Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
If she thinks it's fine for any public servant to walk out with hundreds upon hundreds of our country's most sensitive national security documents which are NOT Presidential records, which are documents that do not belong to him, but which belong to the government, and to conceal them, lie about them, to obstruct any investigation into them, to enlist others to lie about them - she is unfit to serve in government and is unfit to hold a military commission.
Presidential records? That has nothing to do with it.
U.S. Constitution - Article 2, Section 2.
Article II section 2 refers to the President, not to ex-presidents.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
If she thinks it's fine for any public servant to walk out with hundreds upon hundreds of our country's most sensitive national security documents which are NOT Presidential records, which are documents that do not belong to him, but which belong to the government, and to conceal them, lie about them, to obstruct any investigation into them, to enlist others to lie about them - she is unfit to serve in government and is unfit to hold a military commission.
Presidential records? That has nothing to do with it.
U.S. Constitution - Article 2, Section 2.
Anonymous wrote:
If she thinks it's fine for any public servant to walk out with hundreds upon hundreds of our country's most sensitive national security documents which are NOT Presidential records, which are documents that do not belong to him, but which belong to the government, and to conceal them, lie about them, to obstruct any investigation into them, to enlist others to lie about them - she is unfit to serve in government and is unfit to hold a military commission.
Anonymous wrote:
If she thinks it's fine for any public servant to walk out with hundreds upon hundreds of our country's most sensitive national security documents which are NOT Presidential records, which are documents that do not belong to him, but which belong to the government, and to conceal them, lie about them, to obstruct any investigation into them, to enlist others to lie about them - she is unfit to serve in government and is unfit to hold a military commission.
Anonymous wrote:Good point, more wishful thinking on my part that they would all go to Russia and leave us alone.
Side note: guess what happened after the indictment?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The Florida indictment deliberately left out what happened to the documents when they went to Bedminster. And we know that Trump wasn't charged for mishandling all the Top Secret documents he took.
DOJ held back the Bedminster stuff so they could also charge Trump in New Jersey (especially for the conversation with Mark Meadows' book researchers), in case the Florida charges get tied up by Judge Cannon.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/06/trump-indictment-florida-new-jersey-classified/674393/
Yes, Trump’s disclosure of the document contents on the recorded conversation happened at Bedminster. What happens in New Jersey is prosecuted in New Jersey. Trump will be facing charges in multiple states and DC.
I don't think it works that way.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The Florida indictment deliberately left out what happened to the documents when they went to Bedminster. And we know that Trump wasn't charged for mishandling all the Top Secret documents he took.
DOJ held back the Bedminster stuff so they could also charge Trump in New Jersey (especially for the conversation with Mark Meadows' book researchers), in case the Florida charges get tied up by Judge Cannon.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/06/trump-indictment-florida-new-jersey-classified/674393/
I can't believe a judge is going to allow them to hold two separate trials without rolling them up.
I can't find the source, but I read they never found that attack plan document from Bedminster. That might be why there is no specific charge for the event. And the same could be true of the map. They may not be able to prove Trump ever had the documents. However his statement about what he is/isn't allowed to declassify is still useful when trying to prove his intent.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The Florida indictment deliberately left out what happened to the documents when they went to Bedminster. And we know that Trump wasn't charged for mishandling all the Top Secret documents he took.
DOJ held back the Bedminster stuff so they could also charge Trump in New Jersey (especially for the conversation with Mark Meadows' book researchers), in case the Florida charges get tied up by Judge Cannon.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/06/trump-indictment-florida-new-jersey-classified/674393/
I can't believe a judge is going to allow them to hold two separate trials without rolling them up.
I can't find the source, but I read they never found that attack plan document from Bedminster. That might be why there is no specific charge for the event. And the same could be true of the map. They may not be able to prove Trump ever had the documents. However his statement about what he is/isn't allowed to declassify is still useful when trying to prove his intent.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The Florida indictment deliberately left out what happened to the documents when they went to Bedminster. And we know that Trump wasn't charged for mishandling all the Top Secret documents he took.
DOJ held back the Bedminster stuff so they could also charge Trump in New Jersey (especially for the conversation with Mark Meadows' book researchers), in case the Florida charges get tied up by Judge Cannon.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/06/trump-indictment-florida-new-jersey-classified/674393/
Yes, Trump’s disclosure of the document contents on the recorded conversation happened at Bedminster. What happens in New Jersey is prosecuted in New Jersey. Trump will be facing charges in multiple states and DC.
I don't think it works that way.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The Florida indictment deliberately left out what happened to the documents when they went to Bedminster. And we know that Trump wasn't charged for mishandling all the Top Secret documents he took.
DOJ held back the Bedminster stuff so they could also charge Trump in New Jersey (especially for the conversation with Mark Meadows' book researchers), in case the Florida charges get tied up by Judge Cannon.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/06/trump-indictment-florida-new-jersey-classified/674393/
Yes, Trump’s disclosure of the document contents on the recorded conversation happened at Bedminster. What happens in New Jersey is prosecuted in New Jersey. Trump will be facing charges in multiple states and DC.