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Anonymous wrote:Dems are so funny. Do you have anything to say other than snarky personal attacks?

+1. I love how they are using gay and religion as pejoratives when it suits their theme.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't agree with the political positions I have read that Vance has and I haven't really followed his political career, but I do not understand at all the angst against his book. I have read it twice after my spouse gave it to me because he thought I would resonate as I grew up under similar circumstances.

His book is not about hill people or people from Appalachia. It never made any of those claims. His book is about generational trauma and how the cycle is repeating itself among 3 generations and how he is trying to break it. It is about how hard it is to break free, the guilt, the struggle and how society punishes you, through no fault of your own, if you come from a family like that.

I was raised in an environment like this. I suffered then and I suffer now. To dismiss a person's experience of being physically abused, having a parent who has repeated substance abuse problems, for being guilted into not telling because "SECRETS", is wrong. Why are people twisting themselves into a pretzel to claim he's a fraud? You think this stuff doesn't legitimately happen, in every city in this country?

+100
They are spinning in circles to discredit him because they're fools, because they feel threatened that Biden won't win, and most importantly, because they're not nice people.

He already said he would have thrown out our votes unlike Mike pence. Talk about not nice people. That is traitorous.

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Anonymous wrote:Just dumb poor white trash from Appalachia who enlisted on a whim as a teen during a hot war and gets the cushiest desk post there is. What are the odds.

There are no “desk jobs” for lower enlisted Marines on deployment.

I suggest those of you trashing his four-year military service read this. No, he did not see combat - as he VERY CLEARLY states in this piece. He did, however, learn a lot of very valuable lessons that it appears many of you have never learned.

https://www.stripes.com/theaters/us/2024-07-16/vance-trump-marines-vice-president-republicans-14505177.html

he learned how to be an adult. God help us.
My kid was shot at in Afghanistan. I think he learned some lessons too.

Anonymous wrote:Do we actually know if she’s Brahmin

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Anonymous wrote:Catholicism is a curious choice if he only recently converted. Many evangelicals are still strangely suspicious of Catholics, and there are a lot of rules and formality. Easier to be caught in gotcha moments.

He explained his road to conversion here:

https://thelampmagazine.com/blog/how-i-joined-the-resistance

Wow, that was beautifully written and so interesting. Clearly, he put in years of thought and inner debate about religion. Interesting passages about his wife, too.

"There was a concern that it would be unfair to my wife: she hadn’t married a Catholic, and I felt like I was throwing her into it. But from the beginning, she supported my decision, so I can’t blame the delay on her.

My wife has said that the business of converting to Catholicism—studying and thinking about it—was “good for you.” And I came, eventually, to see that she was right, at least in some cosmic sense. I realized that there was a part of me—the best part—that took its cues from Catholicism. It was the part of me that demanded that I treat my son with patience, and made me feel terrible when I failed. That demanded that I moderate my temper with everyone, but especially my family. That demanded that I care more about how I rated as a husband and father than as an income earner. That demanded that I sacrifice professional prestige for the interests of family. That demanded that I let go of grudges, and forgive even those who wronged me."

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Anonymous wrote:Catholicism is a curious choice if he only recently converted. Many evangelicals are still strangely suspicious of Catholics, and there are a lot of rules and formality. Easier to be caught in gotcha moments.

He explained his road to conversion here:

https://thelampmagazine.com/blog/how-i-joined-the-resistance

Wow, that was beautifully written and so interesting. Clearly, he put in years of thought and inner debate about religion. Interesting passages about his wife, too.

"There was a concern that it would be unfair to my wife: she hadn’t married a Catholic, and I felt like I was throwing her into it. But from the beginning, she supported my decision, so I can’t blame the delay on her.

My wife has said that the business of converting to Catholicism—studying and thinking about it—was “good for you.” And I came, eventually, to see that she was right, at least in some cosmic sense. I realized that there was a part of me—the best part—that took its cues from Catholicism. It was the part of me that demanded that I treat my son with patience, and made me feel terrible when I failed. That demanded that I moderate my temper with everyone, but especially my family. That demanded that I care more about how I rated as a husband and father than as an income earner. That demanded that I sacrifice professional prestige for the interests of family. That demanded that I let go of grudges, and forgive even those who wronged me."

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Anonymous wrote:Catholicism is a curious choice if he only recently converted. Many evangelicals are still strangely suspicious of Catholics, and there are a lot of rules and formality. Easier to be caught in gotcha moments.

He explained his road to conversion here:

https://thelampmagazine.com/blog/how-i-joined-the-resistance

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Anonymous wrote:The other weird thing about his wife being Hindu - not that I believe it but Catholics do - is that there is no way you would let your spouse, who you presume to love, risk burning in eternity by worshipping false gods. If you truly believed Catholicism was the only way to Heaven, you'd be getting her into your faith ASAP.

It would be one thing if she was Episcopalian or Lutheran. She worships completely different gods than Catholics. Multiple gods. It is completely invalid in the eyes of Rome.

Don't vote for him if you can't tolerate his marriage to a Hindu. My list of reasons to not vote for him is long but it does include that one. But if that is it for you, so be it.

Girl, be so for real. He could be married to my Episcopalian sister and I wouldn't vote for him.

I'm not saying his marriage to a Hindu is a reason to not vote for him. I'm saying it's evidence that he's not serious about being Catholic and that his conversion was for electoral purposes.

Please try to keep up with the thread.

DP. Are you the moron telling others to "keep up" when you yourself seem like the most ignorant person on this thread? You clearly know nothing about 1) religion or 2) respectful, equal marriages. I suggest you do some research.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't agree with the political positions I have read that Vance has and I haven't really followed his political career, but I do not understand at all the angst against his book. I have read it twice after my spouse gave it to me because he thought I would resonate as I grew up under similar circumstances.

His book is not about hill people or people from Appalachia. It never made any of those claims. His book is about generational trauma and how the cycle is repeating itself among 3 generations and how he is trying to break it. It is about how hard it is to break free, the guilt, the struggle and how society punishes you, through no fault of your own, if you come from a family like that.

I was raised in an environment like this. I suffered then and I suffer now. To dismiss a person's experience of being physically abused, having a parent who has repeated substance abuse problems, for being guilted into not telling because "SECRETS", is wrong. Why are people twisting themselves into a pretzel to claim he's a fraud? You think this stuff doesn't legitimately happen, in every city in this country?

+100
They are spinning in circles to discredit him because they're fools, because they feel threatened that Biden won't win, and most importantly, because they're not nice people.

Anonymous wrote:I don't agree with the political positions I have read that Vance has and I haven't really followed his political career, but I do not understand at all the angst against his book. I have read it twice after my spouse gave it to me because he thought I would resonate as I grew up under similar circumstances.

His book is not about hill people or people from Appalachia. It never made any of those claims. His book is about generational trauma and how the cycle is repeating itself among 3 generations and how he is trying to break it. It is about how hard it is to break free, the guilt, the struggle and how society punishes you, through no fault of your own, if you come from a family like that.

I was raised in an environment like this. I suffered then and I suffer now. To dismiss a person's experience of being physically abused, having a parent who has repeated substance abuse problems, for being guilted into not telling because "SECRETS", is wrong. Why are people twisting themselves into a pretzel to claim he's a fraud? You think this stuff doesn't legitimately happen, in every city in this country?

Anonymous wrote:I know Vance infamously lives in Delray but does his family live here, too? Or do they live in Ohio.

What church do they attend in Alexandria?

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Anonymous wrote:Ha ha ha ha!

Wow this is really vile.

Ah well. It's vile but JD has said some vile things himself. I don't feel too bad for Serena Vance having to field some vile comments.

Anonymous wrote:All you speculating about his conversion being fake because his wife hasn't converted, do you realize that perhaps she has a mind of her own? He could wish and pray all he wants for him to convert but he can't force her and he isn't going to divorce her over it. Sometimes these things take time. Couples can and do end up in the same church eventually but everyone has their own timeline, if at all. You all have no idea what conversations go on in that family regarding religion.