Anonymous wrote:I got a reply from Meren.

She said removing the Fox Mill ES population from South Lakes HS will decrease the already under-enrolled membership and that means the programming decreases. She also said such a reality would be unacceptable to South Lakes families.

I guess she just doesn't care about Fox Mill families.

She hasn't been supportive the entire time, but we are zoned to Skyview in both scenarios. The first speaker in the McDaniel call last night said the final scenario would not materially change what has already been presented except for tweaks around the edges.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the RIO people feel a deep-seated sense of insecurity, since they could only afford to buy a house in Herndon, but their kids go to school with much wealthier people who could afford to buy near Oakton. That makes them act crazy if they sense their desperate grip on the bottom of the social climbing ladder is being loosened.

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Gosh, you all finally figured it out! We’re all insecure and that’s exactly what’s driving us to speak up on behalf of our kids.

It is mind-boggling the assumptions people make on this thread simply because they have a different perspective than constituents who have made their opinions known.

Sincerely,
A “poor” Oakton HS parent from Herndon

Fellow "poor" here. I agree that the insecurity thing is a weird take. But I also think the behavior from some parents has been pretty gross. There's a whole "Skyview isn't good enough for my kid, but it's fine for your kid" thing going on in 20171. I get that some people really love Oakton, and that some people want to go Skyview in order to avoid South Lakes and Westfield. Great. But there are all the people at Oak Hill who probably wish they could stay at Chantilly, and you don't hear them whining nearly as much. Meanwhile they have to hear about how terrible Skyview will be from their pro-Oakton neighbors. It's insensitive at best.

Ironically, there are people in the actual rich neighborhoods whose kids go to Navy and live closer to Oakton (therefore not on any Skyview maps), who wish they would have been rezoned for Skyview.

Is this a personal ancedote or reflected anywhere? As it seemed like Navy did not want to move to Chantilly a few weeks ago.

I think the pushback had more to do with splitting Navy up in weird ways than moving from Oakton to Chantilly. I think that group that would have been moved to Chantilly would have also been moved to Rocky Run for middle school which is just strange.

I think although Chantilly is a great school, there would have been significant pushback if you moved the Navy/Oakton families there. That opinion was expressed several times at the first of the XYZ meetings.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the RIO people feel a deep-seated sense of insecurity, since they could only afford to buy a house in Herndon, but their kids go to school with much wealthier people who could afford to buy near Oakton. That makes them act crazy if they sense their desperate grip on the bottom of the social climbing ladder is being loosened.

Maybe but the poorest areas zoned to Oakton HS are all near Oakton and feed to Mosaic and Marshall Road ES.

Doesn't Oakton have a FARMs rate of like 6%? They barely have any poor areas.

It's a little out of touch to describe any area in the Oakton pyramid as poor and the same can be said about much of Fairfax county. With the exception of tear down or houses needing significant renovations it looks like all of the elementary schools in Oakton are on par with one another for house price per sq ft and lot size with the exception of some outliers in the Waples Mill area. Crossfield had several houses in the upper end of sales last year.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the RIO people feel a deep-seated sense of insecurity, since they could only afford to buy a house in Herndon, but their kids go to school with much wealthier people who could afford to buy near Oakton. That makes them act crazy if they sense their desperate grip on the bottom of the social climbing ladder is being loosened.

💯

Gosh, you all finally figured it out! We’re all insecure and that’s exactly what’s driving us to speak up on behalf of our kids.

It is mind-boggling the assumptions people make on this thread simply because they have a different perspective than constituents who have made their opinions known.

Sincerely,
A “poor” Oakton HS parent from Herndon

Fellow "poor" here. I agree that the insecurity thing is a weird take. But I also think the behavior from some parents has been pretty gross. There's a whole "Skyview isn't good enough for my kid, but it's fine for your kid" thing going on in 20171. I get that some people really love Oakton, and that some people want to go Skyview in order to avoid South Lakes and Westfield. Great. But there are all the people at Oak Hill who probably wish they could stay at Chantilly, and you don't hear them whining nearly as much. Meanwhile they have to hear about how terrible Skyview will be from their pro-Oakton neighbors. It's insensitive at best.

Ironically, there are people in the actual rich neighborhoods whose kids go to Navy and live closer to Oakton (therefore not on any Skyview maps), who wish they would have been rezoned for Skyview.

Is this a personal ancedote or reflected anywhere? As it seemed like Navy did not want to move to Chantilly a few weeks ago.

I think the pushback had more to do with splitting Navy up in weird ways than moving from Oakton to Chantilly. I think that group that would have been moved to Chantilly would have also been moved to Rocky Run for middle school which is just strange.

I got a reply from Meren.

She said removing the Fox Mill ES population from South Lakes HS will decrease the already under-enrolled membership and that means the programming decreases. She also said such a reality would be unacceptable to South Lakes families.

I guess she just doesn't care about Fox Mill families.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the RIO people feel a deep-seated sense of insecurity, since they could only afford to buy a house in Herndon, but their kids go to school with much wealthier people who could afford to buy near Oakton. That makes them act crazy if they sense their desperate grip on the bottom of the social climbing ladder is being loosened.

💯

Gosh, you all finally figured it out! We’re all insecure and that’s exactly what’s driving us to speak up on behalf of our kids.

It is mind-boggling the assumptions people make on this thread simply because they have a different perspective than constituents who have made their opinions known.

Sincerely,
A “poor” Oakton HS parent from Herndon

Fellow "poor" here. I agree that the insecurity thing is a weird take. But I also think the behavior from some parents has been pretty gross. There's a whole "Skyview isn't good enough for my kid, but it's fine for your kid" thing going on in 20171. I get that some people really love Oakton, and that some people want to go Skyview in order to avoid South Lakes and Westfield. Great. But there are all the people at Oak Hill who probably wish they could stay at Chantilly, and you don't hear them whining nearly as much. Meanwhile they have to hear about how terrible Skyview will be from their pro-Oakton neighbors. It's insensitive at best.

Ironically, there are people in the actual rich neighborhoods whose kids go to Navy and live closer to Oakton (therefore not on any Skyview maps), who wish they would have been rezoned for Skyview.

Floris and Oak Hill were the two areas that historically were “promised” a new HS decades ago when the boundaries were constantly moving around.

It would be the height of ingratitude, given that history and the years of overcrowding at Chantilly, for FCPS to upend the CIP to spend over $200 million on Skyview and then have Oak Hill families say “no thanks.”

So you're saying it's ok for Oakton parents to sh*t on Skyview while also telling Oak Hill and Floris families to shut up and be grateful for their crappy new school. Tells me what I need to know, thanks.

Anonymous wrote:Still wondering if Kyle directly addressed the Crossfield-Oakton parents in the call last night. I was working and couldn't attend.

He addressed their questions and essentially stated he is waiting for future construction and bus route data before making his own judgment.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the RIO people feel a deep-seated sense of insecurity, since they could only afford to buy a house in Herndon, but their kids go to school with much wealthier people who could afford to buy near Oakton. That makes them act crazy if they sense their desperate grip on the bottom of the social climbing ladder is being loosened.

💯

Gosh, you all finally figured it out! We’re all insecure and that’s exactly what’s driving us to speak up on behalf of our kids.

It is mind-boggling the assumptions people make on this thread simply because they have a different perspective than constituents who have made their opinions known.

Sincerely,
A “poor” Oakton HS parent from Herndon

Fellow "poor" here. I agree that the insecurity thing is a weird take. But I also think the behavior from some parents has been pretty gross. There's a whole "Skyview isn't good enough for my kid, but it's fine for your kid" thing going on in 20171. I get that some people really love Oakton, and that some people want to go Skyview in order to avoid South Lakes and Westfield. Great. But there are all the people at Oak Hill who probably wish they could stay at Chantilly, and you don't hear them whining nearly as much. Meanwhile they have to hear about how terrible Skyview will be from their pro-Oakton neighbors. It's insensitive at best.

Ironically, there are people in the actual rich neighborhoods whose kids go to Navy and live closer to Oakton (therefore not on any Skyview maps), who wish they would have been rezoned for Skyview.

Floris and Oak Hill were the two areas that historically were “promised” a new HS decades ago when the boundaries were constantly moving around.

It would be the height of ingratitude, given that history and the years of overcrowding at Chantilly, for FCPS to upend the CIP to spend over $200 million on Skyview and then have Oak Hill families say “no thanks.”

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Anonymous wrote:I think the RIO people feel a deep-seated sense of insecurity, since they could only afford to buy a house in Herndon, but their kids go to school with much wealthier people who could afford to buy near Oakton. That makes them act crazy if they sense their desperate grip on the bottom of the social climbing ladder is being loosened.

💯

Gosh, you all finally figured it out! We’re all insecure and that’s exactly what’s driving us to speak up on behalf of our kids.

It is mind-boggling the assumptions people make on this thread simply because they have a different perspective than constituents who have made their opinions known.

Sincerely,
A “poor” Oakton HS parent from Herndon

Fellow "poor" here. I agree that the insecurity thing is a weird take. But I also think the behavior from some parents has been pretty gross. There's a whole "Skyview isn't good enough for my kid, but it's fine for your kid" thing going on in 20171. I get that some people really love Oakton, and that some people want to go Skyview in order to avoid South Lakes and Westfield. Great. But there are all the people at Oak Hill who probably wish they could stay at Chantilly, and you don't hear them whining nearly as much. Meanwhile they have to hear about how terrible Skyview will be from their pro-Oakton neighbors. It's insensitive at best.

Ironically, there are people in the actual rich neighborhoods whose kids go to Navy and live closer to Oakton (therefore not on any Skyview maps), who wish they would have been rezoned for Skyview.

Is this a personal ancedote or reflected anywhere? As it seemed like Navy did not want to move to Chantilly a few weeks ago.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the RIO people feel a deep-seated sense of insecurity, since they could only afford to buy a house in Herndon, but their kids go to school with much wealthier people who could afford to buy near Oakton. That makes them act crazy if they sense their desperate grip on the bottom of the social climbing ladder is being loosened.

💯

Gosh, you all finally figured it out! We’re all insecure and that’s exactly what’s driving us to speak up on behalf of our kids.

It is mind-boggling the assumptions people make on this thread simply because they have a different perspective than constituents who have made their opinions known.

Sincerely,
A “poor” Oakton HS parent from Herndon

Fellow "poor" here. I agree that the insecurity thing is a weird take. But I also think the behavior from some parents has been pretty gross. There's a whole "Skyview isn't good enough for my kid, but it's fine for your kid" thing going on in 20171. I get that some people really love Oakton, and that some people want to go Skyview in order to avoid South Lakes and Westfield. Great. But there are all the people at Oak Hill who probably wish they could stay at Chantilly, and you don't hear them whining nearly as much. Meanwhile they have to hear about how terrible Skyview will be from their pro-Oakton neighbors. It's insensitive at best.

Ironically, there are people in the actual rich neighborhoods whose kids go to Navy and live closer to Oakton (therefore not on any Skyview maps), who wish they would have been rezoned for Skyview.

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Anonymous wrote:Those parents are in a tough spot. How do you argue for other people's kids to get moved into your school, when they are all kicking and screaming to stay out?

They don't need to advocate to move a specific area into westfield. They only need to complain for ultra low expected enrollment for westfield and the negative impact of it. They can demand the board to solve the problem. The school board need to think about how to fix the problem. If not this time, at least next time they can try to fix it. Otherwise, they have to worry about their re-election.

Although my kids are not impacted this time, I feel so disappointed about all the school board members for not doing their job. I will definitely vote for a different person next time, whoever that caddidate is.

Based solely on 2025-26 numbers, adjusted Westfield will still have a higher enrollment than Skyview, South Lakes, and several other high schools. In addition, people were repeatedly pointing to future growth in some Westfield areas south of Route 50, so that could add kids to Westfield as well.

Your main beef really is that someone (apparently Dixit) is selectively only moving poorer areas into Westfield, so that could have a greater impact on its ability to offer advanced courses than if a more balanced (and logical, based on location) mix of neighborhoods were moved there. That’s a legitimate argument, but it won’t get any traction with the School Board unless Westfield families mobilize quickly and loudly. Just counting on the School Board to “do the right thing” will get you nowhere, because their commitment to doing the right thing - as opposed to what is expedient and what they think will trigger the least backlash - is absolutely nil.

Still wondering if Kyle directly addressed the Crossfield-Oakton parents in the call last night. I was working and couldn't attend.

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Anonymous wrote:Sounds like she contacted the School Board and FCPS repeatedly and is being ignored.

They can ignore one person. They cannot ignore 100 or 500. That's why RIO worked.

Yes! Even though those people did not necessarily live in Crossfield boundary. Amazing.
A little over 70 percent were from 20171, 22033, and the Reston zip where a handful of Crossfield students live. Around 30 percent even come from outside the area. No clue if they come from Fairfax or elsewhere. Could be grandparents, etc.

I am curious how do you know which comment is from which zip code? Did they publish percentage of comments by zip code?

I believe PP is talking about last year's Change.org petition, not the boundary explorer tool.

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Anonymous wrote:Sounds like she contacted the School Board and FCPS repeatedly and is being ignored.

They can ignore one person. They cannot ignore 100 or 500. That's why RIO worked.

Yes! Even though those people did not necessarily live in Crossfield boundary. Amazing.
A little over 70 percent were from 20171, 22033, and the Reston zip where a handful of Crossfield students live. Around 30 percent even come from outside the area. No clue if they come from Fairfax or elsewhere. Could be grandparents, etc.

I am curious how do you know which comment is from which zip code? Did they publish percentage of comments by zip code?

There's a map at bottom of change petition. It groups 70% as coming from three zips. Does not say where other 30% come from

70% is more than or equivalent to petitions put forth by other elementary schools during the last boundary review.

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Anonymous wrote:Those parents are in a tough spot. How do you argue for other people's kids to get moved into your school, when they are all kicking and screaming to stay out?

2008 South Lakes PTSA were masters of that! Had maps on their website of acceptable areas for their school. They actively rejected other areas.

And now many of those families impacted want to leave SLHS, how did that work out for them?

The areas redistricted to South Lakes in 2008 came mostly from Oakton and Westfield, and they would have preferred to stay at those schools. They were vocal about it, but the Reston parents already at South Lakes and wanting kids moved into SLHS had the Hunter Mill representative on the school board (Stu Gibson) on their side.

Now many, if not most, of those areas moved into South Lakes in 2008 stand to move to Skyview in 2027, and they are happy about the prospect of being back at an AP school.