Anonymous
Post 05/20/2022 12:32     Subject: $7/gallon gas is coming

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Anonymous wrote:Gas leases available or being cancelled today do nothing for gas prices today.

The main issue is that Saudi Arabia is siding with the Russians against the US and the west.

Period.


THIS. Supply is politically constrained by Saudis/OPEC and then the Russian embargo. U.S. producers are still not back to pre-COVID capacity, but they are re-opening. Some are slow-walking it on purpose.

The issue as I see it is that the transition from fossils to green will be slow and take decades. Fossil industry will have a difficult time justifying 20-30 year investments when they know more and more will be invested in green tech and EVs. What we have is a market failure that will require the federal government to step-in and coordinate sufficient supply and investment for national security reasons.


Yep.

I guess I shouldn't be surprised given that 74 million people voted for Trump, but I'm constantly amazed at the sheer number of people who are operating under the assumption that presidents can control gas prices and inflation using knobs on their desk.

Simpletons have simplistic worldviews, I guess.


Your statement is ridiculous.

Presidents absolutely have an impact on gas prices AND inflation when they implement policies that are detrimental to economic growth AND spend money that we don't have.
Biden has done both.

And, then, the people in the top levels of his administration cannot even admit that gas prices are too high.


Look, one of the simpletons I was talking about.


When you can't defend your ideas, you name call. How predictable.
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2022 12:20     Subject: $7/gallon gas is coming

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Gas leases available or being cancelled today do nothing for gas prices today.

The main issue is that Saudi Arabia is siding with the Russians against the US and the west.

Period.


THIS. Supply is politically constrained by Saudis/OPEC and then the Russian embargo. U.S. producers are still not back to pre-COVID capacity, but they are re-opening. Some are slow-walking it on purpose.

The issue as I see it is that the transition from fossils to green will be slow and take decades. Fossil industry will have a difficult time justifying 20-30 year investments when they know more and more will be invested in green tech and EVs. What we have is a market failure that will require the federal government to step-in and coordinate sufficient supply and investment for national security reasons.


Yep.

I guess I shouldn't be surprised given that 74 million people voted for Trump, but I'm constantly amazed at the sheer number of people who are operating under the assumption that presidents can control gas prices and inflation using knobs on their desk.

Simpletons have simplistic worldviews, I guess.


Your statement is ridiculous.

Presidents absolutely have an impact on gas prices AND inflation when they implement policies that are detrimental to economic growth AND spend money that we don't have.
Biden has done both.

And, then, the people in the top levels of his administration cannot even admit that gas prices are too high.


Look, one of the simpletons I was talking about.
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2022 11:16     Subject: $7/gallon gas is coming

Anonymous wrote:The elite left want gas and oil prices to go up, up, up. They say it publicly from time to time. There is nothing wrong with that position. They should own it.


Find a quote for us, please
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2022 11:13     Subject: $7/gallon gas is coming

The elite left want gas and oil prices to go up, up, up. They say it publicly from time to time. There is nothing wrong with that position. They should own it.
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2022 11:08     Subject: $7/gallon gas is coming

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Gas leases available or being cancelled today do nothing for gas prices today.

The main issue is that Saudi Arabia is siding with the Russians against the US and the west.

Period.


THIS. Supply is politically constrained by Saudis/OPEC and then the Russian embargo. U.S. producers are still not back to pre-COVID capacity, but they are re-opening. Some are slow-walking it on purpose.

The issue as I see it is that the transition from fossils to green will be slow and take decades. Fossil industry will have a difficult time justifying 20-30 year investments when they know more and more will be invested in green tech and EVs. What we have is a market failure that will require the federal government to step-in and coordinate sufficient supply and investment for national security reasons.


Yep.

I guess I shouldn't be surprised given that 74 million people voted for Trump, but I'm constantly amazed at the sheer number of people who are operating under the assumption that presidents can control gas prices and inflation using knobs on their desk.

Simpletons have simplistic worldviews, I guess.


Your statement is ridiculous.

Presidents absolutely have an impact on gas prices AND inflation when they implement policies that are detrimental to economic growth AND spend money that we don't have.
Biden has done both.

And, then, the people in the top levels of his administration cannot even admit that gas prices are too high.
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2022 10:09     Subject: $7/gallon gas is coming

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Gas leases available or being cancelled today do nothing for gas prices today.

The main issue is that Saudi Arabia is siding with the Russians against the US and the west.

Period.


THIS. Supply is politically constrained by Saudis/OPEC and then the Russian embargo. U.S. producers are still not back to pre-COVID capacity, but they are re-opening. Some are slow-walking it on purpose.

The issue as I see it is that the transition from fossils to green will be slow and take decades. Fossil industry will have a difficult time justifying 20-30 year investments when they know more and more will be invested in green tech and EVs. What we have is a market failure that will require the federal government to step-in and coordinate sufficient supply and investment for national security reasons.


Yep.

I guess I shouldn't be surprised given that 74 million people voted for Trump, but I'm constantly amazed at the sheer number of people who are operating under the assumption that presidents can control gas prices and inflation using knobs on their desk.

Simpletons have simplistic worldviews, I guess.
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2022 10:00     Subject: $7/gallon gas is coming

Anonymous wrote:Gas leases available or being cancelled today do nothing for gas prices today.

The main issue is that Saudi Arabia is siding with the Russians against the US and the west.

Period.


THIS. Supply is politically constrained by Saudis/OPEC and then the Russian embargo. U.S. producers are still not back to pre-COVID capacity, but they are re-opening. Some are slow-walking it on purpose.

The issue as I see it is that the transition from fossils to green will be slow and take decades. Fossil industry will have a difficult time justifying 20-30 year investments when they know more and more will be invested in green tech and EVs. What we have is a market failure that will require the federal government to step-in and coordinate sufficient supply and investment for national security reasons.
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2022 09:40     Subject: $7/gallon gas is coming

Anonymous wrote:Oil gonna bust through $116 today, watch.
😬

Say good bye to all of those traveling plans when a flight to Disney world costs $2200 per ticket.


Yea for loser Republicans. You know us blue voters would pay $5000 a ticket so we don’t have to share the park with redneck Republican hicks right?
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2022 09:17     Subject: $7/gallon gas is coming

Gas leases available or being cancelled today do nothing for gas prices today.

The main issue is that Saudi Arabia is siding with the Russians against the US and the west.

Period.
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2022 09:15     Subject: Re:$7/gallon gas is coming

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Please read this analysis as to why this bill won't do anything. https://mishtalk.com/economics/gas-prices-hit-another-record-high-on-thursday-whats-biden-doing


Of course it won't do anything. Pelosi knows this. So do all the other Dems.
But, it helps advance the narrative they want out there that the record prices are due to "price gouging" when they have absolutely ZERO evidence that this is the case. They have to shift the blame.
We do have evidence that Biden took a plethora of actions days into his presidency that sent the message to oil and gas companies that he was essentially declaring war on them. Why would they produce more and invest more when they know they will only be penalized for doing so?
Biden WANTS higher gas prices. He believes it will help speed up the new green deal. As we have seen in the past year and a half, Biden's decisions and instincts have been all wrong.

Gas prices hit another record high today.

This was his interior dept. secretary just yesterday:




Anonymous
Post 05/20/2022 07:54     Subject: Re:$7/gallon gas is coming

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:


Please read this analysis as to why this bill won't do anything. https://mishtalk.com/economics/gas-prices-hit-another-record-high-on-thursday-whats-biden-doing


Oh I completely agree. Same with releasing the strategic oil reserve. Again there is little the Dems can do in the near term to address oil prices. However, short of pulling aid to Ukraine and letting Russia win, I don’t see what the R’s have to offer.
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2022 07:49     Subject: Re:$7/gallon gas is coming

Anonymous wrote:


Please read this analysis as to why this bill won't do anything. https://mishtalk.com/economics/gas-prices-hit-another-record-high-on-thursday-whats-biden-doing
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2022 07:47     Subject: Re:$7/gallon gas is coming

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Ah yes, the ole “quick pass a message..er, I mean bill…that will do nothing that we claim it will” move. Wowza no one saw that one coming! Surely people will think the party who passed the “oil and gas price gouging bill” has nothing to do with gas prices now! Good one dems, you’ll definitely win in November! If you cross your fingers really really hard.


What would have the Dems do? Really? Oil prices are through the roof because of the war in Ukraine. It’s a global market. The domestic market is still ramping up from the last crash. It takes times for oil companies to reopen wells that were closed because the price per barrel was below their profitability level. And inflation generally? Yeah it’s high and it sucks. But this isn’t all because of Biden. Admittedly his spending last year on the child tax credit fueled inflation than other countries but it’s not much higher than other countries. Let’s recall when he was trying to jumpstart the economy due to COVID and avoid a deflationary environment similar to the one following the Great Recession. It worked. Too well.

Build Back Better is dead. His spending plans outside of foreign aid to Ukraine are dead. So what would have him do? He doesn’t control market prices for oil or supply constraints due to COVID. Oh and get ready for higher food prices because of the Ukrainian war. Those wheat fields ain’t getting planted. It’s coming. But short of appeasing a dictator and the Fed raising rates, I don’t know what else you’d have him do. I’m a Dem and see the writing on the wall. It’s on his watch and the Dems are going to get destroyed this fall. However, I don’t see many easy solutions to these problems (and don’t for a sec think the Keystone Pipeline or the border are the reasons for high energy prices. That project was years away from being complete. Immigration would actually stabilize wages.)


More passing of the buck.

Why did he just last week cancel oil and gas lease sales in Alaska and the Gulf of Mexico?



The price of gas was rising steadily under Biden long before Putin invaded Ukraine.


I’m the PP. those lease sales won’t make a bit of difference. Years away from being able to profitably drill even if they find oil. It does not matter or have any impact on current or near term energy prices. What else would you have him do to bring down prices now? He doesn’t control a market where the price is set globally.
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2022 07:38     Subject: Re:$7/gallon gas is coming

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:


Ah yes, the ole “quick pass a message..er, I mean bill…that will do nothing that we claim it will” move. Wowza no one saw that one coming! Surely people will think the party who passed the “oil and gas price gouging bill” has nothing to do with gas prices now! Good one dems, you’ll definitely win in November! If you cross your fingers really really hard.


What would have the Dems do? Really? Oil prices are through the roof because of the war in Ukraine. It’s a global market. The domestic market is still ramping up from the last crash. It takes times for oil companies to reopen wells that were closed because the price per barrel was below their profitability level. And inflation generally? Yeah it’s high and it sucks. But this isn’t all because of Biden. Admittedly his spending last year on the child tax credit fueled inflation than other countries but it’s not much higher than other countries. Let’s recall when he was trying to jumpstart the economy due to COVID and avoid a deflationary environment similar to the one following the Great Recession. It worked. Too well.

Build Back Better is dead. His spending plans outside of foreign aid to Ukraine are dead. So what would have him do? He doesn’t control market prices for oil or supply constraints due to COVID. Oh and get ready for higher food prices because of the Ukrainian war. Those wheat fields ain’t getting planted. It’s coming. But short of appeasing a dictator and the Fed raising rates, I don’t know what else you’d have him do. I’m a Dem and see the writing on the wall. It’s on his watch and the Dems are going to get destroyed this fall. However, I don’t see many easy solutions to these problems (and don’t for a sec think the Keystone Pipeline or the border are the reasons for high energy prices. That project was years away from being complete. Immigration would actually stabilize wages.)


More passing of the buck.

Why did he just last week cancel oil and gas lease sales in Alaska and the Gulf of Mexico?



The price of gas was rising steadily under Biden long before Putin invaded Ukraine.
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2022 07:36     Subject: $7/gallon gas is coming

Anonymous wrote:Oil gonna bust through $116 today, watch.
😬

Say good bye to all of those traveling plans when a flight to Disney world costs $2200 per ticket.


Leftist daughter of a friend of mine who lives in Arlington is shocked, *shocked* at the price of airline tickets, bus tickets, etc to go up north for the 4th July. She doesn’t own a car because…environment and “gas is expensive anyway”. Does not link her vote to all this. Amazingly ignorant