cycles in the Dems favor, it will be easier for Trump to shout "rigged rigged rigged" and have the idiots believe him.

It’s not right wing or left wing to quote a poll. A poll is a poll.

538 seems to put together many polls from many sources and posts them.

The current slew of polls show Trump and Biden tied in a few and one had Biden up by 2.


The Florida polls show one where Biden down by 4, but 3 others show Trump up by 8-11 points.


They may be off a little bit, but they are what they are. Don’t get upset about what the numbers show.

The numbers just don't make a lot of sense, together.

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Anonymous wrote:Election Betting Odds is interesting. It shows Trump winning the popular vote but the Democrats edging out the electoral College 270 to 268.

No effing way Trump wins the popular vote, but those electoral college numbers are my exact prediction. That’s Biden winning MI/WI/PA and the Omaha district in NE, but Trump winning GA/NC/FL/AZ/NV and the rural district in Maine. I think and hope Biden will do better but if I was betting money that’s what I’d bet on.

There will be no Omaha district in NE in November. Republican state legislature changing that.

Nope, that failed.

Once. But the Republican legislature has vowed to bring it up again.

Deny all you want, but when WaPo reports that VA is essentially tied and thus a toss up state (Sat June 8 Metro section), something is happening across the country. And it's not good for Joe Biden.

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Anonymous wrote:Trump up by 5 in Georgia in new Quinnipiac poll.

And he’s up by a lot in NC and tied in the most recent poll in VA, a state that he lost by almost 10 points in 2020.

If VA is a battleground state again Biden is in deep trouble. The national polls don’t matter, what matters are all these polls in battleground states that Trump is repeatedly winning in.

VA is absolutely up for grabs this year. Both sides acknowledge that. Youngkin playing a critical role.

Do you remember what happened in Virginia in the midterms? What role did Youngkin play there?

I swear, for as aggressively nasty MAGA people are, you all are the biggest pie in the sky, big eyed optimists I've ever encountered.

Different situation. But sure, keep telling yourself that Va is solidly blue.

I'm not saying anything. I hope you guys spend so much money in Virginia. Just gobs and gobs of it. And New York.

Don’t need to spend any money in VA. No money spent and it’s a tied race in Blue Virginia. Biden is motivation enough to vote for Trump. And it’s not really a pro-Trump vote, as it is a rejection of Biden and his policies.

If I were Trump I would just get Vivek and family and JD Vance and family to hold rallies every other week in Loudoun and Fairfax. The Indian American population there is huge and very culturally conservative.

Nah. Many Indians may be socially conservative but they’re not fond of racism, denial of science or the insurrectionist January 6 behavior Trump embodies

Anonymous wrote:The polling is basically faulty on all sides. The actual poll - at the election box, has been moving towards the Dems since 2018.

As such, when we see right winger touting polls that show things like "tied in Virginia" - when Virginia ends up being on par for the last several cycles in the Dems favor, it will be easier for Trump to shout "rigged rigged rigged" and have the idiots believe him.

It’s not right wing or left wing to quote a poll. A poll is a poll.

538 seems to put together many polls from many sources and posts them.

The current slew of polls show Trump and Biden tied in a few and one had Biden up by 2.


The Florida polls show one where Biden down by 4, but 3 others show Trump up by 8-11 points.


They may be off a little bit, but they are what they are. Don’t get upset about what the numbers show.

The polling is basically faulty on all sides. The actual poll - at the election box, has been moving towards the Dems since 2018.

As such, when we see right winger touting polls that show things like "tied in Virginia" - when Virginia ends up being on par for the last several cycles in the Dems favor, it will be easier for Trump to shout "rigged rigged rigged" and have the idiots believe him.

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Anonymous wrote:Trump up by 5 in Georgia in new Quinnipiac poll.

And he’s up by a lot in NC and tied in the most recent poll in VA, a state that he lost by almost 10 points in 2020.

If VA is a battleground state again Biden is in deep trouble. The national polls don’t matter, what matters are all these polls in battleground states that Trump is repeatedly winning in.

VA is absolutely up for grabs this year. Both sides acknowledge that. Youngkin playing a critical role.

Do you remember what happened in Virginia in the midterms? What role did Youngkin play there?

I swear, for as aggressively nasty MAGA people are, you all are the biggest pie in the sky, big eyed optimists I've ever encountered.

Different situation. But sure, keep telling yourself that Va is solidly blue.

I'm not saying anything. I hope you guys spend so much money in Virginia. Just gobs and gobs of it. And New York.

Don’t need to spend any money in VA. No money spent and it’s a tied race in Blue Virginia. Biden is motivation enough to vote for Trump. And it’s not really a pro-Trump vote, as it is a rejection of Biden and his policies.

If I were Trump I would just get Vivek and family and JD Vance and family to hold rallies every other week in Loudoun and Fairfax. The Indian American population there is huge and very culturally conservative.

It is culturally conservative. But one thinks that if they enjoyed corrupt, kleptocratic government, they would have just stayed in India where many of them enjoyed the advantages of a higher caste and being part of the dominant religion. It’s not fun being a well educated well off minority in a party whose main selling point is that high school dropouts and other intellectual degenerates should be in charge because they are white men who believe in Jeebus.

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Anonymous wrote:Election Betting Odds is interesting. It shows Trump winning the popular vote but the Democrats edging out the electoral College 270 to 268.

No effing way Trump wins the popular vote, but those electoral college numbers are my exact prediction. That’s Biden winning MI/WI/PA and the Omaha district in NE, but Trump winning GA/NC/FL/AZ/NV and the rural district in Maine. I think and hope Biden will do better but if I was betting money that’s what I’d bet on.

There will be no Omaha district in NE in November. Republican state legislature changing that.

Nope, that failed.

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Anonymous wrote:Trump up by 5 in Georgia in new Quinnipiac poll.

And he’s up by a lot in NC and tied in the most recent poll in VA, a state that he lost by almost 10 points in 2020.

If VA is a battleground state again Biden is in deep trouble. The national polls don’t matter, what matters are all these polls in battleground states that Trump is repeatedly winning in.

VA is absolutely up for grabs this year. Both sides acknowledge that. Youngkin playing a critical role.

Do you remember what happened in Virginia in the midterms? What role did Youngkin play there?

I swear, for as aggressively nasty MAGA people are, you all are the biggest pie in the sky, big eyed optimists I've ever encountered.

Different situation. But sure, keep telling yourself that Va is solidly blue.

I'm not saying anything. I hope you guys spend so much money in Virginia. Just gobs and gobs of it. And New York.

Don’t need to spend any money in VA. No money spent and it’s a tied race in Blue Virginia. Biden is motivation enough to vote for Trump. And it’s not really a pro-Trump vote, as it is a rejection of Biden and his policies.

If I were Trump I would just get Vivek and family and JD Vance and family to hold rallies every other week in Loudoun and Fairfax. The Indian American population there is huge and very culturally conservative.