Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I found it ludicrous that Randall would have been going on a road trip given his recent break down. I'm tired of tv/movie writers portraying mental illness as just something you power through.
How maudlin that his father would say "just breathe" when he was a kid and he was able to power through the panic attacks. How ridiculous that as an adult he's had multiple major panic attacks accompanied with physical symptoms and not on regular medication or diagnosed with anything.
The Kevin story-line taking of reviving his past relationship is boring. I'd rather see him struggle as an actor getting over his Manny image.
Also, I thought the note William wrote to his granddaughters not to be sad was B.S. People can and should be sad if they want to. It was meaningless to write and kind of silly that the writers and actors took it all so literally and cutesy.
Kate--ugh--insufferable.
The two characters I liked the most--Jack and William--are dead. Not sure if I'll keep watching next season.
You seem to hate the show, so you probably shouldn't!
I don't "hate" the show, but I'm giving a thoughtful critique of the show. (Many people on this thread don't like Kate either.)
The show is striving for realism, and yeah, you suspend your belief as Kevin gets a hit broadway show, but I am pretty tired of the Hollywood way to deal with mental illness/mind over matter crap. Randall has a complete and utter breakdown then goes on a road trip a week later? It would be more believable if they showed things like trying medication or therapy.
But everything is in the extreme--a baby dies and the family adopts a foundling, paternal grandfather is an abusive drunk, maternal grandmother is a wealthy, control freak, alcoholic narcissist who inspires OCD in her daughter, long lost father is gay, recovered drug addict, musical genius, and dispenses sage, worldly advice. So, I may not keep watching b/c over the top cliches don't interest me.
Why did you (apparently) watch the entire first season then?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I found it ludicrous that Randall would have been going on a road trip given his recent break down. I'm tired of tv/movie writers portraying mental illness as just something you power through.
How maudlin that his father would say "just breathe" when he was a kid and he was able to power through the panic attacks. How ridiculous that as an adult he's had multiple major panic attacks accompanied with physical symptoms and not on regular medication or diagnosed with anything.
The Kevin story-line taking of reviving his past relationship is boring. I'd rather see him struggle as an actor getting over his Manny image.
Also, I thought the note William wrote to his granddaughters not to be sad was B.S. People can and should be sad if they want to. It was meaningless to write and kind of silly that the writers and actors took it all so literally and cutesy.
Kate--ugh--insufferable.
The two characters I liked the most--Jack and William--are dead. Not sure if I'll keep watching next season.
You seem to hate the show, so you probably shouldn't!
I don't "hate" the show, but I'm giving a thoughtful critique of the show. (Many people on this thread don't like Kate either.)
The show is striving for realism, and yeah, you suspend your belief as Kevin gets a hit broadway show, but I am pretty tired of the Hollywood way to deal with mental illness/mind over matter crap. Randall has a complete and utter breakdown then goes on a road trip a week later? It would be more believable if they showed things like trying medication or therapy.
But everything is in the extreme--a baby dies and the family adopts a foundling, paternal grandfather is an abusive drunk, maternal grandmother is a wealthy, control freak, alcoholic narcissist who inspires OCD in her daughter, long lost father is gay, recovered drug addict, musical genius, and dispenses sage, worldly advice. So, I may not keep watching b/c over the top cliches don't interest me.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I found it ludicrous that Randall would have been going on a road trip given his recent break down. I'm tired of tv/movie writers portraying mental illness as just something you power through.
How maudlin that his father would say "just breathe" when he was a kid and he was able to power through the panic attacks. How ridiculous that as an adult he's had multiple major panic attacks accompanied with physical symptoms and not on regular medication or diagnosed with anything.
The Kevin story-line taking of reviving his past relationship is boring. I'd rather see him struggle as an actor getting over his Manny image.
Also, I thought the note William wrote to his granddaughters not to be sad was B.S. People can and should be sad if they want to. It was meaningless to write and kind of silly that the writers and actors took it all so literally and cutesy.
Kate--ugh--insufferable.
The two characters I liked the most--Jack and William--are dead. Not sure if I'll keep watching next season.
You seem to hate the show, so you probably shouldn't!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It was a well done episode. I'm surprised that nobody mentioned that Randall called William "Dad" for the first time when he was holding his face in his hands. That being said, I can't get past the fact that William abandoned his son. He could have gotten his shit together and raised him but chose not to. Not a big William fan so I'm glad this storyline is done.
Easier said than done, PP! He was in a terrible situation. I think he did do the right thing by leaving him in a "safe place" to have the opportunity to be adopted by a good family who could provide for him. William was selfless, IMO.
Agree with the Op and glad that (completely unrealistic) storyline is done!
- child of an addict who can't stand all the love for William
Anonymous wrote:I found it ludicrous that Randall would have been going on a road trip given his recent break down. I'm tired of tv/movie writers portraying mental illness as just something you power through.
How maudlin that his father would say "just breathe" when he was a kid and he was able to power through the panic attacks. How ridiculous that as an adult he's had multiple major panic attacks accompanied with physical symptoms and not on regular medication or diagnosed with anything.
The Kevin story-line taking of reviving his past relationship is boring. I'd rather see him struggle as an actor getting over his Manny image.
Also, I thought the note William wrote to his granddaughters not to be sad was B.S. People can and should be sad if they want to. It was meaningless to write and kind of silly that the writers and actors took it all so literally and cutesy.
Kate--ugh--insufferable.
The two characters I liked the most--Jack and William--are dead. Not sure if I'll keep watching next season.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Am I the only one who found Rebecca to be self-centered and unlikeable? She wasn't forced to have kids. What man or woman who isn't already famous takes off on the road to sing while having kids at home and a spouse working full-time? It's not like she is military and had to go for work. She seems to have zero empathy for the fact while she works hard in the home, he works hard outside the home and he has made plenty of sacrifices. I have been married 15 years and did not relate to the fight at all. We hashed this stuff out BEFORE kids and made adjustments after. Yes, we still had to have a lot of negotiating, but we went into parenthood wanted to be very present parents so we had similar goals.
I kind of saw this as her going on a 2 week (I mean really, 2 weeks is nothing) "work trip" essentially. I mean some people are gone for their job months out of the year as parents for work. yes, that's because they are getting paid and it's their steady job but I think that 1 work related type trip for 2 weeks in 15 years is not all that crazy. I think if it were a dude taking off for 14 days in 15 years no one would bat an eye
Anonymous wrote:Am I the only one who found Rebecca to be self-centered and unlikeable? She wasn't forced to have kids. What man or woman who isn't already famous takes off on the road to sing while having kids at home and a spouse working full-time? It's not like she is military and had to go for work. She seems to have zero empathy for the fact while she works hard in the home, he works hard outside the home and he has made plenty of sacrifices. I have been married 15 years and did not relate to the fight at all. We hashed this stuff out BEFORE kids and made adjustments after. Yes, we still had to have a lot of negotiating, but we went into parenthood wanted to be very present parents so we had similar goals.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It was a well done episode. I'm surprised that nobody mentioned that Randall called William "Dad" for the first time when he was holding his face in his hands. That being said, I can't get past the fact that William abandoned his son. He could have gotten his shit together and raised him but chose not to. Not a big William fan so I'm glad this storyline is done.
Easier said than done, PP! He was in a terrible situation. I think he did do the right thing by leaving him in a "safe place" to have the opportunity to be adopted by a good family who could provide for him. William was selfless, IMO.
Agree with the Op and glad that (completely unrealistic) storyline is done!
- child of an addict who can't stand all the love for William
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It was a well done episode. I'm surprised that nobody mentioned that Randall called William "Dad" for the first time when he was holding his face in his hands. That being said, I can't get past the fact that William abandoned his son. He could have gotten his shit together and raised him but chose not to. Not a big William fan so I'm glad this storyline is done.
Easier said than done, PP! He was in a terrible situation. I think he did do the right thing by leaving him in a "safe place" to have the opportunity to be adopted by a good family who could provide for him. William was selfless, IMO.