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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why anyone is arguing that open window must mean intruder. If you weee in the home and staging a murder of course you would want to make it look like someone broke in.

Also, I'm seriously wondering if there are tons of rabid Ramsey defenders or just one or two people who can't fathom it. I don't know who did it but the "they loved her!" argument is so weak. Parents kill ALL THE TIME

Rabid? Seriously? Are you getting a little too invested?

I've made like three comments on this entire thread. Unlike the people who respond to every post with "it isn't the Ramsey's!" and provide no evidence.

I think people have provided many ideas that point away from the Ramseys. No one has any evidence but there is so much information available especially when suspicious people made suspicious statements themselves. I think people realize how much damage both the police and the press did to the case. All those images of that little girl in her pageant outfits turned people against Patsy. Those pageants were only a small portion of her life. Her kids probably had a more normal life than the kids of today who are dragged from activity to activity or play sports 365 days a year.

None of this is evidence. The evidence that there was no intruder is overwhelming.

Really?? How so? Seems like quite the opposite.

Parents don't talk to police for 5 months after initial interview.
No signs of intruder
Neighbors report lights on in house that night and people moving around
Patsy ,John, amd Burke all heard on 911 call recording, but parent later claim he was asleep.
Ramsey's also limited detectives access to Burke
Ramson note in Patsey's handwriting, written on pad left in house, asking for ransom equivalent to John Ramsey's non-public bonus.
As noted in ink above, no other case in history of ransom note and dead kid in house.
Ransom note was two and a half pages, typically aren't more than a page.
She was found wrapped in her favorite blanket Ina room that was basically hidden.
John Ramsey found her though others sea chef house. Plus more than I am too lazy to list.

Honestly, for me ithe tell tale sign was the parents refusal to cooperate with the investigation form very early on, no innocent parent would do that.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why anyone is arguing that open window must mean intruder. If you weee in the home and staging a murder of course you would want to make it look like someone broke in.

Also, I'm seriously wondering if there are tons of rabid Ramsey defenders or just one or two people who can't fathom it. I don't know who did it but the "they loved her!" argument is so weak. Parents kill ALL THE TIME

Rabid? Seriously? Are you getting a little too invested?

I've made like three comments on this entire thread. Unlike the people who respond to every post with "it isn't the Ramsey's!" and provide no evidence.

I think people have provided many ideas that point away from the Ramseys. No one has any evidence but there is so much information available especially when suspicious people made suspicious statements themselves. I think people realize how much damage both the police and the press did to the case. All those images of that little girl in her pageant outfits turned people against Patsy. Those pageants were only a small portion of her life. Her kids probably had a more normal life than the kids of today who are dragged from activity to activity or play sports 365 days a year.

None of this is evidence. The evidence that there was no intruder is overwhelming.

Really?? How so? Seems like quite the opposite.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why anyone is arguing that open window must mean intruder. If you weee in the home and staging a murder of course you would want to make it look like someone broke in.

Also, I'm seriously wondering if there are tons of rabid Ramsey defenders or just one or two people who can't fathom it. I don't know who did it but the "they loved her!" argument is so weak. Parents kill ALL THE TIME

Rabid? Seriously? Are you getting a little too invested?

I've made like three comments on this entire thread. Unlike the people who respond to every post with "it isn't the Ramsey's!" and provide no evidence.

I think people have provided many ideas that point away from the Ramseys. No one has any evidence but there is so much information available especially when suspicious people made suspicious statements themselves. I think people realize how much damage both the police and the press did to the case. All those images of that little girl in her pageant outfits turned people against Patsy. Those pageants were only a small portion of her life. Her kids probably had a more normal life than the kids of today who are dragged from activity to activity or play sports 365 days a year.

None of this is evidence. The evidence that there was no intruder is overwhelming.

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Anonymous wrote:A white male with privelege

So what?

It's the race troll. They show up on every topic. Just ignore

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YES!!! That's it....but I just seen that all of his comments were deleted? Do they usually do that?

Wow, I did not notice that. I know I read it before the comments were deleted.. I don't know if that's common.
When I was looking for it I did see an article saying that MB "Didn't know AMAs on reddit were public" but didn't read into it... that maybe explains the deletions.

A shame though, I remember it being really informative.

Some of his posts are still here:
http://extras.denverpost.com/jonbenetAMA.html

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YES!!! That's it....but I just seen that all of his comments were deleted? Do they usually do that?

Wow, I did not notice that. I know I read it before the comments were deleted.. I don't know if that's common.
When I was looking for it I did see an article saying that MB "Didn't know AMAs on reddit were public" but didn't read into it... that maybe explains the deletions.

A shame though, I remember it being really informative.

Anonymous wrote:A white male with privelege

So what?

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Anonymous wrote:Another odd thing. See below for some excerpts of the note. If this happened to me, I would be completely focused on getting the money together and dealing with the "kidnappers." It doesn't seem like this was a priority for the Ramseys.

"She is safe and unharmed and if you want her to see 1997, you… will withdraw $118,000… I will call you between 8 and 10 am tomorrow to instruct you on delivery. The delivery will be exhausting so I advise you to be rested. If we monitor you getting the money early, we might call you early to arrange an earlier delivery of the money and hence an earlier pickup of your daughter "

John Ramsey was on the phone with his banker getting the money together that morning. They all sat and waited for the phone to ring and it didn't.

PP here. I had never heard that before.

That is true.

YES!!! That's it....but I just seen that all of his comments were deleted? Do they usually do that?

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Anonymous wrote:Another odd thing. See below for some excerpts of the note. If this happened to me, I would be completely focused on getting the money together and dealing with the "kidnappers." It doesn't seem like this was a priority for the Ramseys.

"She is safe and unharmed and if you want her to see 1997, you… will withdraw $118,000… I will call you between 8 and 10 am tomorrow to instruct you on delivery. The delivery will be exhausting so I advise you to be rested. If we monitor you getting the money early, we might call you early to arrange an earlier delivery of the money and hence an earlier pickup of your daughter "

John Ramsey was on the phone with his banker getting the money together that morning. They all sat and waited for the phone to ring and it didn't.

PP here. I had never heard that before.

Yup - this was also mentioned in the A&E documentary and in the ID version

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I'm trying to do a search on reddit now, I can't remember the investigators name, but I'm searching for it!!! It was pretty lengthy, but very detailed....and sad...but very detailed on his (the investigator) findings, and how he believed? (to what I'm trying to remember, that JB was killed by her family....he stated many gruesome details, but after reading it all, it made more sense? Or a bigger picture and the puzzle then, seemed to fit together. I hope to find it, it was nice that he answered any question that was asked to him.

Is this it, Mark Beckner? https://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/2wowat/i_am_former_boulder_police_chief_mark_beckner_i/

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Anonymous wrote:They couldn't rule out Patsy OR Santa.

I'm not sure about this -- I think they did rule out Santa and his wife.

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Anonymous wrote:Another odd thing. See below for some excerpts of the note. If this happened to me, I would be completely focused on getting the money together and dealing with the "kidnappers." It doesn't seem like this was a priority for the Ramseys.

"She is safe and unharmed and if you want her to see 1997, you… will withdraw $118,000… I will call you between 8 and 10 am tomorrow to instruct you on delivery. The delivery will be exhausting so I advise you to be rested. If we monitor you getting the money early, we might call you early to arrange an earlier delivery of the money and hence an earlier pickup of your daughter "

John Ramsey was on the phone with his banker getting the money together that morning. They all sat and waited for the phone to ring and it didn't.

PP here. I had never heard that before.

I'm trying to do a search on reddit now, I can't remember the investigators name, but I'm searching for it!!! It was pretty lengthy, but very detailed....and sad...but very detailed on his (the investigator) findings, and how he believed? (to what I'm trying to remember, that JB was killed by her family....he stated many gruesome details, but after reading it all, it made more sense? Or a bigger picture and the puzzle then, seemed to fit together. I hope to find it, it was nice that he answered any question that was asked to him.