Do you have any specifics on "lies, lies, gaslighting and shortchanging of families and coaches?" We are an ECP family and now very nervous.

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like NVVA is looking for a volleyball director. I see many local volleyball folks on here, so perhaps some interest... Just passing it along.

https://www.nvvacareers.com/volleyball-director

Does anybody know what happened at NVVA over the past few years? Looking at the historicals, it seems like their club teams were generally doing well only 2-3 yrs ago, but they don't even show up on AES last year.

My daughter played for them and we were generally happy. She’s trying out at several teams this upcoming year, including NVVA. We asked a couple people why they aren’t a part of the Chesapeake region like the other clubs and never get an answer. They show up on last years SportsEngine rankings, not the USAV national rankings.

Anonymous wrote:Looks like NVVA is looking for a volleyball director. I see many local volleyball folks on here, so perhaps some interest... Just passing it along.

https://www.nvvacareers.com/volleyball-director

Does anybody know what happened at NVVA over the past few years? Looking at the historicals, it seems like their club teams were generally doing well only 2-3 yrs ago, but they don't even show up on AES last year.

Looks like NVVA is looking for a volleyball director. I see many local volleyball folks on here, so perhaps some interest... Just passing it along.

https://www.nvvacareers.com/volleyball-director

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Anonymous wrote:Is Loudoun Elite any good? I see it's $7502 for this season. That seems very high.

Wow, that’s way too much. My daughter wanted to try out for them but it’s too high. I just checked their site and you are right.

I agree that seems really high. Their website does show they are planning for their top teams to attend a lot of multiday tournaments including 4 national qualifiers and they are showing 3 days per week of practice plus a weekly strength and conditioning session. That's a pretty aggressive schedule that drives up their expenses for them, but that also seems like a lot of training and tournaments requiring travel for a club that historically hasn't qualified for USAV nationals or had a lot of players go on to play in college. I think this is a good example of trying to find a club that matches what you're hoping to get out of club volleyball. If DD is not likely to play in college but plays club for the experiences/friendships/fitness/something for college application/whatever, is it worth spending over $7k plus all those travel expenses?

Something interesting that I noticed poking around their website is that on their College Commitments page (https://www.loudounelitevb.com/collegecommitments) they include players who ever played a single season for them that went on to play in college.They are transparent about what age(s) they played for the club. I don't think it's inappropriate - they played a part in these players' path to play in college. Just not something I have seen others clubs do in that way.

More clubs should do this but I think the floor should be U14.

For setters and liberos, (starting) 12u is important.

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Anonymous wrote:
Something interesting that I noticed poking around their website is that on their College Commitments page (https://www.loudounelitevb.com/collegecommitments) they include players who ever played a single season for them that went on to play in college. They are transparent about what age(s) they played for the club. I don't think it's inappropriate - they played a part in these players' path to play in college. Just not something I have seen others clubs do in that way.

Wish that this was the norm for all clubs. The "college recruiting" clubs often called tier 1 live off of the recruiting of players from other clubs. For example, both Metro and VAE have a lot of college commits, great for them and for the region! But a number of players that joined them at U17 and U18 already had lot of recruiting interest while they were on other clubs U16 teams. An even larger number trained at other clubs at U15 and earlier. You don't see the clubs that they were with taking credit for that, but you certainly see those tier 1 clubs constantly marketing it.

While players should always be able to play wherever they want, those interested in playing in college should have better info than they do today.

Some players may not appreciate their previous clubs and coaches at all and they never mention their previous clubs. For example in club A 23/24 14T, some players from mvsa, when they playing games vs MVSA teams, they are so excited and played like mvsa kicked them out. (Watch youtu.be videos). Some club coaches need coach kids to be a nice person before winning big. Win or lose is just part of life.

What’s club A?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is Loudoun Elite any good? I see it's $7502 for this season. That seems very high.

Wow, that’s way too much. My daughter wanted to try out for them but it’s too high. I just checked their site and you are right.

I agree that seems really high. Their website does show they are planning for their top teams to attend a lot of multiday tournaments including 4 national qualifiers and they are showing 3 days per week of practice plus a weekly strength and conditioning session. That's a pretty aggressive schedule that drives up their expenses for them, but that also seems like a lot of training and tournaments requiring travel for a club that historically hasn't qualified for USAV nationals or had a lot of players go on to play in college. I think this is a good example of trying to find a club that matches what you're hoping to get out of club volleyball. If DD is not likely to play in college but plays club for the experiences/friendships/fitness/something for college application/whatever, is it worth spending over $7k plus all those travel expenses?

Something interesting that I noticed poking around their website is that on their College Commitments page (https://www.loudounelitevb.com/collegecommitments) they include players who ever played a single season for them that went on to play in college.They are transparent about what age(s) they played for the club. I don't think it's inappropriate - they played a part in these players' path to play in college. Just not something I have seen others clubs do in that way.

More clubs should do this but I think the floor should be U14.

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Anonymous wrote:
Something interesting that I noticed poking around their website is that on their College Commitments page (https://www.loudounelitevb.com/collegecommitments) they include players who ever played a single season for them that went on to play in college. They are transparent about what age(s) they played for the club. I don't think it's inappropriate - they played a part in these players' path to play in college. Just not something I have seen others clubs do in that way.

Wish that this was the norm for all clubs. The "college recruiting" clubs often called tier 1 live off of the recruiting of players from other clubs. For example, both Metro and VAE have a lot of college commits, great for them and for the region! But a number of players that joined them at U17 and U18 already had lot of recruiting interest while they were on other clubs U16 teams. An even larger number trained at other clubs at U15 and earlier. You don't see the clubs that they were with taking credit for that, but you certainly see those tier 1 clubs constantly marketing it.

While players should always be able to play wherever they want, those interested in playing in college should have better info than they do today.

Some players may not appreciate their previous clubs and coaches at all and they never mention their previous clubs. For example in club A 23/24 14T, some players from mvsa, when they playing games vs MVSA teams, they are so excited and played like mvsa kicked them out. (Watch youtu.be videos). Some club coaches need coach kids to be a nice person before winning big. Win or lose is just part of life.

I think it goes both ways though. I've seen clubs being petty to players that move to other clubs. Some clubs seem to expect players to be loyal to them, but then see no issue not offering a spot to a player who has been with the club for multiple seasons.

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Anonymous wrote:
Something interesting that I noticed poking around their website is that on their College Commitments page (https://www.loudounelitevb.com/collegecommitments) they include players who ever played a single season for them that went on to play in college. They are transparent about what age(s) they played for the club. I don't think it's inappropriate - they played a part in these players' path to play in college. Just not something I have seen others clubs do in that way.

Wish that this was the norm for all clubs. The "college recruiting" clubs often called tier 1 live off of the recruiting of players from other clubs. For example, both Metro and VAE have a lot of college commits, great for them and for the region! But a number of players that joined them at U17 and U18 already had lot of recruiting interest while they were on other clubs U16 teams. An even larger number trained at other clubs at U15 and earlier. You don't see the clubs that they were with taking credit for that, but you certainly see those tier 1 clubs constantly marketing it.

While players should always be able to play wherever they want, those interested in playing in college should have better info than they do today.

Some players may not appreciate their previous clubs and coaches at all and they never mention their previous clubs. For example in club A 23/24 14T, some players from mvsa, when they playing games vs MVSA teams, they are so excited and played like mvsa kicked them out. (Watch youtu.be videos). Some club coaches need coach kids to be a nice person before winning big. Win or lose is just part of life.

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Something interesting that I noticed poking around their website is that on their College Commitments page (https://www.loudounelitevb.com/collegecommitments) they include players who ever played a single season for them that went on to play in college. They are transparent about what age(s) they played for the club. I don't think it's inappropriate - they played a part in these players' path to play in college. Just not something I have seen others clubs do in that way.

Wish that this was the norm for all clubs. The "college recruiting" clubs often called tier 1 live off of the recruiting of players from other clubs. For example, both Metro and VAE have a lot of college commits, great for them and for the region! But a number of players that joined them at U17 and U18 already had lot of recruiting interest while they were on other clubs U16 teams. An even larger number trained at other clubs at U15 and earlier. You don't see the clubs that they were with taking credit for that, but you certainly see those tier 1 clubs constantly marketing it.

While players should always be able to play wherever they want, those interested in playing in college should have better info than they do today.

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Anonymous wrote:Is Loudoun Elite any good? I see it's $7502 for this season. That seems very high.

Wow, that’s way too much. My daughter wanted to try out for them but it’s too high. I just checked their site and you are right.

I agree that seems really high. Their website does show they are planning for their top teams to attend a lot of multiday tournaments including 4 national qualifiers and they are showing 3 days per week of practice plus a weekly strength and conditioning session. That's a pretty aggressive schedule that drives up their expenses for them, but that also seems like a lot of training and tournaments requiring travel for a club that historically hasn't qualified for USAV nationals or had a lot of players go on to play in college. I think this is a good example of trying to find a club that matches what you're hoping to get out of club volleyball. If DD is not likely to play in college but plays club for the experiences/friendships/fitness/something for college application/whatever, is it worth spending over $7k plus all those travel expenses?

Something interesting that I noticed poking around their website is that on their College Commitments page (https://www.loudounelitevb.com/collegecommitments) they include players who ever played a single season for them that went on to play in college.They are transparent about what age(s) they played for the club. I don't think it's inappropriate - they played a part in these players' path to play in college. Just not something I have seen others clubs do in that way.