Anonymous
Post 03/20/2017 20:03     Subject: Re:This Is Us
I thought the fight was as realistic as any I've seen on television. Writing and acting were spot on.
Anonymous
Post 03/20/2017 19:56     Subject: This Is Us
Anonymous wrote:Am I the only one who found Rebecca to be self-centered and unlikeable? She wasn't forced to have kids. What man or woman who isn't already famous takes off on the road to sing while having kids at home and a spouse working full-time? It's not like she is military and had to go for work. She seems to have zero empathy for the fact while she works hard in the home, he works hard outside the home and he has made plenty of sacrifices. I have been married 15 years and did not relate to the fight at all. We hashed this stuff out BEFORE kids and made adjustments after. Yes, we still had to have a lot of negotiating, but we went into parenthood wanted to be very present parents so we had similar goals.


Rebecca was the one hesitant to have kids and then terrified of having triplets. Jack was ypthe one whose idea it was to adopt Randall and they showed rebecca really struggling with raising three kids and bonding to Randall. Then jacked worked a lot and went out drinking, leaving her the sole care giver for three young kids. Jack has his moments, but rebeccalost herself when she became a mom. Can understand her wanting to do something for herself after the kids were older. It is not like she went on the road when they were toddlers.

I actually totally get the fight. Plenty of people think they have hashed this crap out, only to find out they had no real idea what they got into.
Anonymous
Post 03/20/2017 12:24     Subject: This Is Us
What bugged me about the finale is that Jack and Rebecca look way too young in the scenes with the fight etc.
Jack should be around 50 according to the timeline and Rebecca 46.

I can sympathize with the Rebecca character, she's kind of having a midlife crisis.

Anonymous
Post 03/16/2017 13:08     Subject: Re:This Is Us
Anonymous wrote:I'm kind of pleased that the season went out on a somewhat downer note and one that didn't hinge on a shocker twist. The fight between Jack and Rebecca felt very real to me, so much so that while I was sad to see it, it hit home for rougher patches we had ourselves. So it wasn't a teak-jerker for me but a "Wow, even Jack and Rebecca get to this point" reaction. I also think that the last brief scenes with each of their three kids as adults approaching their own crossroads is fed by what happened in the past.


I totally agree. It felt like the necessary balance to some of the preciousness of the last few episodes. (And I loved, loved loved the last two with William.) The show needed that little bit of grit. I also think tackling Jack's death right on top of William's death would have lessened the impact. It's hard to imagine anything more beautiful and moving than the Memphis episode.
Anonymous
Post 03/15/2017 23:04     Subject: This Is Us
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Am I the only one who found Rebecca to be self-centered and unlikeable? She wasn't forced to have kids. What man or woman who isn't already famous takes off on the road to sing while having kids at home and a spouse working full-time? It's not like she is military and had to go for work. She seems to have zero empathy for the fact while she works hard in the home, he works hard outside the home and he has made plenty of sacrifices. I have been married 15 years and did not relate to the fight at all. We hashed this stuff out BEFORE kids and made adjustments after. Yes, we still had to have a lot of negotiating, but we went into parenthood wanted to be very present parents so we had similar goals.


I see what you're saying and agree somewhat. On the other hand, she had spent 15 years at home, taking care of everyone's needs, being a present mom and wife. She finally had an opportunity to do something she had always yearned to do, and she decided to take it. The tour wasn't supposed to be more than a couple of months long (I think?) and their kids were old enough to be ok temporarily with just their dad. I thought it was great that she had decided to do it. I've been a SAHM for about the same amount of time and feel incredibly fortunate to have had this opportunity; I wouldn't trade it for the world, and I'm sure she wouldn't have either. But I don't see anything wrong with her jumping at the chance to do something for her for the first time in a very long time.


I think the tour was only 2 weeks.
Anonymous
Post 03/15/2017 22:23     Subject: This Is Us
Anonymous wrote:As a SAHM I can relate to her feelings of having lost her identity. But I think women do this to themselves. It's not done to them by their families. A lot of women. Me included. Become martyr moms and put their needs and wants last. Then they wake up one day and say wait a minute! What about me. They are mostly angry at themselves. And sad about the impending empty nest. That's me.
I could relate to her anger except she has such a loving and doting and involved husband in Jack. I have a husband who provides and works hard but genuinely prefers work time over family time and is very selfish. I could hear myself saying a lot of what she was saying. I'd trade my husband for Jack any day.


Ouch. PP, I'm sorry - your husband does sound selfish. I'm also a SAHM but have never felt like I'm a martyr at all and I'm certainly not angry at myself for deciding to take care of our kids myself. I guess I don't identify at all with what you're saying, especially as I'm fortunate to have a wonderful husband who loves coming home each day. That said, I do understand Rebecca's desire to temporarily explore a passion of hers and I don't find it selfish at all. I was wondering why she didn't put Jack in a hotel room, take his keys, and do the show - then deal with him afterwards. It's too bad she decided not to continue with the tour.
Anonymous
Post 03/15/2017 17:25     Subject: This Is Us
As a SAHM I can relate to her feelings of having lost her identity. But I think women do this to themselves. It's not done to them by their families. A lot of women. Me included. Become martyr moms and put their needs and wants last. Then they wake up one day and say wait a minute! What about me. They are mostly angry at themselves. And sad about the impending empty nest. That's me.
I could relate to her anger except she has such a loving and doting and involved husband in Jack. I have a husband who provides and works hard but genuinely prefers work time over family time and is very selfish. I could hear myself saying a lot of what she was saying. I'd trade my husband for Jack any day.
Anonymous
Post 03/15/2017 16:27     Subject: This Is Us
Anonymous wrote:Am I the only one who found Rebecca to be self-centered and unlikeable? She wasn't forced to have kids. What man or woman who isn't already famous takes off on the road to sing while having kids at home and a spouse working full-time? It's not like she is military and had to go for work. She seems to have zero empathy for the fact while she works hard in the home, he works hard outside the home and he has made plenty of sacrifices. I have been married 15 years and did not relate to the fight at all. We hashed this stuff out BEFORE kids and made adjustments after. Yes, we still had to have a lot of negotiating, but we went into parenthood wanted to be very present parents so we had similar goals.


I see what you're saying and agree somewhat. On the other hand, she had spent 15 years at home, taking care of everyone's needs, being a present mom and wife. She finally had an opportunity to do something she had always yearned to do, and she decided to take it. The tour wasn't supposed to be more than a couple of months long (I think?) and their kids were old enough to be ok temporarily with just their dad. I thought it was great that she had decided to do it. I've been a SAHM for about the same amount of time and feel incredibly fortunate to have had this opportunity; I wouldn't trade it for the world, and I'm sure she wouldn't have either. But I don't see anything wrong with her jumping at the chance to do something for her for the first time in a very long time.
Anonymous
Post 03/15/2017 16:20     Subject: Re:This Is Us
Anonymous wrote:I'm kind of pleased that the season went out on a somewhat downer note and one that didn't hinge on a shocker twist. The fight between Jack and Rebecca felt very real to me, so much so that while I was sad to see it, it hit home for rougher patches we had ourselves. So it wasn't a teak-jerker for me but a "Wow, even Jack and Rebecca get to this point" reaction. I also think that the last brief scenes with each of their three kids as adults approaching their own crossroads is fed by what happened in the past.


I agree. Maybe I'm in the minority, but I thought this episode was really well constructed. Showing the three adult kids and what they planned to do in their futures, and the way in which Jack first meets Rebecca. That last one in particular blew me away. I loved the way he was right on the brink of doing something that could have ruined him forever, and then he sees her singing. She was his "big break," as he put it.

This show has some things that bug me, but it always redeems itself in the last ten or so minutes, when they cleverly pull things together.
Anonymous
Post 03/15/2017 16:17     Subject: This Is Us
Anonymous wrote:So Randall's father fell into addiction once he got involved with Randall's mom and the adoptive dad fell into alcoholism due to pain from the mom. I don't like Rebecca right now, but I also hate how the women are the least likeable characters other than Randall's wife who is awesome.


Sorry, I don't understand your line of thinking. What on earth did Rebecca do? She wasn't the "cause" of Jack's return to drinking. People aren't to blame for others' poor choices.
Anonymous
Post 03/15/2017 16:15     Subject: This Is Us
Anonymous wrote:the most pathetic example of the decline of American culture


What are you talking about?
Anonymous
Post 03/15/2017 16:10     Subject: This Is Us
Anonymous wrote:One more thing I noticed. They were 36 when they became parents right? didn't he refer to her or she referred to herself as a 40 year old singer? That would make the kids 4 not teenagers.

I just really have a problem with the fact jack seems like the greatest guy and Rebecca so far is seeming like a jerk. I would like to see more complexity. I want to like Rebecca too. The only female I like in the show right now is Russel
s wife.


Jack was 36. Rebecca was 30 - I think she said it in the Super Bowl episode. I think Jack meant to say 40-something but in anger we sometimes say the wrong thing. Rebecca's 45 or thereabouts. Jack is over 50 as of the last scene. I like Rebecca. I feel like she has to carry the load a lot and Jack gets glorified by their kids for his grand gestures and she gets overlooked.
Anonymous
Post 03/15/2017 16:08     Subject: This Is Us
I hate Rebecca more and more with every episode. Jack was a doting husband and she was a selfish, entitled brat.
Anonymous
Post 03/15/2017 16:07     Subject: This Is Us
One more thing I noticed. They were 36 when they became parents right? didn't he refer to her or she referred to herself as a 40 year old singer? That would make the kids 4 not teenagers.

I just really have a problem with the fact jack seems like the greatest guy and Rebecca so far is seeming like a jerk. I would like to see more complexity. I want to like Rebecca too. The only female I like in the show right now is Russel
s wife.
Anonymous
Post 03/15/2017 16:02     Subject: This Is Us
Am I the only one who found Rebecca to be self-centered and unlikeable? She wasn't forced to have kids. What man or woman who isn't already famous takes off on the road to sing while having kids at home and a spouse working full-time? It's not like she is military and had to go for work. She seems to have zero empathy for the fact while she works hard in the home, he works hard outside the home and he has made plenty of sacrifices. I have been married 15 years and did not relate to the fight at all. We hashed this stuff out BEFORE kids and made adjustments after. Yes, we still had to have a lot of negotiating, but we went into parenthood wanted to be very present parents so we had similar goals.