Anonymous
08/26/2023 09:43
Subject: Biden wants RTO
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m actively seeking a private sector job with higher pay and less flexibility. I still think feds should have as much flexibility as a unit manager deems necessary to retain and attract talent. People talking about government as a monolith are beyond stupid.
This is what it comes down to.
Agreed. This thread has beaten into the ground that some people will leave, but it's fine we'll all be replaced, and if we're not someone else will soak up the workload and it won't be a big deal.
The issue seems to be having FEELINGS and OPINIONS about it on the internet. Gross, we are supposed to be silent automatons who come and go without doubting the wisdom of our leaders.
Anonymous
08/26/2023 09:29
Subject: Biden wants RTO
Anonymous wrote:I’m actively seeking a private sector job with higher pay and less flexibility. I still think feds should have as much flexibility as a unit manager deems necessary to retain and attract talent. People talking about government as a monolith are beyond stupid.
This is what it comes down to.
Anonymous
08/25/2023 18:58
Subject: Biden wants RTO
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Typically government agencies DO engage in some kind of policy analysis before changing things with regard to personnel. Because they have to make budget justifications to Congress. Anyway, looks like this fall is going to be interesting.
What you so ignorantly find “interesting” is cause for grave anxiety for the rest of us.
If the mere thought of showing up in person for your job causes you "grave anxiety" you are probably not very good at your job.
Hi, not the poster you’re replying to, and I’m not paralyzed with anxiety over this, but I will say—you’re a jerk. People have their reasons. Some of which include real financial stress. The government is probably going to shut down this fall. People are worried about that, about coming back to the office when they have already made childcare arrangements and schedules for the year, and about the next election cycle which isn’t fun for feds. Just leave them alone. I know many many wonderful people in government who work hard at a discount for zero thanks.
I'm the person you quoted and called a jerk -- and I'm also a fed who has worked hard, in person, throughout the pandemic (including the last shutdown) and dealt with all the same uncertainties. It's life. I've had to come in, and be flexible, and work extra long days during the lapse without pay, and I'm sick and tired of listening to other feds whine.
So find another job more suited to your emotional state. You sound like an envious person.
These two things are different:
1. Being envious of another person's situation.
2. Being annoyed when that person complains about that situation possibly changing.
LoL. You sound unhinged and should worry about yourself, not others.
What makes that unhinged? And are you yourself never annoyed by the behavior of others?
I’m in control of myself and my situation. No one’s complaining you are going into the office. You just sound petty.
Anonymous
08/25/2023 18:56
Subject: Biden wants RTO
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Typically government agencies DO engage in some kind of policy analysis before changing things with regard to personnel. Because they have to make budget justifications to Congress. Anyway, looks like this fall is going to be interesting.
What you so ignorantly find “interesting” is cause for grave anxiety for the rest of us.
If the mere thought of showing up in person for your job causes you "grave anxiety" you are probably not very good at your job.
Hi, not the poster you’re replying to, and I’m not paralyzed with anxiety over this, but I will say—you’re a jerk. People have their reasons. Some of which include real financial stress. The government is probably going to shut down this fall. People are worried about that, about coming back to the office when they have already made childcare arrangements and schedules for the year, and about the next election cycle which isn’t fun for feds. Just leave them alone. I know many many wonderful people in government who work hard at a discount for zero thanks.
I'm the person you quoted and called a jerk -- and I'm also a fed who has worked hard, in person, throughout the pandemic (including the last shutdown) and dealt with all the same uncertainties. It's life. I've had to come in, and be flexible, and work extra long days during the lapse without pay, and I'm sick and tired of listening to other feds whine.
Then get another job.
??? I'm not complaining about my job. I'm complaining about other feds who complain about having to come in to the office.
Yes you are. You are jealous of people who have jobs that can be done remotely? Go get one of those. Not their problem you hate your job conditions.
PP did not say they hated their job, at all.
Then why engage in comparisons? They chose a career that limited their options in one way for a reason. Same for others in other careers. Not all jobs are the same. If hearing people complain about their jobs makes the PP angry, they should think about why. I doesn’t make me angry to hear about people in other careers making more money or having more flexibility than I do. They made different choices.
You are conflating two things. The annoyance is the current complaints, not the fact that the other people at one point had, and may lose, certain work conditions.[/quote
Why does it bother you if people want things? I mean it’s just silly. They want something that you don’t have, and they might get it. That bugs you? Go get it.
It doesn't bother me that they want it. It bothers me when I have to hear them complain about it. Why is this hard to understand?
Do you like hearing constant complaints?
You don’t have to read this thread if it bothers you…. It doesn’t affect you.
Anonymous
08/25/2023 18:55
Subject: Biden wants RTO
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Typically government agencies DO engage in some kind of policy analysis before changing things with regard to personnel. Because they have to make budget justifications to Congress. Anyway, looks like this fall is going to be interesting.
What you so ignorantly find “interesting” is cause for grave anxiety for the rest of us.
If the mere thought of showing up in person for your job causes you "grave anxiety" you are probably not very good at your job.
Hi, not the poster you’re replying to, and I’m not paralyzed with anxiety over this, but I will say—you’re a jerk. People have their reasons. Some of which include real financial stress. The government is probably going to shut down this fall. People are worried about that, about coming back to the office when they have already made childcare arrangements and schedules for the year, and about the next election cycle which isn’t fun for feds. Just leave them alone. I know many many wonderful people in government who work hard at a discount for zero thanks.
I'm the person you quoted and called a jerk -- and I'm also a fed who has worked hard, in person, throughout the pandemic (including the last shutdown) and dealt with all the same uncertainties. It's life. I've had to come in, and be flexible, and work extra long days during the lapse without pay, and I'm sick and tired of listening to other feds whine.
So find another job more suited to your emotional state. You sound like an envious person.
These two things are different:
1. Being envious of another person's situation.
2. Being annoyed when that person complains about that situation possibly changing.
LoL. You sound unhinged and should worry about yourself, not others.
What makes that unhinged? And are you yourself never annoyed by the behavior of others?
You are trolling a thread full of people who are discussing something that has nothing to do with you. That IS a little odd.
Anonymous
08/25/2023 18:55
Subject: Biden wants RTO
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Typically government agencies DO engage in some kind of policy analysis before changing things with regard to personnel. Because they have to make budget justifications to Congress. Anyway, looks like this fall is going to be interesting.
What you so ignorantly find “interesting” is cause for grave anxiety for the rest of us.
If the mere thought of showing up in person for your job causes you "grave anxiety" you are probably not very good at your job.
Hi, not the poster you’re replying to, and I’m not paralyzed with anxiety over this, but I will say—you’re a jerk. People have their reasons. Some of which include real financial stress. The government is probably going to shut down this fall. People are worried about that, about coming back to the office when they have already made childcare arrangements and schedules for the year, and about the next election cycle which isn’t fun for feds. Just leave them alone. I know many many wonderful people in government who work hard at a discount for zero thanks.
I'm the person you quoted and called a jerk -- and I'm also a fed who has worked hard, in person, throughout the pandemic (including the last shutdown) and dealt with all the same uncertainties. It's life. I've had to come in, and be flexible, and work extra long days during the lapse without pay, and I'm sick and tired of listening to other feds whine.
Then get another job.
??? I'm not complaining about my job. I'm complaining about other feds who complain about having to come in to the office.
Yes you are. You are jealous of people who have jobs that can be done remotely? Go get one of those. Not their problem you hate your job conditions.
PP did not say they hated their job, at all.
Then why engage in comparisons? They chose a career that limited their options in one way for a reason. Same for others in other careers. Not all jobs are the same. If hearing people complain about their jobs makes the PP angry, they should think about why. I doesn’t make me angry to hear about people in other careers making more money or having more flexibility than I do. They made different choices.
You are conflating two things. The annoyance is the current complaints, not the fact that the other people at one point had, and may lose, certain work conditions.[/quote
Why does it bother you if people want things? I mean it’s just silly. They want something that you don’t have, and they might get it. That bugs you? Go get it.
It doesn't bother me that they want it. It bothers me when I have to hear them complain about it. Why is this hard to understand?
Do you like hearing constant complaints?
Anonymous
08/25/2023 18:54
Subject: Biden wants RTO
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Typically government agencies DO engage in some kind of policy analysis before changing things with regard to personnel. Because they have to make budget justifications to Congress. Anyway, looks like this fall is going to be interesting.
What you so ignorantly find “interesting” is cause for grave anxiety for the rest of us.
If the mere thought of showing up in person for your job causes you "grave anxiety" you are probably not very good at your job.
Hi, not the poster you’re replying to, and I’m not paralyzed with anxiety over this, but I will say—you’re a jerk. People have their reasons. Some of which include real financial stress. The government is probably going to shut down this fall. People are worried about that, about coming back to the office when they have already made childcare arrangements and schedules for the year, and about the next election cycle which isn’t fun for feds. Just leave them alone. I know many many wonderful people in government who work hard at a discount for zero thanks.
I'm the person you quoted and called a jerk -- and I'm also a fed who has worked hard, in person, throughout the pandemic (including the last shutdown) and dealt with all the same uncertainties. It's life. I've had to come in, and be flexible, and work extra long days during the lapse without pay, and I'm sick and tired of listening to other feds whine.
So find another job more suited to your emotional state. You sound like an envious person.
These two things are different:
1. Being envious of another person's situation.
2. Being annoyed when that person complains about that situation possibly changing.
LoL. You sound unhinged and should worry about yourself, not others.
What makes that unhinged? And are you yourself never annoyed by the behavior of others?
Anonymous
08/25/2023 18:46
Subject: Biden wants RTO
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Typically government agencies DO engage in some kind of policy analysis before changing things with regard to personnel. Because they have to make budget justifications to Congress. Anyway, looks like this fall is going to be interesting.
What you so ignorantly find “interesting” is cause for grave anxiety for the rest of us.
Grave anxiety? Why such high drama.
Anonymous
08/25/2023 18:39
Subject: Biden wants RTO
I’m actively seeking a private sector job with higher pay and less flexibility. I still think feds should have as much flexibility as a unit manager deems necessary to retain and attract talent. People talking about government as a monolith are beyond stupid.
Anonymous
08/25/2023 18:39
Subject: Biden wants RTO
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Typically government agencies DO engage in some kind of policy analysis before changing things with regard to personnel. Because they have to make budget justifications to Congress. Anyway, looks like this fall is going to be interesting.
What you so ignorantly find “interesting” is cause for grave anxiety for the rest of us.
If the mere thought of showing up in person for your job causes you "grave anxiety" you are probably not very good at your job.
Hi, not the poster you’re replying to, and I’m not paralyzed with anxiety over this, but I will say—you’re a jerk. People have their reasons. Some of which include real financial stress. The government is probably going to shut down this fall. People are worried about that, about coming back to the office when they have already made childcare arrangements and schedules for the year, and about the next election cycle which isn’t fun for feds. Just leave them alone. I know many many wonderful people in government who work hard at a discount for zero thanks.
I'm the person you quoted and called a jerk -- and I'm also a fed who has worked hard, in person, throughout the pandemic (including the last shutdown) and dealt with all the same uncertainties. It's life. I've had to come in, and be flexible, and work extra long days during the lapse without pay, and I'm sick and tired of listening to other feds whine.
So find another job more suited to your emotional state. You sound like an envious person.
These two things are different:
1. Being envious of another person's situation.
2. Being annoyed when that person complains about that situation possibly changing.
LoL. You sound unhinged and should worry about yourself, not others.
Anonymous
08/25/2023 18:35
Subject: Biden wants RTO
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Typically government agencies DO engage in some kind of policy analysis before changing things with regard to personnel. Because they have to make budget justifications to Congress. Anyway, looks like this fall is going to be interesting.
What you so ignorantly find “interesting” is cause for grave anxiety for the rest of us.
If the mere thought of showing up in person for your job causes you "grave anxiety" you are probably not very good at your job.
Hi, not the poster you’re replying to, and I’m not paralyzed with anxiety over this, but I will say—you’re a jerk. People have their reasons. Some of which include real financial stress. The government is probably going to shut down this fall. People are worried about that, about coming back to the office when they have already made childcare arrangements and schedules for the year, and about the next election cycle which isn’t fun for feds. Just leave them alone. I know many many wonderful people in government who work hard at a discount for zero thanks.
I'm the person you quoted and called a jerk -- and I'm also a fed who has worked hard, in person, throughout the pandemic (including the last shutdown) and dealt with all the same uncertainties. It's life. I've had to come in, and be flexible, and work extra long days during the lapse without pay, and I'm sick and tired of listening to other feds whine.
Then get another job.
??? I'm not complaining about my job. I'm complaining about other feds who complain about having to come in to the office.
Yes you are. You are jealous of people who have jobs that can be done remotely? Go get one of those. Not their problem you hate your job conditions.
PP did not say they hated their job, at all.
Then why engage in comparisons? They chose a career that limited their options in one way for a reason. Same for others in other careers. Not all jobs are the same. If hearing people complain about their jobs makes the PP angry, they should think about why. I doesn’t make me angry to hear about people in other careers making more money or having more flexibility than I do. They made different choices.
You are conflating two things. The annoyance is the current complaints, not the fact that the other people at one point had, and may lose, certain work conditions.[/quote
Why does it bother you if people want things? I mean it’s just silly. They want something that you don’t have, and they might get it. That bugs you? Go get it.
Anonymous
08/25/2023 18:33
Subject: Biden wants RTO
Anonymous wrote:.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Typically government agencies DO engage in some kind of policy analysis before changing things with regard to personnel. Because they have to make budget justifications to Congress. Anyway, looks like this fall is going to be interesting.
What you so ignorantly find “interesting” is cause for grave anxiety for the rest of us.
If the mere thought of showing up in person for your job causes you "grave anxiety" you are probably not very good at your job.
Hi, not the poster you’re replying to, and I’m not paralyzed with anxiety over this, but I will say—you’re a jerk. People have their reasons. Some of which include real financial stress. The government is probably going to shut down this fall. People are worried about that, about coming back to the office when they have already made childcare arrangements and schedules for the year, and about the next election cycle which isn’t fun for feds. Just leave them alone. I know many many wonderful people in government who work hard at a discount for zero thanks.
I'm the person you quoted and called a jerk -- and I'm also a fed who has worked hard, in person, throughout the pandemic (including the last shutdown) and dealt with all the same uncertainties. It's life. I've had to come in, and be flexible, and work extra long days during the lapse without pay, and I'm sick and tired of listening to other feds whine.
Then get another job.
??? I'm not complaining about my job. I'm complaining about other feds who complain about having to come in to the office.
Yes you are. You are jealous of people who have jobs that can be done remotely? Go get one of those. Not their problem you hate your job conditions.
PP did not say they hated their job, at all.
Then why engage in comparisons? They chose a career that limited their options in one way for a reason. Same for others in other careers. Not all jobs are the same. If hearing people complain about their jobs makes the PP angry, they should think about why. I doesn’t make me angry to hear about people in other careers making more money or having more flexibility than I do. They made different choices.
You are conflating two things. The annoyance is the current complaints, not the fact that the other people at one point had, and may lose, certain work conditions.
Anonymous
08/25/2023 18:31
Subject: Biden wants RTO
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Typically government agencies DO engage in some kind of policy analysis before changing things with regard to personnel. Because they have to make budget justifications to Congress. Anyway, looks like this fall is going to be interesting.
What you so ignorantly find “interesting” is cause for grave anxiety for the rest of us.
If the mere thought of showing up in person for your job causes you "grave anxiety" you are probably not very good at your job.
Hi, not the poster you’re replying to, and I’m not paralyzed with anxiety over this, but I will say—you’re a jerk. People have their reasons. Some of which include real financial stress. The government is probably going to shut down this fall. People are worried about that, about coming back to the office when they have already made childcare arrangements and schedules for the year, and about the next election cycle which isn’t fun for feds. Just leave them alone. I know many many wonderful people in government who work hard at a discount for zero thanks.
I'm the person you quoted and called a jerk -- and I'm also a fed who has worked hard, in person, throughout the pandemic (including the last shutdown) and dealt with all the same uncertainties. It's life. I've had to come in, and be flexible, and work extra long days during the lapse without pay, and I'm sick and tired of listening to other feds whine.
So find another job more suited to your emotional state. You sound like an envious person.
These two things are different:
1. Being envious of another person's situation.
2. Being annoyed when that person complains about that situation possibly changing.
Anonymous
08/25/2023 18:29
Subject: Biden wants RTO
It's weird how much the anti-RTO people shout down about how people who don't like it when others WFH should just get WFH jobs (doesn't solve my problem of WFH causing me workflow issues) all while WFH is burning down. "Screaming into the abyss" comes to mind.
Anonymous
08/25/2023 18:28
Subject: Biden wants RTO
.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Typically government agencies DO engage in some kind of policy analysis before changing things with regard to personnel. Because they have to make budget justifications to Congress. Anyway, looks like this fall is going to be interesting.
What you so ignorantly find “interesting” is cause for grave anxiety for the rest of us.
If the mere thought of showing up in person for your job causes you "grave anxiety" you are probably not very good at your job.
Hi, not the poster you’re replying to, and I’m not paralyzed with anxiety over this, but I will say—you’re a jerk. People have their reasons. Some of which include real financial stress. The government is probably going to shut down this fall. People are worried about that, about coming back to the office when they have already made childcare arrangements and schedules for the year, and about the next election cycle which isn’t fun for feds. Just leave them alone. I know many many wonderful people in government who work hard at a discount for zero thanks.
I'm the person you quoted and called a jerk -- and I'm also a fed who has worked hard, in person, throughout the pandemic (including the last shutdown) and dealt with all the same uncertainties. It's life. I've had to come in, and be flexible, and work extra long days during the lapse without pay, and I'm sick and tired of listening to other feds whine.
Then get another job.
??? I'm not complaining about my job. I'm complaining about other feds who complain about having to come in to the office.
Yes you are. You are jealous of people who have jobs that can be done remotely? Go get one of those. Not their problem you hate your job conditions.
PP did not say they hated their job, at all.
Then why engage in comparisons? They chose a career that limited their options in one way for a reason. Same for others in other careers. Not all jobs are the same. If hearing people complain about their jobs makes the PP angry, they should think about why. I doesn’t make me angry to hear about people in other careers making more money or having more flexibility than I do. They made different choices.