Anonymous
Post 07/16/2024 14:28     Subject: As a Democrat, it all feels hopeless.

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Anonymous wrote:PP here...adding...The US is the only developed country with a two-party political system, and I believe this has destroyed our great democracy.


Completely disagree. The two party system forces both sides closer to the center than they otherwise would and avoids the chaos we see in governments like France, where odd bedfellows (even communists) come together to govern without people voting on it.


Really? So why are the Dems in trouble? How did Trump win the last election? Because the Dems resisted/refused to side closer to the center - creating an imbalance!! It's not rocket science.


The dems are in trouble because they didn’t govern from the center. Biden was elected as a moderate who would “return us to normalcy” but swung wildly left once in office. His current attempts to backtrack like with his border executive actions are too little too late for many swing state voters.


It seems neither side is willing to "govern form the center" and therein lies the problem.


Trump electing a former young democrat as his VP was a very smart move to bring his presidency to the center.


Hmmm. I don’t really trust a former dem/never trumper. Seems like he just wants power and is buddies with don jr. hopefully I am wrong and he stays in line.
Anonymous
Post 07/16/2024 14:11     Subject: As a Democrat, it all feels hopeless.

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Anonymous wrote:PP here...adding...The US is the only developed country with a two-party political system, and I believe this has destroyed our great democracy.


Completely disagree. The two party system forces both sides closer to the center than they otherwise would and avoids the chaos we see in governments like France, where odd bedfellows (even communists) come together to govern without people voting on it.


Really? So why are the Dems in trouble? How did Trump win the last election? Because the Dems resisted/refused to side closer to the center - creating an imbalance!! It's not rocket science.


The dems are in trouble because they didn’t govern from the center. Biden was elected as a moderate who would “return us to normalcy” but swung wildly left once in office. His current attempts to backtrack like with his border executive actions are too little too late for many swing state voters.


It seems neither side is willing to "govern form the center" and therein lies the problem.


Trump electing a former young democrat as his VP was a very smart move to bring his presidency to the center.


LOL. That’s not what he did by selecting Vance.


We will see.
Anonymous
Post 07/16/2024 14:10     Subject: As a Democrat, it all feels hopeless.

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Anonymous wrote:PP here...adding...The US is the only developed country with a two-party political system, and I believe this has destroyed our great democracy.


Completely disagree. The two party system forces both sides closer to the center than they otherwise would and avoids the chaos we see in governments like France, where odd bedfellows (even communists) come together to govern without people voting on it.


Really? So why are the Dems in trouble? How did Trump win the last election? Because the Dems resisted/refused to side closer to the center - creating an imbalance!! It's not rocket science.


The dems are in trouble because they didn’t govern from the center. Biden was elected as a moderate who would “return us to normalcy” but swung wildly left once in office. His current attempts to backtrack like with his border executive actions are too little too late for many swing state voters.


It seems neither side is willing to "govern form the center" and therein lies the problem.


Trump electing a former young democrat as his VP was a very smart move to bring his presidency to the center.


LOL. That’s not what he did by selecting Vance.
Anonymous
Post 07/16/2024 14:06     Subject: As a Democrat, it all feels hopeless.

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Anonymous wrote:PP here...adding...The US is the only developed country with a two-party political system, and I believe this has destroyed our great democracy.


Completely disagree. The two party system forces both sides closer to the center than they otherwise would and avoids the chaos we see in governments like France, where odd bedfellows (even communists) come together to govern without people voting on it.


Really? So why are the Dems in trouble? How did Trump win the last election? Because the Dems resisted/refused to side closer to the center - creating an imbalance!! It's not rocket science.


The dems are in trouble because they didn’t govern from the center. Biden was elected as a moderate who would “return us to normalcy” but swung wildly left once in office. His current attempts to backtrack like with his border executive actions are too little too late for many swing state voters.


It seems neither side is willing to "govern form the center" and therein lies the problem.


Trump electing a former young democrat as his VP was a very smart move to bring his presidency to the center.
Anonymous
Post 07/16/2024 14:05     Subject: As a Democrat, it all feels hopeless.

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No one wants to repeal a woman’s right to work and get an education.


Why don’t you familiarise yourself with Project 2025 main goals

- the complete elimination of the Department of Education

- complete abortion ban

- the department of Health and Human Services should "maintain a biblically based, social science-reinforced definition of marriage and family".

- It proposes to eliminate a long list of terms from all laws and federal regulations, including "sexual orientation", "gender equality", "abortion" and "reproductive rights"

- aims to end diversity, equity and inclusion programs in schools and government departments


Cite please?


Citations are here
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c977njnvq2do.amp


From your link, but of course you know this:

Trump has disavowed the document.
"I know nothing about Project 2025," Trump posted on his social media website, Truth Social. "I have no idea who is behind it. I disagree with some of the things they're saying and some of the things they’re saying are absolutely ridiculous and abysmal."


Because we know Trump always tells the truth.


Trump isn’t a reader. He probably hasn’t read through Project 2025 and isn’t familiar with what’s in it . He shares that with most Americans.

That’s what makes me cringe when I hear out of touch liberals keep saying Project 2025 like it’s an epithet toward Trump. Their elitist tunnel vision shows . The majority of the country is not actually going to sit down and read a Republican 500 page pamphlet . Negativity also never sells an election/a candidate . Hope does. You have to provide something . Get real and make an abridged version of a DNC platform with actual economic remedies for the inflation of today instead of denying that inflation is happening because that’s what the President and DNC is doing. They’re denying that grocery store/food prices went up and COLA in general went up while wages and jobs have not. The bull market economy is only benefiting the 1% and investors . At this point, Biden’s admin. may as well be a Republican administration. Wars, no Roe v Wade, cutting Medicare, denying economic hardship for the poor and working class


Doesn't matter if he "Knows" about it. The people who influence him will push it forward.


You are thinking in Bidens terms. He is doing what he is told to do. The Trump phenomena is that Trump does what Trump wants to do. And that is why he is equally hated by both parties’ elites, bit so popular among regular folks.
Anonymous
Post 07/16/2024 13:31     Subject: As a Democrat, it all feels hopeless.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:PP here...adding...The US is the only developed country with a two-party political system, and I believe this has destroyed our great democracy.


Completely disagree. The two party system forces both sides closer to the center than they otherwise would and avoids the chaos we see in governments like France, where odd bedfellows (even communists) come together to govern without people voting on it.


Really? So why are the Dems in trouble? How did Trump win the last election? Because the Dems resisted/refused to side closer to the center - creating an imbalance!! It's not rocket science.


The dems are in trouble because they didn’t govern from the center. Biden was elected as a moderate who would “return us to normalcy” but swung wildly left once in office. His current attempts to backtrack like with his border executive actions are too little too late for many swing state voters.


It seems neither side is willing to "govern form the center" and therein lies the problem.


Each side pays at the ballot box from veering too far. We see much less centrist politics in other countries with multi party systems.
Anonymous
Post 07/16/2024 13:27     Subject: As a Democrat, it all feels hopeless.

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Anonymous wrote:PP here...adding...The US is the only developed country with a two-party political system, and I believe this has destroyed our great democracy.


Completely disagree. The two party system forces both sides closer to the center than they otherwise would and avoids the chaos we see in governments like France, where odd bedfellows (even communists) come together to govern without people voting on it.


Really? So why are the Dems in trouble? How did Trump win the last election? Because the Dems resisted/refused to side closer to the center - creating an imbalance!! It's not rocket science.


The dems are in trouble because they didn’t govern from the center. Biden was elected as a moderate who would “return us to normalcy” but swung wildly left once in office. His current attempts to backtrack like with his border executive actions are too little too late for many swing state voters.


It seems neither side is willing to "govern form the center" and therein lies the problem.
Anonymous
Post 07/16/2024 13:26     Subject: As a Democrat, it all feels hopeless.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:PP here...adding...The US is the only developed country with a two-party political system, and I believe this has destroyed our great democracy.


Completely disagree. The two party system forces both sides closer to the center than they otherwise would and avoids the chaos we see in governments like France, where odd bedfellows (even communists) come together to govern without people voting on it.


Really? So why are the Dems in trouble? How did Trump win the last election? Because the Dems resisted/refused to side closer to the center - creating an imbalance!! It's not rocket science.


The dems are in trouble because they didn’t govern from the center. Biden was elected as a moderate who would “return us to normalcy” but swung wildly left once in office. His current attempts to backtrack like with his border executive actions are too little too late for many swing state voters.


+1
Anonymous
Post 07/16/2024 13:21     Subject: As a Democrat, it all feels hopeless.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:PP here...adding...The US is the only developed country with a two-party political system, and I believe this has destroyed our great democracy.


Completely disagree. The two party system forces both sides closer to the center than they otherwise would and avoids the chaos we see in governments like France, where odd bedfellows (even communists) come together to govern without people voting on it.


Really? So why are the Dems in trouble? How did Trump win the last election? Because the Dems resisted/refused to side closer to the center - creating an imbalance!! It's not rocket science.


The dems are in trouble because they didn’t govern from the center. Biden was elected as a moderate who would “return us to normalcy” but swung wildly left once in office. His current attempts to backtrack like with his border executive actions are too little too late for many swing state voters.
Anonymous
Post 07/16/2024 13:19     Subject: As a Democrat, it all feels hopeless.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:PP here...adding...The US is the only developed country with a two-party political system, and I believe this has destroyed our great democracy.


Completely disagree. The two party system forces both sides closer to the center than they otherwise would and avoids the chaos we see in governments like France, where odd bedfellows (even communists) come together to govern without people voting on it.


Really? So why are the Dems in trouble? How did Trump win the last election? Because the Dems resisted/refused to side closer to the center - creating an imbalance!! It's not rocket science.
Anonymous
Post 07/16/2024 13:12     Subject: As a Democrat, it all feels hopeless.

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Anonymous wrote:We need a NEW THIRD PARTY OPTION!!! Not independent.


Vote for RFK then.


Until there is actually a formal 3rd Political Party where reps are included in Congress and the Senate, any vote for an "independent" for any Presidential term will never succeed.

And this is why the GOP keeps bankrolling third parties. We wouldn’t have had W (twice) or Trump had people not said, “I’m sending a (mystery, nonsensical) message! They’ll get this message for sure!” The only message anyone has received is that a not insignificant number of Democrats don’t actually care about Democratic principles and don’t care who gets hurt by their little protest votes.


Democrats have to earn people’s votes, they aren’t entitled to them. Those voters can vote for a third party or they can stay home. That’s their decision.
Anonymous
Post 07/16/2024 13:08     Subject: As a Democrat, it all feels hopeless.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We need a NEW THIRD PARTY OPTION!!! Not independent.


Vote for RFK then.


Until there is actually a formal 3rd Political Party where reps are included in Congress and the Senate, any vote for an "independent" for any Presidential term will never succeed.

And this is why the GOP keeps bankrolling third parties. We wouldn’t have had W (twice) or Trump had people not said, “I’m sending a (mystery, nonsensical) message! They’ll get this message for sure!” The only message anyone has received is that a not insignificant number of Democrats don’t actually care about Democratic principles and don’t care who gets hurt by their little protest votes.
Anonymous
Post 07/16/2024 13:08     Subject: As a Democrat, it all feels hopeless.

Anonymous wrote:PP here...adding...The US is the only developed country with a two-party political system, and I believe this has destroyed our great democracy.


Completely disagree. The two party system forces both sides closer to the center than they otherwise would and avoids the chaos we see in governments like France, where odd bedfellows (even communists) come together to govern without people voting on it.
Anonymous
Post 07/16/2024 13:05     Subject: As a Democrat, it all feels hopeless.

PP here...adding...The US is the only developed country with a two-party political system, and I believe this has destroyed our great democracy.
Anonymous
Post 07/16/2024 13:04     Subject: As a Democrat, it all feels hopeless.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We need a NEW THIRD PARTY OPTION!!! Not independent.


Vote for RFK then.


Until there is actually a formal 3rd Political Party where reps are included in Congress and the Senate, any vote for an "independent" for any Presidential term will never succeed.