What happened to threats to fire lots of feds? I guess that was just a bluff?

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Anonymous wrote:Ok, after 74 pages on here and another vote underway later today - how long is this thing really going to last? What’s your bet?

They're already starting to talk about how to extend the ACA subsidies. I think it'll be over by mid-next week.

I can’t see it ending today or even Thursday. Too many details to be ironed out.

Right, in order to pass anything other than the CR the House already passed, the House would have to return to Washington. And Mike Johnson is too afraid of the Epstein files for that to happen any time soon.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Now that the GOP is floating that federal employees (including military) won't get back pay, the sick-outs will start in earnest. I truly hope the ATC nationwide, do a single day, en masse, to end this crap now.

The existing law requires back pay so the CR would have to reverse that. I doubt any dem would vote for it if it did.

Speaker Johnson talked about it today. We live in an authoritarian and lawless government now, so CR's and what not are quaint.

So to recap, Democrats weaponized the TSA to harass Tulsi Gabbard and Republican Congressmen and we just learned the FBI was spying on eight Republican senators… but something something Trump is an authoritarian?

Fake news.

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Anonymous wrote:Ok, after 74 pages on here and another vote underway later today - how long is this thing really going to last? What’s your bet?

They're already starting to talk about how to extend the ACA subsidies. I think it'll be over by mid-next week.

I can’t see it ending today or even Thursday. Too many details to be ironed out.

Anonymous wrote:Ok, after 74 pages on here and another vote underway later today - how long is this thing really going to last? What’s your bet?

They're already starting to talk about how to extend the ACA subsidies. I think it'll be over by mid-next week.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Expect more delays at the airports. Air traffic controllers have an uptick in sick calls. They are being asked to work without pay, and some are saying I don’t think so, that’s what sick leave is for. https://apple.news/AkwTPiIY5TO2f-S2bo2H2wA

I flew into Dulles around the time of the shift change of the TSA workers and they were discussing where to go for a hot meal at a soup kitchen since they're not getting paid. Disgraceful America--to treat its employees this way.

Aren’t all federal employees going to get paid around mid October for the pay period that ended just before the shutdown?

Yeah. Nobody has missed a paycheck yet. The TSA probably is demoralized, and they may be concerned that they need to hold onto that next paycheck for expenses when the one following is missed. Maybe some also get SNAP? But talk of soup kitchens at this point is probably gallows humor.

SNAP? What’s that?

Another program that lost funding because of republican hatefulness
https://www.ky3.com/2025/10/05/snap-wic-benefits-risk-during-government-shutdown/

Ok, after 74 pages on here and another vote underway later today - how long is this thing really going to last? What’s your bet?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Now that the GOP is floating that federal employees (including military) won't get back pay, the sick-outs will start in earnest. I truly hope the ATC nationwide, do a single day, en masse, to end this crap now.

The existing law requires back pay so the CR would have to reverse that. I doubt any dem would vote for it if it did.

Speaker Johnson talked about it today. We live in an authoritarian and lawless government now, so CR's and what not are quaint.

So to recap, Democrats weaponized the TSA to harass Tulsi Gabbard and Republican Congressmen and we just learned the FBI was spying on eight Republican senators… but something something Trump is an authoritarian?

You are a DRAMA QUEEN.

During the course of the investigation of January 6 unauthorized and peaceful and saintly tours of the US Capital, Jack Smith wanted to see who Trump was talking to at the time. So he got a warrant to examine "toll" records. A warrant. From a judge. Who required a probably cause statement. There was no tapping. There was no spying. If this were something, why aren't Hawley and crew waiving the warrant and affidavit of cause around?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Expect more delays at the airports. Air traffic controllers have an uptick in sick calls. They are being asked to work without pay, and some are saying I don’t think so, that’s what sick leave is for. https://apple.news/AkwTPiIY5TO2f-S2bo2H2wA

I flew into Dulles around the time of the shift change of the TSA workers and they were discussing where to go for a hot meal at a soup kitchen since they're not getting paid. Disgraceful America--to treat its employees this way.

Aren’t all federal employees going to get paid around mid October for the pay period that ended just before the shutdown?

Yeah. Nobody has missed a paycheck yet. The TSA probably is demoralized, and they may be concerned that they need to hold onto that next paycheck for expenses when the one following is missed. Maybe some also get SNAP? But talk of soup kitchens at this point is probably gallows humor.

SNAP? What’s that?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Expect more delays at the airports. Air traffic controllers have an uptick in sick calls. They are being asked to work without pay, and some are saying I don’t think so, that’s what sick leave is for. https://apple.news/AkwTPiIY5TO2f-S2bo2H2wA

I flew into Dulles around the time of the shift change of the TSA workers and they were discussing where to go for a hot meal at a soup kitchen since they're not getting paid. Disgraceful America--to treat its employees this way.

Aren’t all federal employees going to get paid around mid October for the pay period that ended just before the shutdown?

It's not going to be a full paycheck. I'm a GS9 and I assume they take deductions first, so the missing days will be hitting the remaining amount (take home) hard.

So you live hand to mouth with no backup?

Like most people in this country? Most Americans don't have enough to cover even a $400 unexpected expense. That's all it takes to put most Americans households into a financial emergency. A $400 expense. Missing a paycheck is a big effing deal for most people.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Expect more delays at the airports. Air traffic controllers have an uptick in sick calls. They are being asked to work without pay, and some are saying I don’t think so, that’s what sick leave is for. https://apple.news/AkwTPiIY5TO2f-S2bo2H2wA

I flew into Dulles around the time of the shift change of the TSA workers and they were discussing where to go for a hot meal at a soup kitchen since they're not getting paid. Disgraceful America--to treat its employees this way.

Aren’t all federal employees going to get paid around mid October for the pay period that ended just before the shutdown?

It's not going to be a full paycheck. I'm a GS9 and I assume they take deductions first, so the missing days will be hitting the remaining amount (take home) hard.

So you live hand to mouth with no backup?

Most Americans do. Are you rich or something?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Expect more delays at the airports. Air traffic controllers have an uptick in sick calls. They are being asked to work without pay, and some are saying I don’t think so, that’s what sick leave is for. https://apple.news/AkwTPiIY5TO2f-S2bo2H2wA

I flew into Dulles around the time of the shift change of the TSA workers and they were discussing where to go for a hot meal at a soup kitchen since they're not getting paid. Disgraceful America--to treat its employees this way.

Aren’t all federal employees going to get paid around mid October for the pay period that ended just before the shutdown?

It's not going to be a full paycheck. I'm a GS9 and I assume they take deductions first, so the missing days will be hitting the remaining amount (take home) hard.

So you live hand to mouth with no backup?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Now that the GOP is floating that federal employees (including military) won't get back pay, the sick-outs will start in earnest. I truly hope the ATC nationwide, do a single day, en masse, to end this crap now.

The existing law requires back pay so the CR would have to reverse that. I doubt any dem would vote for it if it did.

Speaker Johnson talked about it today. We live in an authoritarian and lawless government now, so CR's and what not are quaint.

So to recap, Democrats weaponized the TSA to harass Tulsi Gabbard and Republican Congressmen and we just learned the FBI was spying on eight Republican senators… but something something Trump is an authoritarian?

Nope. Get your facts straight. Then come back to us.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Now that the GOP is floating that federal employees (including military) won't get back pay, the sick-outs will start in earnest. I truly hope the ATC nationwide, do a single day, en masse, to end this crap now.

The existing law requires back pay so the CR would have to reverse that. I doubt any dem would vote for it if it did.

Speaker Johnson talked about it today. We live in an authoritarian and lawless government now, so CR's and what not are quaint.

So to recap, Democrats weaponized the TSA to harass Tulsi Gabbard and Republican Congressmen and we just learned the FBI was spying on eight Republican senators… but something something Trump is an authoritarian?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Now that the GOP is floating that federal employees (including military) won't get back pay, the sick-outs will start in earnest. I truly hope the ATC nationwide, do a single day, en masse, to end this crap now.

The existing law requires back pay so the CR would have to reverse that. I doubt any dem would vote for it if it did.

Speaker Johnson talked about it today. We live in an authoritarian and lawless government now, so CR's and what not are quaint.

How are the democrats supposed to negotiate with people who openly say they will not comply with whatever deal is agreed to?