Anonymous wrote:Common Core is ruining our system of education. Period.

LOL! yea, because our education system was so great before... must be why we rank so low in international tests and why American adults suck at math compared to even some developing countries.

Anonymous wrote:Do you know who benefits the most from Common Core?
Publishing companies.

Now, take a few minutes and go research who wrote the common core standards.

So because publishing companies are benefiting from CC standards, therefore we shouldn't have such standards? What does it matter if a publishing company is benefiting from new standards? Would you argue this point if the standards were great? Probably not. You are just arguing it because you don't like the standards. That's not a good reason to argue against standards.

Anonymous wrote:

For another thing, Virginia and Maryland already had standards, before the Common Core standards. And Virginia has not adopted the Common Core standards. Do Virginia schools hold back students who don't meet the SOL standards? Did Maryland used to hold back students who didn't meet the standards Maryland had before adopting the Common Core standards? It's a school, school district, and state issue. It's not a Common Core issue.

Exactly. It is not going to solve the problem.

NP. I don't understand what you are arguing for? Are you saying we shouldn't have standards because it won't solve the issue of some kids not being able to meet standards no matter what? Common core standards were not developed to address the problem of some kids not being able to graduate. That problem was being addressed by NCLB testing, which was developed to make sure kids didn't move up a grade or graduate without being able to read at a certain level. NCLB came from Bush's administration.

CC standards were created to address the changing world and job market and because what we had previously wasn't working well as a whole in terms of how well US kids were being educated, especially in comparison to other countries.

Anonymous wrote:Common Core is ruining our system of education. Period.

Please go back and read the previous 72 pages in this thread. Then please come back and make a more specific comment.

Anonymous wrote:Do you know who benefits the most from Common Core?
Publishing companies.

Now, take a few minutes and go research who wrote the common core standards.

Publishing companies benefit from almost everything in education. If we got rid of everything in public education that publishing companies benefit from, there wouldn't be much left of public education.

Anonymous wrote:

For another thing, Virginia and Maryland already had standards, before the Common Core standards. And Virginia has not adopted the Common Core standards. Do Virginia schools hold back students who don't meet the SOL standards? Did Maryland used to hold back students who didn't meet the standards Maryland had before adopting the Common Core standards? It's a school, school district, and state issue. It's not a Common Core issue.

Exactly. It is not going to solve the problem.

Which problem? What is the problem, in your opinion? There are problems the Common Core standards will solve. There are also many problems the Common Core standards will not solve.

Common Core is ruining our system of education. Period.

Do you know who benefits the most from Common Core?
Publishing companies.

Now, take a few minutes and go research who wrote the common core standards.

For another thing, Virginia and Maryland already had standards, before the Common Core standards. And Virginia has not adopted the Common Core standards. Do Virginia schools hold back students who don't meet the SOL standards? Did Maryland used to hold back students who didn't meet the standards Maryland had before adopting the Common Core standards? It's a school, school district, and state issue. It's not a Common Core issue.

Exactly. It is not going to solve the problem.

Anonymous wrote:

Schools already don't let kids graduate if they don't meet standards. In Virginia, you have to pass SOL tests to get a diploma. In Maryland, you have to pass High School Assessment tests to get a diploma.

That question wasn't about graduation. It was about retention. Are you going to hold back a third grader who is not ready for fourth grade standards?

For one thing, if you were going to hold back a third-grader, you would hold the third-grader back for not meeting the third-grade standards.

For another thing, Virginia and Maryland already had standards, before the Common Core standards. And Virginia has not adopted the Common Core standards. Do Virginia schools hold back students who don't meet the SOL standards? Did Maryland used to hold back students who didn't meet the standards Maryland had before adopting the Common Core standards? It's a school, school district, and state issue. It's not a Common Core issue.

Anonymous wrote:

Without coherent and consistent standards, without accountability, we've failed to educate children by the millions.

No. That's not the reason for failure. Go down into the projects and teach Kindergarten.

That problem is not going to go away just because we don't have standards. Before we had accountability (standardized tests), kids that couldn't read were allowed to move up a grade and graduate HS. The standardized tests are there to make sure this doesn't happen anymore.

Is the fourth grade teacher expected to have the child ready for fifth grade standards by the end of the year? How are the standards going to be used?

Schools already don't let kids graduate if they don't meet standards. In Virginia, you have to pass SOL tests to get a diploma. In Maryland, you have to pass High School Assessment tests to get a diploma.

That question wasn't about graduation. It was about retention. Are you going to hold back a third grader who is not ready for fourth grade standards?

Anonymous wrote:

Without coherent and consistent standards, without accountability, we've failed to educate children by the millions.

No. That's not the reason for failure. Go down into the projects and teach Kindergarten.

It's not just kids in "the projects" whose education is inadequate.

There are lots and lots of different issues in the American public education system. Certainly poverty is one of them. But it's not the only one. The Common Core standards do not fix the problem of poverty, but they do fix the problem of low and inconsistent standards.

Anonymous wrote:Are schools going to start holding kids back if they don't meet the standards? What are they going to do about it?

Schools already don't let kids graduate if they don't meet standards. In Virginia, you have to pass SOL tests to get a diploma. In Maryland, you have to pass High School Assessment tests to get a diploma.