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Anonymous wrote:Well that child would have been eaten or drowned. It's plain irresponsible to let a 2 year old play near water unattended.

He wasn't unattended, and your victim blaming is disgusting.

The alligator isn't a perp, it's an animal. Leaving a child in or near water with being right there is a dangerous situation.

The child wasn't unattended.

How do you know? CNN says family was watching an outdoor movie.

I guess you could be right. but if the dad was able to get to the gator, he had to have been close to his kid.

CNN has gotten things wrong in the past by rushing to be the first to get the big scoop.

Local papers say dad was nearby, and that the boy was one foot away from the shore in ankle deep water.

Not foot deep water.

I trust the local sources to be more accurate than CNN and their stupid tragedy theme music.

Amen ^^^

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Anonymous wrote:Well that child would have been eaten or drowned. It's plain irresponsible to let a 2 year old play near water unattended.

He wasn't unattended, and your victim blaming is disgusting.

The alligator isn't a perp, it's an animal. Leaving a child in or near water with being right there is a dangerous situation.

Disney created the danger with an illusion of a safe little man made beach.

It's a murky-ass lake in the dark in FL. It's not like we're in another reality once we enter Disney. But, if it makes you feel any better, I'd bet my entire life savings that this family will get an incredibly handsome payment from Disney.

Let me guess.

A) you do not have kids

And

B) you have never stayed at an upscale Disney resort property.

I have a child and have stayed at many upscale resorts throughout the world. All regions have their challenges; it's my job to be aware of them. I would never assume any corporation in any country is going to watch out for my child more than I will.

But not the upscale Disney property resorts?

Because you sound like you have not and you do not know what you are talking about when you are blaming the parents.

What they did that night is exactly what hundreds, if not thousands of parents do every day at those Disney resorts as a direct result of the "magic" Disney works so hard to create at their resorts. That is why their signs were spread apart, did not indicate dangerous, aggressive gators in the water next to the shore line, and why they created beautiful beachfront recreation areas right on the water right around those lagoons, not at just the Polynesian but at all the lagoon front resorts. Dangerous animal signs interfere with the Disney created illusion and do not make everything feel like glitter and pixie dust.

Disney scheduled the nightime events on that waterfront area. Disney placed the chairs and cabanas near water they knew contained gators. Disney employees do not redirect guests away from that water, not the hundreds of guests letting their kids play at the edge or wading in the water, not during the day and not at night. Disney presents those beachfront sections as exactpy that, beaches, and they present them as safe by their actions, scheduled activities and lack of action when their many guests relax along that water area.

Disney does this because it is part of the very carefully crafted storyline they fill guests with from the momement they step on the Magic express bus to their hotel greeters, mouse shaped towles on the pillow at night, and their beautiful hotels with beautifully relaxing white sand beaches and beachfront cabanas.

People.posting who are from Florida all keep saying EVERYONE in Florida knows basic gator safety. Well, since they fire so many Americans in recent years, many Disney employees are NOT from Florida. They might not know the danger the gators pose. They might not be from countries where gator habits and gator safety are even a blip on the radar. They might see gators as intersting oddities, and might not have any understanding of their risks because they are also not from Florida.

Disney deserves blame for this. They should have posted gator signs along their waterways. They should have instructed their employees to redirect guests who come from all over the world away from being at the waters edge instesd of instructing them to look the other way so as not to disturb the "magic." And they should have been running PSAs every ten minutes or so in that damn Disney infomercial that runs around the clock on their hotel room TVs.

Having stayed at those waterfront resorts, I never in a million years would have thougt those Disney beaches and waterfront are unsafe and filled with gators. I am aware they are there in Flroda but my assumption was that disney has some sort of barrier in the water not far from shore at those specific beaches which Disney presents as being so safe and perfect for evening relaxing.

They create the illusion as being the ultimate and safest place to vacation with children, the most magic place on earth, where everyone can relax, let their guard down and just be a kid. Everything they do, every minute detail they work so hard to create, is centered on that image of "magic" for guests staying on property and especially in the upscale resorts.

They knew those waters had alligators. They scheduled night events on the water at all of those beaches, knowing there were alligators feeding at night. And they did not post signs letting people.know they might encounter alligators in that exact water and on that beach they scheduled nightly events on.

I guess gator infested water and alligator warning to guests just interfered too much with the Disney resort magic.

This discussion is very interesting to me. I am willing to bet that if these parents had been young and low/middle-low income, there would be a lot more criticism from DCUM.

Because the parents are older and more financially stable, you see yourselves in them and, therefore, they are given more credit.

Just an observation. Carry on...

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Anonymous wrote:Well that child would have been eaten or drowned. It's plain irresponsible to let a 2 year old play near water unattended.

He wasn't unattended, and your victim blaming is disgusting.

The alligator isn't a perp, it's an animal. Leaving a child in or near water with being right there is a dangerous situation.

Disney created the danger with an illusion of a safe little man made beach.

It's a murky-ass lake in the dark in FL. It's not like we're in another reality once we enter Disney. But, if it makes you feel any better, I'd bet my entire life savings that this family will get an incredibly handsome payment from Disney.

Let me guess.

A) you do not have kids

And

B) you have never stayed at an upscale Disney resort property.

I have a child and have stayed at many upscale resorts throughout the world. All regions have their challenges; it's my job to be aware of them. I would never assume any corporation in any country is going to watch out for my child more than I will.

Dp- I hope you develop necrotizing fasciitis

Just me or my child too? Perhaps my whole family?

Just you. Unlike you, I'm not a monster.

I think I understand. I'm trying to help parents be aware of their surroundings in case they don't realize the present dangers, whereas you're wishing for the death of my child's mom. But I'm the monster. That makes sense.

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Anonymous wrote:Well that child would have been eaten or drowned. It's plain irresponsible to let a 2 year old play near water unattended.

He wasn't unattended, and your victim blaming is disgusting.

The alligator isn't a perp, it's an animal. Leaving a child in or near water with being right there is a dangerous situation.

Disney created the danger with an illusion of a safe little man made beach.

It's a murky-ass lake in the dark in FL. It's not like we're in another reality once we enter Disney. But, if it makes you feel any better, I'd bet my entire life savings that this family will get an incredibly handsome payment from Disney.

Let me guess.

A) you do not have kids

And

B) you have never stayed at an upscale Disney resort property.

Very unfair statement. I'm not a parent, but I feel horrible for the family and that sweet little boy. Whether the parents were negligent or not doesn't matter. They lost their child under unimaginable, freak circumstances. I can't imagine how they will ever recover from this.

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Anonymous wrote:Well that child would have been eaten or drowned. It's plain irresponsible to let a 2 year old play near water unattended.

He wasn't unattended, and your victim blaming is disgusting.

The alligator isn't a perp, it's an animal. Leaving a child in or near water with being right there is a dangerous situation.

The child wasn't unattended.

How do you know? CNN says family was watching an outdoor movie.

I guess you could be right. but if the dad was able to get to the gator, he had to have been close to his kid.

Various online articles say that only the child was in the water. He wandered into a foot of the water. The father turned around when he heard noises and then ran in. Mom did too. Dad came out with minor scratches. I think the parents were very negligent with the child.

Anonymous wrote:I've never wanted to tell so many posters IHYDIAF on a forum before.
So many smug, self righteous assholes, it would take all night to reply to them all.
I'm sure this will get removed.
Don't care.
Have you people no shame?
This family has been destroyed.
Fuck. You. All.

Absolutely this.

I wish Jeff would lock this damn thread.

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Anonymous wrote:Well that child would have been eaten or drowned. It's plain irresponsible to let a 2 year old play near water unattended.

He wasn't unattended, and your victim blaming is disgusting.

The alligator isn't a perp, it's an animal. Leaving a child in or near water with being right there is a dangerous situation.

The child wasn't unattended.

How do you know? CNN says family was watching an outdoor movie.

I guess you could be right. but if the dad was able to get to the gator, he had to have been close to his kid.

The movie is why they were out late. Still the child wasn't unattended. There were other witnesses.

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Anonymous wrote:Well that child would have been eaten or drowned. It's plain irresponsible to let a 2 year old play near water unattended.

He wasn't unattended, and your victim blaming is disgusting.

The alligator isn't a perp, it's an animal. Leaving a child in or near water with being right there is a dangerous situation.

Disney created the danger with an illusion of a safe little man made beach.

It's a murky-ass lake in the dark in FL. It's not like we're in another reality once we enter Disney. But, if it makes you feel any better, I'd bet my entire life savings that this family will get an incredibly handsome payment from Disney.

Let me guess.

A) you do not have kids

And

B) you have never stayed at an upscale Disney resort property.

I have a child and have stayed at many upscale resorts throughout the world. All regions have their challenges; it's my job to be aware of them. I would never assume any corporation in any country is going to watch out for my child more than I will.

Dp- I hope you develop necrotizing fasciitis

Just me or my child too? Perhaps my whole family?

Just you. Unlike you, I'm not a monster.

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Anonymous wrote:Well that child would have been eaten or drowned. It's plain irresponsible to let a 2 year old play near water unattended.

He wasn't unattended, and your victim blaming is disgusting.

The alligator isn't a perp, it's an animal. Leaving a child in or near water with being right there is a dangerous situation.

The child wasn't unattended.

How do you know? CNN says family was watching an outdoor movie.

I guess you could be right. but if the dad was able to get to the gator, he had to have been close to his kid.

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Anonymous wrote:Well that child would have been eaten or drowned. It's plain irresponsible to let a 2 year old play near water unattended.

He wasn't unattended, and your victim blaming is disgusting.

The alligator isn't a perp, it's an animal. Leaving a child in or near water with being right there is a dangerous situation.

Disney created the danger with an illusion of a safe little man made beach.

It's a murky-ass lake in the dark in FL. It's not like we're in another reality once we enter Disney. But, if it makes you feel any better, I'd bet my entire life savings that this family will get an incredibly handsome payment from Disney.

Let me guess.

A) you do not have kids

And

B) you have never stayed at an upscale Disney resort property.

I have a child and have stayed at many upscale resorts throughout the world. All regions have their challenges; it's my job to be aware of them. I would never assume any corporation in any country is going to watch out for my child more than I will.

Dp- I hope you develop necrotizing fasciitis

Just me or my child too? Perhaps my whole family?

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Anonymous wrote:Well that child would have been eaten or drowned. It's plain irresponsible to let a 2 year old play near water unattended.

He wasn't unattended, and your victim blaming is disgusting.

The alligator isn't a perp, it's an animal. Leaving a child in or near water with being right there is a dangerous situation.

Disney created the danger with an illusion of a safe little man made beach.

It's a murky-ass lake in the dark in FL. It's not like we're in another reality once we enter Disney. But, if it makes you feel any better, I'd bet my entire life savings that this family will get an incredibly handsome payment from Disney.

Let me guess.

A) you do not have kids

And

B) you have never stayed at an upscale Disney resort property.

I have a child and have stayed at many upscale resorts throughout the world. All regions have their challenges; it's my job to be aware of them. I would never assume any corporation in any country is going to watch out for my child more than I will.

Dp- I hope you develop necrotizing fasciitis

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Anonymous wrote:Well that child would have been eaten or drowned. It's plain irresponsible to let a 2 year old play near water unattended.

He wasn't unattended, and your victim blaming is disgusting.

The alligator isn't a perp, it's an animal. Leaving a child in or near water with being right there is a dangerous situation.

The child wasn't unattended.

How do you know? CNN says family was watching an outdoor movie.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well that child would have been eaten or drowned. It's plain irresponsible to let a 2 year old play near water unattended.

He wasn't unattended, and your victim blaming is disgusting.

The alligator isn't a perp, it's an animal. Leaving a child in or near water with being right there is a dangerous situation.

Disney created the danger with an illusion of a safe little man made beach.

It's a murky-ass lake in the dark in FL. It's not like we're in another reality once we enter Disney. But, if it makes you feel any better, I'd bet my entire life savings that this family will get an incredibly handsome payment from Disney.

Let me guess.

A) you do not have kids

And

B) you have never stayed at an upscale Disney resort property.

I have a child and have stayed at many upscale resorts throughout the world. All regions have their challenges; it's my job to be aware of them. I would never assume any corporation in any country is going to watch out for my child more than I will.