Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If the admin was smart, they would deescalate, pull out, and head to a cooperative red state like TX with lots of illegal immigrants. Make a big deal of the difference in working with a cooperative state.
However, the admin is NOT smart.
Agree that the administration is full of morons but posters need to stop saying this. They are in Texas and they are in Florida. And the states are cooperating. There just aren't as many (any?) protesters to piss them off with a phone or a smile or their mere presence. So we are not seeing this kind of aggressive response.
Please post the number of illegal immigrants apprehended in Texas.
I have been checking independent sources (TRAC from Syracuse) and I look at DHS numbers, which I don't trust at all. The disparity in numbers is enormous. I am inclined to think that the first is accurate and the second is a total fiction. But for the purpose of my point, it is relevant to point out that both sources show Texas as the leader in number of detentions.
Of course this makes sense in a lot of ways starting with size of state, proximity to the border, and sheer number of immigrants. I don't think Texas is being targeted or punished the way the Blue states are selected in an openly vindictive way. But I don't want people to keep repeating an inaccuracy.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Since a judge has ruled that ice can’t use tactics like pepper spray on peaceful protests and that apparently was one of the things that set this murder into motion, and since Minnesota has a felony murder statute, can all the agents involved be charged with murder? Do they even need the felony murder statute to charge them all?
Standing in the street to block people/vehicles is not peaceful protests. There’s a longer video that shows him refusing to move, any reference to it here gets removed.
Try actually linking the video in question instead of just telling us a tall tale about it?
It’s been linked a few time, gets deleted. He’s in the road, they ask him to move, he refuses, tells others to refuse. It’s why they push people at the beginning of the video you see. They didn’t walk up to people and push them for no reason.
Stop lying and making things up. The videos (multiple videos, from different angles) show the agents pushing him and a woman on the side of the road. They push the woman into a small snowbank on the curb and she and Alex are slipping on the snow. They were not in the road obstructing anything when the attack happened. Also, there is no audio of what Alex or the woman are saying. But anyone with eyes can see from their body language as clearly depicted in the videos that they were trying to get away from the agents.
Ask yourself why you are so desperate to believe and propagate lies that are easily refuted.
Those videos cut off the previous 10 seconds? Why? Because it’s the time showing them in the road..
Anonymous wrote:Bring a gun to fight law enforcement and you will lose. Sorry losers
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Since a judge has ruled that ice can’t use tactics like pepper spray on peaceful protests and that apparently was one of the things that set this murder into motion, and since Minnesota has a felony murder statute, can all the agents involved be charged with murder? Do they even need the felony murder statute to charge them all?
Standing in the street to block people/vehicles is not peaceful protests. There’s a longer video that shows him refusing to move, any reference to it here gets removed.
Try actually linking the video in question instead of just telling us a tall tale about it?
It’s been linked a few time, gets deleted. He’s in the road, they ask him to move, he refuses, tells others to refuse. It’s why they push people at the beginning of the video you see. They didn’t walk up to people and push them for no reason.
Stop lying and making things up. The videos (multiple videos, from different angles) show the agents pushing him and a woman on the side of the road. They push the woman into a small snowbank on the curb and she and Alex are slipping on the snow. They were not in the road obstructing anything when the attack happened. Also, there is no audio of what Alex or the woman are saying. But anyone with eyes can see from their body language as clearly depicted in the videos that they were trying to get away from the agents.
Ask yourself why you are so desperate to believe and propagate lies that are easily refuted.
Those videos cut off the previous 10 seconds? Why? Because it’s the time showing them in the road..
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Since a judge has ruled that ice can’t use tactics like pepper spray on peaceful protests and that apparently was one of the things that set this murder into motion, and since Minnesota has a felony murder statute, can all the agents involved be charged with murder? Do they even need the felony murder statute to charge them all?
Standing in the street to block people/vehicles is not peaceful protests. There’s a longer video that shows him refusing to move, any reference to it here gets removed.
Try actually linking the video in question instead of just telling us a tall tale about it?
It’s been linked a few time, gets deleted. He’s in the road, they ask him to move, he refuses, tells others to refuse. It’s why they push people at the beginning of the video you see. They didn’t walk up to people and push them for no reason.
Stop lying and making things up. The videos (multiple videos, from different angles) show the agents pushing him and a woman on the side of the road. They push the woman into a small snowbank on the curb and she and Alex are slipping on the snow. They were not in the road obstructing anything when the attack happened. Also, there is no audio of what Alex or the woman are saying. But anyone with eyes can see from their body language as clearly depicted in the videos that they were trying to get away from the agents.
Ask yourself why you are so desperate to believe and propagate lies that are easily refuted.
Those videos cut off the previous 10 seconds? Why? Because it’s the time showing them in the road..
Anonymous wrote:Bring a gun to fight law enforcement and you will lose. Sorry losers
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am curious, what do you all think was going on in the head of the shooter? What could he possibly be thinking? He has been doing this 8 years and presumably hasn't killed someone in cold blood before, at least in public. Not a new recruit with no training. So what was he thinking? I am not trying to justify anything. Just purely curious.
Also, other than trying to block the appropriation bills, which doesn't sound like it would do much anyways, what else can democrats do?
And can Minneapolis bring charges against this guy (and the last guy?). I know feds are not cooperating but can they legally prosecute? It seems in this case, there is plenty of evidence to convict.
When the deceased man was struggling with federal agents, one of the agents saw his gun and yelled “gun”. I believe one of the agents removed the deceased man’s gun during the struggle, but not all of the agents knew that. When the agents are searching the man’s body after he passed, one of them is heard asking “where’s the gun?”
These are trying to do a dangerous job and have protestors/rioters constantly in their faces. They were faced with a man resisting arrest who possessed a gun. I believe that was their mindset.
It’s not a dangerous job.
Says the person typing whatever from a warm home and a cup of java.
It’s a needlessly dangerous job being done voluntarily by the otherwise unemployable dregs of society, and all for the purposes of evil.
It wasn't needlessly dangerous when Obama and Biden were president. Somehow, ICE was able to execute its mission without killing US citizens and disrupting the lives of millions of Americans trying to go about their business.
ICE barely removed anyone from the interior of the country during both Biden and Obama’s presidencies. They didn’t execute their mission at all and allowed the illegal immigrant population to massively expand.
This is a rewritten narrative. Just more fake news, as always with these butt kissers.
I have friends in immigration law and they were apoplectic at Obama. They posted for years on FB about how cruel he was and they’re raging liberals.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Since a judge has ruled that ice can’t use tactics like pepper spray on peaceful protests and that apparently was one of the things that set this murder into motion, and since Minnesota has a felony murder statute, can all the agents involved be charged with murder? Do they even need the felony murder statute to charge them all?
Standing in the street to block people/vehicles is not peaceful protests. There’s a longer video that shows him refusing to move, any reference to it here gets removed.
Try actually linking the video in question instead of just telling us a tall tale about it?
It’s been linked a few time, gets deleted. He’s in the road, they ask him to move, he refuses, tells others to refuse. It’s why they push people at the beginning of the video you see. They didn’t walk up to people and push them for no reason.
Stop lying and making things up. The videos (multiple videos, from different angles) show the agents pushing him and a woman on the side of the road. They push the woman into a small snowbank on the curb and she and Alex are slipping on the snow. They were not in the road obstructing anything when the attack happened. Also, there is no audio of what Alex or the woman are saying. But anyone with eyes can see from their body language as clearly depicted in the videos that they were trying to get away from the agents.
Ask yourself why you are so desperate to believe and propagate lies that are easily refuted.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Protest is constitutionally protected, and, in my view, a moral imperative in time like these.
Is what these people are doing constitutionally protected protest? They are actively attempting to impede and obstruct federal law enforcement activities. That’s not a constitutionally protected right. IMO, the two deaths we have seen are a tragic consequence of a party telling their supporters to interject themselves into dangerous federal law enforcement operations. It’s not a safe environment for anyone.
Funny how you only question the legality of the protests and not the actions of masked thugs. Total logic fail, you gross traitor. If everyday men hadn’t thrown tea into a harbor, America would have a very different history. Read a goddamn history book.
There “protestors” are rioting because they want open borders and the abolishment of immigration laws. We all saw what their preferred policies bring to the country during the four years of Biden’s regime. No thank you!
You could always pack up and leave to make space for the decent people arriving as immigrants.
Immigrants should seek lawful entry at designated points of entry.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am curious, what do you all think was going on in the head of the shooter? What could he possibly be thinking? He has been doing this 8 years and presumably hasn't killed someone in cold blood before, at least in public. Not a new recruit with no training. So what was he thinking? I am not trying to justify anything. Just purely curious.
Also, other than trying to block the appropriation bills, which doesn't sound like it would do much anyways, what else can democrats do?
And can Minneapolis bring charges against this guy (and the last guy?). I know feds are not cooperating but can they legally prosecute? It seems in this case, there is plenty of evidence to convict.
When the deceased man was struggling with federal agents, one of the agents saw his gun and yelled “gun”. I believe one of the agents removed the deceased man’s gun during the struggle, but not all of the agents knew that. When the agents are searching the man’s body after he passed, one of them is heard asking “where’s the gun?”
These are trying to do a dangerous job and have protestors/rioters constantly in their faces. They were faced with a man resisting arrest who possessed a gun. I believe that was their mindset.
It’s not a dangerous job.
Says the person typing whatever from a warm home and a cup of java.
It’s a needlessly dangerous job being done voluntarily by the otherwise unemployable dregs of society, and all for the purposes of evil.
It wasn't needlessly dangerous when Obama and Biden were president. Somehow, ICE was able to execute its mission without killing US citizens and disrupting the lives of millions of Americans trying to go about their business.
ICE barely removed anyone from the interior of the country during both Biden and Obama’s presidencies. They didn’t execute their mission at all and allowed the illegal immigrant population to massively expand.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Protest is constitutionally protected, and, in my view, a moral imperative in time like these.
Is what these people are doing constitutionally protected protest? They are actively attempting to impede and obstruct federal law enforcement activities. That’s not a constitutionally protected right. IMO, the two deaths we have seen are a tragic consequence of a party telling their supporters to interject themselves into dangerous federal law enforcement operations. It’s not a safe environment for anyone.
Funny how you only question the legality of the protests and not the actions of masked thugs. Total logic fail, you gross traitor. If everyday men hadn’t thrown tea into a harbor, America would have a very different history. Read a goddamn history book.
There “protestors” are rioting because they want open borders and the abolishment of immigration laws. We all saw what their preferred policies bring to the country during the four years of Biden’s regime. No thank you!
You could always pack up and leave to make space for the decent people arriving as immigrants.
Immigrants should seek lawful entry at designated points of entry.
Anonymous wrote:AG Bondi is offering ICE stand down in exchange for access to voting rolls. It shows ICE is in Minneapolis is not for its stated mission, but rather, it’s a way to extort.