Anonymous
Post 05/03/2022 17:31     Subject: Re:“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft

Anonymous wrote:

Keep your legs closed and it's not a problem


Keep your pecker in your pants and it's not a problem. Better yet, force men to get vasectomies. Problem solved.
Anonymous
Post 05/03/2022 17:31     Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft

Anonymous wrote:Can't planned parenthood just cover the flights + hotels for women to go have abortions in blue states?


What about their lost wages for time away from work? Cost of a multi-day sitter for any other children they may have? And what if their employer won’t give them multiple days off to travel?
Anonymous
Post 05/03/2022 17:31     Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can't planned parenthood just cover the flights + hotels for women to go have abortions in blue states?


I think this could be a key effort. Setup PP clinics for women in red states, fly them first class to blue states, and put them up at the Ritz.


Conservative here. I’m good with this as long as PP does not take tax payer dollars. They can do whatever they want with private donations.
Anonymous
Post 05/03/2022 17:30     Subject: Re:“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft

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Anonymous wrote:Also, raise child support payments to include full time salary while a woman is home with her " forced birth baby" for the first 18 months of life- so men pay the woman's salary plus essentials for the baby and RENT

In DC , that should be about $2,500 for rent plus $1,000 for food plus $600 month for health insurance , plus more for supplemental day care ( $1800 mos ) FOR EACh and EVERY Forced Birth= about $6,000 a month every man in DC has to pay a woman who is FORCED to have " his baby"

And , of course, for 18 YEARS


Keep your legs closed and it's not a problem


That's exactly the idea: No More Sex
Anonymous
Post 05/03/2022 17:30     Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft

Anonymous wrote:I love our people are upset with the ScOTUS violation of privacy. As if that judicial body deserves more privacy than a person

The illegitimate court already decreed that businesses are people, so they probably think that SCOTUS is also a person.

It’s obviously another right wing hatchet job in releasing this. The impact would have been much greater in the summer.
Anonymous
Post 05/03/2022 17:29     Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can't planned parenthood just cover the flights + hotels for women to go have abortions in blue states?


I think this could be a key effort. Setup PP clinics for women in red states, fly them first class to blue states, and put them up at the Ritz.


Y’all. No, they can’t in many states. Aiding abortion would be a crime. Do you all really think people haven’t thought of this?
Anonymous
Post 05/03/2022 17:28     Subject: Re:“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Also, raise child support payments to include full time salary while a woman is home with her " forced birth baby" for the first 18 months of life- so men pay the woman's salary plus essentials for the baby and RENT

In DC , that should be about $2,500 for rent plus $1,000 for food plus $600 month for health insurance , plus more for supplemental day care ( $1800 mos ) FOR EACh and EVERY Forced Birth= about $6,000 a month every man in DC has to pay a woman who is FORCED to have " his baby"

And , of course, for 18 YEARS


Keep your legs closed and it's not a problem


Rape, incest, threats to life of the mother at 30 weeks.....

It's like you purposely can't conceive of real life events that happen where a woman needs an abortion.
Anonymous
Post 05/03/2022 17:28     Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft

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Anonymous wrote:So do women not get the right to life anymore?. Last I heard it was in the Constitution and I shouldn't have to give up my life to bring another one into this world


Are you serious? It's not in the Constitution. It's in the Declaration of Independence.


It is in the Constitution, though.

“No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”


So make a law at the federal level

Again, what makes you think this court wouldn’t invalidate that law?


Make sure it follows constitutional guidelines and they won’t


I am curious, under what power would the federal government be able to regulate abortions?


Exactly my point. Roe vs Wade was bad from the start because it never WAS a Fed power.
Anonymous
Post 05/03/2022 17:28     Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft

Anonymous wrote:So no response on what if the woman wants to give up full custody of the embryo. I feel that The father should have to pay to incubate it somewhere, whether that be a medical lab or a another woman, a surrogate whoever they want. So instead of terminating the pregnancy it can just be moved somewhere else at his expense.


Probably into a poor Ukrainian surrogate. But I think the technology doesn’t exist to transplant a fetus. I share your anger.

How much money would be saved if insurance companies and Medicare drug plans no longer paid for the blue pill? It’s not medically vital. It doesn’t save any life. If an impotent man needs to reproduce the doctor can do a needle extraction of sperm. Oh is that violating someone’s privacy?
Anonymous
Post 05/03/2022 17:27     Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So no response on what if the woman wants to give up full custody of the embryo. I feel that The father should have to pay to incubate it somewhere, whether that be a medical lab or a another woman, a surrogate whoever they want. So instead of terminating the pregnancy it can just be moved somewhere else at his expense.


I'll agree to that as soon as a guy can decide to keep a baby the mother does not want and and force her to pay child support for 18 years. A guy has no say at the moment but can be forced to support an unwanted child, fair is fair

There was actually a Reddit thread about that not too long ago. Of course who knows if it was real, but in that piece the guy convinced/coerced the woman to give birth to a child she had absolutely no interest in bearing. She paid 125% of the required child support. FTR, he was whining about having to be the sole parent of a child he decided to be the sole parent of.

And you say “fair is fair” like single mothers aren’t doing all the heavy lifting, both emotional and economic, in child rearing. Take your MRA whining somewhere else.
Anonymous
Post 05/03/2022 17:27     Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can't planned parenthood just cover the flights + hotels for women to go have abortions in blue states?


I think this could be a key effort. Setup PP clinics for women in red states, fly them first class to blue states, and put them up at the Ritz.


Democrats should run with that at the top of their party platform. Free luxury vacation if you are willing to get pregnant and have an abortion.
Anonymous
Post 05/03/2022 17:26     Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So no response on what if the woman wants to give up full custody of the embryo. I feel that The father should have to pay to incubate it somewhere, whether that be a medical lab or a another woman, a surrogate whoever they want. So instead of terminating the pregnancy it can just be moved somewhere else at his expense.


I'll agree to that as soon as a guy can decide to keep a baby the mother does not want and and force her to pay child support for 18 years. A guy has no say at the moment but can be forced to support an unwanted child, fair is fair


Both the bio mom and bio dad will be on the hook to support the child. GOP voters won’t want their taxes going towards supporting those new mouths.
Anonymous
Post 05/03/2022 17:24     Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft

Anonymous wrote:I love our people are upset with the ScOTUS violation of privacy. As if that judicial body deserves more privacy than a person


I don't think anyone has argued that. You are imagining things.
Anonymous
Post 05/03/2022 17:24     Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft

Anonymous wrote:Can't planned parenthood just cover the flights + hotels for women to go have abortions in blue states?


I think this could be a key effort. Setup PP clinics for women in red states, fly them first class to blue states, and put them up at the Ritz.
Anonymous
Post 05/03/2022 17:22     Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft

Anonymous wrote:In some face, it is your religious belief to follow medical advice such as in Orthodox Judaism. There are cases where due to medical reasons a woman is advised to get an abortion and that is sanctioned by her religion. So I could see some cases being brought before the court having to do with freedom of religion in that respect


Freedom of religion will not trump the right to life.