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Post 11/01/2025 13:13     Subject: Re:So what happens when the Federal government can’t issue Nov Food Stamps?

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Meh. A number of courts told him he had to.


Exactly! Federal judges in Rhode Island and Massachusetts ordered that he release the emergency funds dedicated to SNAP funding bun event of government shutdown and he is complying because his lawyers have explained to him he won’t win an appeal.

So he’s doubt what New England judges demanded he do, but trying to pass it off like he’s solving a problem of his own volition. And the stupid MAGA sheeple will believe him.


The decisions in Mass and RI can’t possibly stand. This has nothing to do with MAGA or whatever other emotionally laden narratives abound. Government officials cannot violate the Anti-Deficiency Act. Virtually every government official responsible for appropriations law knows this very well. There is a SNAP contingency fund for natural disasters and similar events. It won’t find but half of November. It is questionable whether under any circumstances it is lawful to re-allocate those funds to ordinary payment obligations without Congressional approval. Mind you the Anti-Defiency Act is a criminal statute. Moreover, the notion of a judge mandating appropriations is highly questionable - speaks to imperial behavior.

Don’t get me wrong - feeding hungry people is a very high priority. But there’s no avoiding that Congress, and not judges, must fund that effort.


But Trump had no problem re-appropriating DOD money to pay troops, or re-appropriating program funding for farmers. Why does he suddenly have a problem re-appropriating SNAP money?


The military always makes it a point to pay its troops on time so that they can have their mind on the job ahead and not feeding their kids at home. They even do the same in wartime. Not paying your troops historically has, uh "problems".

Congress needs to get off its tuckus and start funding bills early, but thats just too hard.


Just going to leave this right here.

https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2025/10/16/congress/senate-democrats-military-funding-bill-00611606
Anonymous
Post 11/01/2025 13:13     Subject: So what happens when the Federal government can’t issue Nov Food Stamps?

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Anonymous wrote:Good job on buffing up that spelling, champ. Now work on the understanding part.


What are you even arguing against? Do yoj really think those numbers are wrong. If so, why don't you check them yourself and prove that I'm wrong. It should be pretty easy since I told you the source.

If you think I'm bluffing then call it. Go all in. Let's see if you're the least bit trustworthy.


"do my work for me, Mommy"
Anonymous
Post 11/01/2025 13:13     Subject: So what happens when the Federal government can’t issue Nov Food Stamps?

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Anonymous wrote:We just need six Democrat senators to do the right thing so I can get my paycheck. Looking at you Mr. Van Hollen.


So dense

Never a look at Thune?

I guess you are right. They don't think about you at all


Narrators voice: “Leader Thune has brought a clean CR to the floor 14 times for a vote.”
This shutdown is about the ACA subsidies. I get that you in your secure fed med plan dgaf about the under insured. Thankfully, other feds care and the Democrats care.

This admin could find money to pay the Snap benefits if they wanted to. They've been very creative using their powers when they care. A Dem president would find the funds, shutdown or not.


The “subsidies” were only ever intended to be temporary to get through COVID. That’s why the DEMCRATS capped the subsidies at 5 years. ACA was never intended to be Medicare, Medicaid, or CHIP. It was never intended to be another entitlement program. The country is $38 trillion in debt because of these programs.


No the country is $38 trillion in debt because republicans repeatedly cut taxes but don’t cut spending by an equivalent amount to match the lost revenues.


The Republicans are trying to cut spending. But since they don’t have 60 votes in the Senate they cannot pass individual appropriations bills so we’re stuck with the FY24 Biden budget. Which, ironically, the Senate Democrats have now voted 14 times against.


It’s no longer the FY24 Biden budget. That budget funded USAID, foreign assistance, the education department, infrastructure projects, disaster assistance and numerous other things than Trump has cut. If Rs want to continue whatever remains of that budget, they can change the filibuster and do it with 51 votes.
Anonymous
Post 11/01/2025 13:12     Subject: Re:So what happens when the Federal government can’t issue Nov Food Stamps?

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Anonymous wrote:
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Meh. A number of courts told him he had to.


Exactly! Federal judges in Rhode Island and Massachusetts ordered that he release the emergency funds dedicated to SNAP funding bun event of government shutdown and he is complying because his lawyers have explained to him he won’t win an appeal.

So he’s doubt what New England judges demanded he do, but trying to pass it off like he’s solving a problem of his own volition. And the stupid MAGA sheeple will believe him.


The decisions in Mass and RI can’t possibly stand. This has nothing to do with MAGA or whatever other emotionally laden narratives abound. Government officials cannot violate the Anti-Deficiency Act. Virtually every government official responsible for appropriations law knows this very well. There is a SNAP contingency fund for natural disasters and similar events. It won’t find but half of November. It is questionable whether under any circumstances it is lawful to re-allocate those funds to ordinary payment obligations without Congressional approval. Mind you the Anti-Defiency Act is a criminal statute. Moreover, the notion of a judge mandating appropriations is highly questionable - speaks to imperial behavior.

Don’t get me wrong - feeding hungry people is a very high priority. But there’s no avoiding that Congress, and not judges, must fund that effort.


But Trump had no problem re-appropriating DOD money to pay troops, or re-appropriating program funding for farmers. Why does he suddenly have a problem re-appropriating SNAP money?


The military always makes it a point to pay its troops on time so that they can have their mind on the job ahead and not feeding their kids at home. They even do the same in wartime. Not paying your troops historically has, uh "problems".

Congress needs to get off its tuckus and start funding bills early, but thats just too hard.


Exactly. Even if this "clean CR" passes, it only funds the government til November 21st. The House isn't even in session to deal with what happens then. The House isn't working on a budget to operate the government from November 21st on, they aren't even working on another CR. That's 100% on Mike Johnson.
Anonymous
Post 11/01/2025 13:12     Subject: So what happens when the Federal government can’t issue Nov Food Stamps?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We just need six Democrat senators to do the right thing so I can get my paycheck. Looking at you Mr. Van Hollen.


So dense

Never a look at Thune?

I guess you are right. They don't think about you at all


Narrators voice: “Leader Thune has brought a clean CR to the floor 14 times for a vote.”
This shutdown is about the ACA subsidies. I get that you in your secure fed med plan dgaf about the under insured. Thankfully, other feds care and the Democrats care.

This admin could find money to pay the Snap benefits if they wanted to. They've been very creative using their powers when they care. A Dem president would find the funds, shutdown or not.


Yep.

From a Jason Kander tweet:

Dems: We'll vote for a budget if you let sick people go to the doctor.

Republicans: Let us take doctors away from sick people or we're gonna take food away from poor families.
Anonymous
Post 11/01/2025 13:10     Subject: So what happens when the Federal government can’t issue Nov Food Stamps?

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We just need six Democrat senators to do the right thing so I can get my paycheck. Looking at you Mr. Van Hollen.


So dense

Never a look at Thune?

I guess you are right. They don't think about you at all


Narrators voice: “Leader Thune has brought a clean CR to the floor 14 times for a vote.”
This shutdown is about the ACA subsidies. I get that you in your secure fed med plan dgaf about the under insured. Thankfully, other feds care and the Democrats care.

This admin could find money to pay the Snap benefits if they wanted to. They've been very creative using their powers when they care. A Dem president would find the funds, shutdown or not.


The “subsidies” were only ever intended to be temporary to get through COVID. That’s why the DEMCRATS capped the subsidies at 5 years. ACA was never intended to be Medicare, Medicaid, or CHIP. It was never intended to be another entitlement program. The country is $38 trillion in debt because of these programs.


No the country is $38 trillion in debt because republicans repeatedly cut taxes but don’t cut spending by an equivalent amount to match the lost revenues.


The Republicans are trying to cut spending. But since they don’t have 60 votes in the Senate they cannot pass individual appropriations bills so we’re stuck with the FY24 Biden budget. Which, ironically, the Senate Democrats have now voted 14 times against.


LMAO you're kidding, right? Spending has INCREASED under Trump.
Anonymous
Post 11/01/2025 13:09     Subject: Re:So what happens when the Federal government can’t issue Nov Food Stamps?

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Anonymous wrote:
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Meh. A number of courts told him he had to.


Exactly! Federal judges in Rhode Island and Massachusetts ordered that he release the emergency funds dedicated to SNAP funding bun event of government shutdown and he is complying because his lawyers have explained to him he won’t win an appeal.

So he’s doubt what New England judges demanded he do, but trying to pass it off like he’s solving a problem of his own volition. And the stupid MAGA sheeple will believe him.


The decisions in Mass and RI can’t possibly stand. This has nothing to do with MAGA or whatever other emotionally laden narratives abound. Government officials cannot violate the Anti-Deficiency Act. Virtually every government official responsible for appropriations law knows this very well. There is a SNAP contingency fund for natural disasters and similar events. It won’t find but half of November. It is questionable whether under any circumstances it is lawful to re-allocate those funds to ordinary payment obligations without Congressional approval. Mind you the Anti-Defiency Act is a criminal statute. Moreover, the notion of a judge mandating appropriations is highly questionable - speaks to imperial behavior.

Don’t get me wrong - feeding hungry people is a very high priority. But there’s no avoiding that Congress, and not judges, must fund that effort.


But Trump had no problem re-appropriating DOD money to pay troops, or re-appropriating program funding for farmers. Why does he suddenly have a problem re-appropriating SNAP money?


The military always makes it a point to pay its troops on time so that they can have their mind on the job ahead and not feeding their kids at home. They even do the same in wartime. Not paying your troops historically has, uh "problems".

Congress needs to get off its tuckus and start funding bills early, but thats just too hard.
Anonymous
Post 11/01/2025 13:06     Subject: So what happens when the Federal government can’t issue Nov Food Stamps?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We just need six Democrat senators to do the right thing so I can get my paycheck. Looking at you Mr. Van Hollen.


So dense

Never a look at Thune?

I guess you are right. They don't think about you at all


Narrators voice: “Leader Thune has brought a clean CR to the floor 14 times for a vote.”
This shutdown is about the ACA subsidies. I get that you in your secure fed med plan dgaf about the under insured. Thankfully, other feds care and the Democrats care.

This admin could find money to pay the Snap benefits if they wanted to. They've been very creative using their powers when they care. A Dem president would find the funds, shutdown or not.


The “subsidies” were only ever intended to be temporary to get through COVID. That’s why the DEMCRATS capped the subsidies at 5 years. ACA was never intended to be Medicare, Medicaid, or CHIP. It was never intended to be another entitlement program. The country is $38 trillion in debt because of these programs.


No the country is $38 trillion in debt because republicans repeatedly cut taxes but don’t cut spending by an equivalent amount to match the lost revenues.


The Republicans are trying to cut spending. But since they don’t have 60 votes in the Senate they cannot pass individual appropriations bills so we’re stuck with the FY24 Biden budget. Which, ironically, the Senate Democrats have now voted 14 times against.
Anonymous
Post 11/01/2025 12:45     Subject: So what happens when the Federal government can’t issue Nov Food Stamps?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We just need six Democrat senators to do the right thing so I can get my paycheck. Looking at you Mr. Van Hollen.


So dense

Never a look at Thune?

I guess you are right. They don't think about you at all


Narrators voice: “Leader Thune has brought a clean CR to the floor 14 times for a vote.”
This shutdown is about the ACA subsidies. I get that you in your secure fed med plan dgaf about the under insured. Thankfully, other feds care and the Democrats care.

This admin could find money to pay the Snap benefits if they wanted to. They've been very creative using their powers when they care. A Dem president would find the funds, shutdown or not.


The “subsidies” were only ever intended to be temporary to get through COVID. That’s why the DEMCRATS capped the subsidies at 5 years. ACA was never intended to be Medicare, Medicaid, or CHIP. It was never intended to be another entitlement program. The country is $38 trillion in debt because of these programs.


No the country is $38 trillion in debt because republicans repeatedly cut taxes but don’t cut spending by an equivalent amount to match the lost revenues.
Anonymous
Post 11/01/2025 12:04     Subject: So what happens when the Federal government can’t issue Nov Food Stamps?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We just need six Democrat senators to do the right thing so I can get my paycheck. Looking at you Mr. Van Hollen.


So dense

Never a look at Thune?

I guess you are right. They don't think about you at all


Narrators voice: “Leader Thune has brought a clean CR to the floor 14 times for a vote.”
This shutdown is about the ACA subsidies. I get that you in your secure fed med plan dgaf about the under insured. Thankfully, other feds care and the Democrats care.

This admin could find money to pay the Snap benefits if they wanted to. They've been very creative using their powers when they care. A Dem president would find the funds, shutdown or not.


The “subsidies” were only ever intended to be temporary to get through COVID. That’s why the DEMCRATS capped the subsidies at 5 years. ACA was never intended to be Medicare, Medicaid, or CHIP. It was never intended to be another entitlement program. The country is $38 trillion in debt because of these programs.
Anonymous
Post 11/01/2025 12:03     Subject: Re:So what happens when the Federal government can’t issue Nov Food Stamps?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:


Meh. A number of courts told him he had to.


Exactly! Federal judges in Rhode Island and Massachusetts ordered that he release the emergency funds dedicated to SNAP funding bun event of government shutdown and he is complying because his lawyers have explained to him he won’t win an appeal.

So he’s doubt what New England judges demanded he do, but trying to pass it off like he’s solving a problem of his own volition. And the stupid MAGA sheeple will believe him.


The decisions in Mass and RI can’t possibly stand. This has nothing to do with MAGA or whatever other emotionally laden narratives abound. Government officials cannot violate the Anti-Deficiency Act. Virtually every government official responsible for appropriations law knows this very well. There is a SNAP contingency fund for natural disasters and similar events. It won’t find but half of November. It is questionable whether under any circumstances it is lawful to re-allocate those funds to ordinary payment obligations without Congressional approval. Mind you the Anti-Defiency Act is a criminal statute. Moreover, the notion of a judge mandating appropriations is highly questionable - speaks to imperial behavior.

Don’t get me wrong - feeding hungry people is a very high priority. But there’s no avoiding that Congress, and not judges, must fund that effort.


What are the "natural disasters and similar events" that could befall SNAP? I have a hard time imaging what could impede SNAP payments besides a government shutdown.


+1. It’s like when my husband asked me if he should wear a suit to his grandmother’s funeral. If this situation is not what it’s for, I’m not sure what is.


Oh, the courts said so? Funny, you guys weren’t hesitant to say “let’s defy the court” when the Supreme Court banned race-based affirmative action in colleges & when they sent the abortion issue back to the states.

But now, some low-level punks in RI & MA say something & it’s like “The courts said so!!! The courts said so!!! Na na na-na na!!”


Trump has never abided the judiciary, never.
Anonymous
Post 11/01/2025 12:00     Subject: So what happens when the Federal government can’t issue Nov Food Stamps?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We just need six Democrat senators to do the right thing so I can get my paycheck. Looking at you Mr. Van Hollen.


So dense

Never a look at Thune?

I guess you are right. They don't think about you at all


Narrators voice: “Leader Thune has brought a clean CR to the floor 14 times for a vote.”
This shutdown is about the ACA subsidies. I get that you in your secure fed med plan dgaf about the under insured. Thankfully, other feds care and the Democrats care.

This admin could find money to pay the Snap benefits if they wanted to. They've been very creative using their powers when they care. A Dem president would find the funds, shutdown or not.
Anonymous
Post 11/01/2025 11:36     Subject: So what happens when the Federal government can’t issue Nov Food Stamps?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We just need six Democrat senators to do the right thing so I can get my paycheck. Looking at you Mr. Van Hollen.


So dense

Never a look at Thune?

I guess you are right. They don't think about you at all


Narrators voice: “Leader Thune has brought a clean CR to the floor 14 times for a vote.”
Anonymous
Post 11/01/2025 11:21     Subject: So what happens when the Federal government can’t issue Nov Food Stamps?

Anonymous wrote:We just need six Democrat senators to do the right thing so I can get my paycheck. Looking at you Mr. Van Hollen.


So dense

Never a look at Thune?

I guess you are right. They don't think about you at all
Anonymous
Post 11/01/2025 11:01     Subject: So what happens when the Federal government can’t issue Nov Food Stamps?

We just need six Democrat senators to do the right thing so I can get my paycheck. Looking at you Mr. Van Hollen.