Anonymous
07/22/2020 13:55
Subject: Re:US coronavirus cases top 10,000 and on the same or worse curve than Italy
Trump's has gotten it completely backwards: where we needed a strong federal response - testing, distribution of resources, contact tracing, etc. - he declared that the states were on their own.
While there's plenty of blame to go around....I was discussing the way state v. federal government systems work in the US to my DD. We are actually one of only a few countries that give a lot of power to state governments.
Back in March/April...when it would have been the most beneficial to issue a FEDERAL MANDATE for a country-wide stay at home order....I ask you...
a) How would you have enforced it? National Guard?
b) Do you really think that states such as WV, Montana, Wyoming, etc. (who at the time had under 20 cases and some had 0) would have agreed to such a federal mandate?
Each state/commonwealth likes to maintain its own control and I'm 100% positive that had Trump issued a federal mandate for a country-wide stay at home order back in March/April, that most if not all states that had little to no cases would have defied any such federal mandate.
I'm no Trump supporter, but you can't blame just one person on the situation the US is in now.
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Anonymous
07/19/2020 19:49
Subject: US coronavirus cases top 10,000 and on the same or worse curve than Italy
This article made me cry: https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/07/19/coronavirus-us-failure/
We are a failure nation.
We are a failure nation.
Anonymous
07/19/2020 08:40
Subject: US coronavirus cases top 10,000 and on the same or worse curve than Italy
Anonymous wrote:
This isn't a fair comparison. The population of the U.S. is 6x that of Italy.
Then go look at the population adjusted graphs. They are readily available and are no different. The US is an unmitigated disaster on this issue. It is effecting our national pshyche, our economic stability, our GDP our ability to conduct world trade. Heck, even Canada won't let the Blue Jays host baseball games in Toronto.
Anonymous
07/19/2020 08:38
Subject: US coronavirus cases top 10,000 and on the same or worse curve than Italy
The population of the US is a bit less than that. And look at the graph!
We also had more time to prepare, we have less population density and mass transit use, and we have more money. Why are we doing so poorly?
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Anonymous
07/18/2020 23:39
Subject: US coronavirus cases top 10,000 and on the same or worse curve than Italy
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Trump's has gotten it completely backwards: where we needed a strong federal response - testing, distribution of resources, contact tracing, etc. - he declared that the states were on their own.
By contrast, where local control and decision-making is best - opening schools only where the virus isn't running wild - he mandates a mindless top-down approach.
It’s mind boggling how every single instinct of his is devastatingly wrong.
...or he’s purposely stoking chaos, destruction, and death.
If your goal is to destroy America health, wealth, and stability, then Trump would get an A+.
People need to face the fact that the man is evil and is actively trying to harm Americans. The Republicans are happy to allow it to happen.
Anonymous
07/18/2020 23:28
Subject: US coronavirus cases top 10,000 and on the same or worse curve than Italy
Anonymous wrote:Trump's has gotten it completely backwards: where we needed a strong federal response - testing, distribution of resources, contact tracing, etc. - he declared that the states were on their own.
By contrast, where local control and decision-making is best - opening schools only where the virus isn't running wild - he mandates a mindless top-down approach.
It’s mind boggling how every single instinct of his is devastatingly wrong.
Anonymous
07/18/2020 17:21
Subject: US coronavirus cases top 10,000 and on the same or worse curve than Italy
Anonymous wrote:And, now we are at the part where the sole woman involved is thrown under the bus
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/18/us/politics/trump-coronavirus-response-failure-leadership.html
“The roots of the nation’s current inability to control the pandemic can be traced to mid-April...”
Mid-April was right after the first demographic data was released that showed that Covid was disproportionately infecting and killing minorities.
Anonymous
07/18/2020 15:24
Subject: US coronavirus cases top 10,000 and on the same or worse curve than Italy
And, now we are at the part where the sole woman involved is thrown under the bus
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/18/us/politics/trump-coronavirus-response-failure-leadership.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/18/us/politics/trump-coronavirus-response-failure-leadership.html
Anonymous
07/17/2020 11:45
Subject: US coronavirus cases top 10,000 and on the same or worse curve than Italy
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
If this is what you people want the U.S. to do, good luck.....
https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/05/12/vietnam-coronavirus-pandemic-success-repression/
There is a line between repressed authoritarianism, and common sense leadership. Somehow, Obama was able to strike the line with N1H1 and yet, was crucified by the right on it. yet, the stock market rose, the economy never skipped a beat and schools we never even suggested to close.
Trump and his followers are clearly just pathetic, incompetent losers.
From Reuters:
It is incorrect to say that nothing was consequently canceled, or that the stock market was “smooth sailing” while this pandemic unfolded. According to the National Institutes of Health (NIH), “when novel influenza H1N1 emerged suddenly in 2009, it was not surprising that over 726 K-12 schools in the United States closed” (here). On May 2, 2009, President Obama in his weekly address to the nation reminded Americans of the CDC’s recommendation that “schools and childcare facilities with confirmed cases of the virus close for up to fourteen days.” (here)
For the first five months of the pandemic, which began in the U.S. in April 2009 and ended in August 2010, the U.S. was still in the midst of the Great Recession (here) though the S&P 500 did grow 65 percent between March 9 and December 30, 2009 (here).
At the beginning of the H1N1 outbreak, U.S. stock index futures traded lower as worries linked to a global swine flu outbreak added to U.S. bank stress-test jitters (here). The same day, Reuters also reported that “stocks worldwide and oil prices fell… on fears that a possible flu pandemic could further weaken a global economy thrown into recession by a financial crisis.” (here)
Closing for 14 days because of a case being present =/= what we have now
Stock market futures falling in light of the existing financial crisis at the time =/= what we have now...and Obama didn't have a friendly Fed propping up the country.
Anonymous
07/17/2020 11:43
Subject: US coronavirus cases top 10,000 and on the same or worse curve than Italy
Trump's has gotten it completely backwards: where we needed a strong federal response - testing, distribution of resources, contact tracing, etc. - he declared that the states were on their own.
By contrast, where local control and decision-making is best - opening schools only where the virus isn't running wild - he mandates a mindless top-down approach.
By contrast, where local control and decision-making is best - opening schools only where the virus isn't running wild - he mandates a mindless top-down approach.
Anonymous
07/17/2020 11:33
Subject: US coronavirus cases top 10,000 and on the same or worse curve than Italy
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
If this is what you people want the U.S. to do, good luck.....
https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/05/12/vietnam-coronavirus-pandemic-success-repression/
There is a line between repressed authoritarianism, and common sense leadership. Somehow, Obama was able to strike the line with N1H1 and yet, was crucified by the right on it. yet, the stock market rose, the economy never skipped a beat and schools we never even suggested to close.
Trump and his followers are clearly just pathetic, incompetent losers.
From Reuters:
It is incorrect to say that nothing was consequently canceled, or that the stock market was “smooth sailing” while this pandemic unfolded. According to the National Institutes of Health (NIH), “when novel influenza H1N1 emerged suddenly in 2009, it was not surprising that over 726 K-12 schools in the United States closed” (here). On May 2, 2009, President Obama in his weekly address to the nation reminded Americans of the CDC’s recommendation that “schools and childcare facilities with confirmed cases of the virus close for up to fourteen days.” (here)
For the first five months of the pandemic, which began in the U.S. in April 2009 and ended in August 2010, the U.S. was still in the midst of the Great Recession (here) though the S&P 500 did grow 65 percent between March 9 and December 30, 2009 (here).
At the beginning of the H1N1 outbreak, U.S. stock index futures traded lower as worries linked to a global swine flu outbreak added to U.S. bank stress-test jitters (here). The same day, Reuters also reported that “stocks worldwide and oil prices fell… on fears that a possible flu pandemic could further weaken a global economy thrown into recession by a financial crisis.” (here)