Anonymous wrote:Such a horrible story.

This is the ultimate failure of liberal governance- and I say this as a liberal. For cities to work there has to be order. But we are treating normal people like sheep whose job is to be preyed on by the criminal and insane.

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Anonymous wrote:My husband is mentally ill, steep decline. We are a professional, middle class family. His illness has destroyed us, and there is little to no recourse in America. HIPAA and the rights for the mentally ill dont protect them, or families. He will probably end up living under a bridge and there is nothing we can do. We need the ability to treat people and for families to interact with mental health . We actually have the resources in our family, we just can't force him.

That’s such an eye-opening perspective. Appreciate you sharing.

Ty for being kind. Ask me anything. We are in the middle of it, and it is hell. If you looked at us, you would never know. We shop at whole foods and have successful friends and I thought a happy life all that. Now we are pretty much in ruin because our foundation is just dry rot. It was a total surprise to me - this kind of psychic break can just... Happen. The weird thing is I've sat with my spouse and watched Netflix shows about people with multiple personalities etc. and he's nodded along, and I now know he himself has been delusional for some time. The mentally ill sometimes have zero awareness that they are in fact, mentally ill. Those with awareness are the impacted - their families..and there are HUGE barriers towards our interacting with the doctors. The process for guardianship or conservatorship an expensive nightmare, and not guaranteed to be successful. Mostly it will just bar him from future employment and tick him off. We will go there if he needs to be permanently institutionalized - right now we just want a diagnosis, which is apparently a lot to ask in this country. Literally all we want is to give some input to a psychiatrist because what he tells the doctors is his reality, which is false. Our country is well prepared to address outlier behaviors from a criminal perspective - my spouse has done some weird stuff I'm discovering like shoplift for no reason (again, highly successful)- but not to get mental health. And I am fully prepared to say that at this point, his getting arrested may be our best option as a family since there is no other mechanism..

Same here- just read this comment. If my sister gets arrested or worse it will be for her own good. We are so ashamed of the pain she has caused both to our parents, our kids and to random strangers she has conned out of thousands to feed her addiction. She cannot hold down a job due to brain damage from her drug use and drives a car drunk and high annd opens any new credit card she can. She’s an absolute menace. It’s horrifying.

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Anonymous wrote:My husband is mentally ill, steep decline. We are a professional, middle class family. His illness has destroyed us, and there is little to no recourse in America. HIPAA and the rights for the mentally ill dont protect them, or families. He will probably end up living under a bridge and there is nothing we can do. We need the ability to treat people and for families to interact with mental health . We actually have the resources in our family, we just can't force him.

Same girl same. We have spent over 200K on trying to get my addict sister help. She is a liar and a grifter and con artist. Violent and deceitful. It’s benzos and booze for her. So painful and awful. For Our family it might be better if she was killed by a bystander than have to continue to endure this pain. She steals from us, breaks in, cons our elderly parents and strangers and worse. There is no recourse because she is a middle aged fat pig.
I support Daniel penny 100 percent. These situations escalate horribly fast. It’s sad for everyone.

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Anonymous wrote:My husband is mentally ill, steep decline. We are a professional, middle class family. His illness has destroyed us, and there is little to no recourse in America. HIPAA and the rights for the mentally ill dont protect them, or families. He will probably end up living under a bridge and there is nothing we can do. We need the ability to treat people and for families to interact with mental health . We actually have the resources in our family, we just can't force him.

That’s such an eye-opening perspective. Appreciate you sharing.

Ty for being kind. Ask me anything. We are in the middle of it, and it is hell. If you looked at us, you would never know. We shop at whole foods and have successful friends and I thought a happy life all that. Now we are pretty much in ruin because our foundation is just dry rot. It was a total surprise to me - this kind of psychic break can just... Happen. The weird thing is I've sat with my spouse and watched Netflix shows about people with multiple personalities etc. and he's nodded along, and I now know he himself has been delusional for some time. The mentally ill sometimes have zero awareness that they are in fact, mentally ill. Those with awareness are the impacted - their families..and there are HUGE barriers towards our interacting with the doctors. The process for guardianship or conservatorship an expensive nightmare, and not guaranteed to be successful. Mostly it will just bar him from future employment and tick him off. We will go there if he needs to be permanently institutionalized - right now we just want a diagnosis, which is apparently a lot to ask in this country. Literally all we want is to give some input to a psychiatrist because what he tells the doctors is his reality, which is false. Our country is well prepared to address outlier behaviors from a criminal perspective - my spouse has done some weird stuff I'm discovering like shoplift for no reason (again, highly successful)- but not to get mental health. And I am fully prepared to say that at this point, his getting arrested may be our best option as a family since there is no other mechanism..

Anonymous wrote:My husband is mentally ill, steep decline. We are a professional, middle class family. His illness has destroyed us, and there is little to no recourse in America. HIPAA and the rights for the mentally ill dont protect them, or families. He will probably end up living under a bridge and there is nothing we can do. We need the ability to treat people and for families to interact with mental health . We actually have the resources in our family, we just can't force him.

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Anonymous wrote:My husband is mentally ill, steep decline. We are a professional, middle class family. His illness has destroyed us, and there is little to no recourse in America. HIPAA and the rights for the mentally ill dont protect them, or families. He will probably end up living under a bridge and there is nothing we can do. We need the ability to treat people and for families to interact with mental health . We actually have the resources in our family, we just can't force him.

That’s such an eye-opening perspective. Appreciate you sharing.

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Anonymous wrote:I just had a DC metro encounter with an unhinged drunk/mentally ill person and my thoughts immediately went to Penny - as in I could fully understand why someone would have wanted to physically restrain him. This was a BIG man who was pacing and ranting about killing people with his bare hands. I was with my kid and just tried not to move at all. We moved to the next car at the next stop but it felt like a very long time. It was really not fun.

If a guy like that attacks someone, just walk away and let them get killed unless you want to go viral as the new face of white supremacy.

Anonymous wrote:My husband is mentally ill, steep decline. We are a professional, middle class family. His illness has destroyed us, and there is little to no recourse in America. HIPAA and the rights for the mentally ill dont protect them, or families. He will probably end up living under a bridge and there is nothing we can do. We need the ability to treat people and for families to interact with mental health . We actually have the resources in our family, we just can't force him.

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Anonymous wrote:Is anyone here following the trial?

A little bit. I've been following his GiveSendGo fundraiser though. It's over $3.1 million

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Anonymous wrote:60-year old woman was struck with her own cane 50 times on NY metro this morning and no single person stepped in to help. I guess everyone is still watching what is going to happen to Penny's trial.

Can you blame them?

These two incidents are not at all equivalent. First of all, it started as an altercation and happened at 3 in the morning. Someone videoed it, instead of stepping in, likely because of moral turpitude or fear of being beat up him/herself. I doubt they were thinking, "wow, this is jut like that marine who killed a loud dude. I better not intervene."

Taking video is what I would do. I'm a woman and there's no way I could restrain a violent adult. Getting some video evidence with the perp's face is the only way I could help.

Call 911 first.

By the time 911 responds to an attack on a bus or train, you would be already assaulted and/or dead.