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Anonymous wrote:Fact - Electricty is produced with 60 to 70% of fossil fuels

Another Fact - It takes 30,000 lbs of Iron Ore to produce 30 lbs of Cobalt for each 1,000 lb EV battery.

Fact: electricity used to be produced with nearly 100% of fossil fuels.

Fact: Republicans have fought all progress toward clean energy for the last thirty years.

Fact: point source pollution is better than non point since it can be regulated, cleaned up and improved.

Fact: a solar array on a home can power your car https://news.energysage.com/solar-panels-and-electric-cars-can-i-use-solar-to-charge-my-vehicle/ (That would be zero carbon pollution for those having trouble keeping up).

Fact: Elon Musk is the largest seller of both solar and EVs in the US

Fact: Democrats hate him

Fact: This is deeply confusing

I dispute your “fact” that Democrats hate him. I don’t know a single democrat who hates him. I have friends who are tired of reading about Musk. But I do not know anyone who hates him.

There is an entire thread on this forum of people who hate Elon Musk bc he grew up in South Africa which makes him ipso facto a racist, and he's taking over Twitter so that he can promote racism. Also, Biden is doing this big American EV push and won't invite Tesla because, again, Elon is an evil foreigner.

What you interpret as hate is just some gentle pushback against the cult of personality he has somehow acquired. I don't think that many people, aside from some terminally online Twitterers, think that his South African upbringing automatically makes him a racist or that he's an evil foreigner. It's just that he's plainly not some sort of brilliant visionary. He's just a dude whose dad owned an emerald mine, and who became incredibly wealthy through a series of acquisitions of companies - to his credit - that he built. He also happens to be a mercurial prick in full public view, a charge which, puzzlingly, his cultist fans deny vehemently.

What and idiotic post. He was raised in Canada with his siblings after the mom fled SAfrica and the ex husband.

“Gentle pushback” of a bunch of obvious lies?

“Personality he somehow acquired” like being very successful in school, business and inventing?

Wow. What leftist websites are posting that garbage? Pls put links down. Hilarious uninformed slander.

I beseech you, turn off your computer and go outside.

OMG, leftists are hilarious.

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Ah yes, the ole “quick pass a message..er, I mean bill…that will do nothing that we claim it will” move. Wowza no one saw that one coming! Surely people will think the party who passed the “oil and gas price gouging bill” has nothing to do with gas prices now! Good one dems, you’ll definitely win in November! If you cross your fingers really really hard.

What would have the Dems do? Really? Oil prices are through the roof because of the war in Ukraine. It’s a global market. The domestic market is still ramping up from the last crash. It takes times for oil companies to reopen wells that were closed because the price per barrel was below their profitability level. And inflation generally? Yeah it’s high and it sucks. But this isn’t all because of Biden. Admittedly his spending last year on the child tax credit fueled inflation than other countries but it’s not much higher than other countries. Let’s recall when he was trying to jumpstart the economy due to COVID and avoid a deflationary environment similar to the one following the Great Recession. It worked. Too well.

Build Back Better is dead. His spending plans outside of foreign aid to Ukraine are dead. So what would have him do? He doesn’t control market prices for oil or supply constraints due to COVID. Oh and get ready for higher food prices because of the Ukrainian war. Those wheat fields ain’t getting planted. It’s coming. But short of appeasing a dictator and the Fed raising rates, I don’t know what else you’d have him do. I’m a Dem and see the writing on the wall. It’s on his watch and the Dems are going to get destroyed this fall. However, I don’t see many easy solutions to these problems (and don’t for a sec think the Keystone Pipeline or the border are the reasons for high energy prices. That project was years away from being complete. Immigration would actually stabilize wages.)

Anonymous wrote:Clean energy is not all from solar panels!

There are a lot more ways to make clean energy.

Nuclear energy comes to mind. We ought to be building a lot more nuclear power plants. They are clean and will supply a lot of energy for decades while we get solar energy much more efficient and not dependent on the Chinese or oil.

Scientists are busy developing zillions of ways to create clean energy in ways you've never imagined. It's coming, slowly.

In the meantime, shut all the coal plants, hike the price of gas to $10 per gallon and give subsidies to people with low incomes so they can afford to drive to work. We need to stop using fossil fuels, period. Do what you can to make that happen, one step at a time, one day at a time.

You almost had me until you started with your government control and social welfare blather. Anyhow, nuclear energy is a great solution but unfortunately we are moving away from this due to fear.

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Ah yes, the ole “quick pass a message..er, I mean bill…that will do nothing that we claim it will” move. Wowza no one saw that one coming! Surely people will think the party who passed the “oil and gas price gouging bill” has nothing to do with gas prices now! Good one dems, you’ll definitely win in November! If you cross your fingers really really hard.

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Anonymous wrote:Yet another record for Joe.

And, they are saying it may hit an average of $5.00 before the end of the summer.

We're already there. I paid 4.97 yesterday at the pump.

Dipping into the Strategic Petroleum Reserves had no effect on prices.
Joe is just so bad at presidenting. Not only has he been wrong on every foreign policy issue, as Robert Gates said - he is also wrong on every domestic policy issue.

Anonymous wrote:Yet another record for Joe.

And, they are saying it may hit an average of $5.00 before the end of the summer.

We're already there. I paid 4.97 yesterday at the pump.

Anonymous wrote:Oil gonna bust through $116 today, watch.
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Say good bye to all of those traveling plans when a flight to Disney world costs $2200 per ticket.

Woo hoo! My oil stocks are killing it!

Yet another record for Joe.

And, they are saying it may hit an average of $5.00 before the end of the summer.

Oil gonna bust through $116 today, watch.
😬

Say good bye to all of those traveling plans when a flight to Disney world costs $2200 per ticket.

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Anonymous wrote:Fact - Electricty is produced with 60 to 70% of fossil fuels

Another Fact - It takes 30,000 lbs of Iron Ore to produce 30 lbs of Cobalt for each 1,000 lb EV battery.

Fact: electricity used to be produced with nearly 100% of fossil fuels.

Fact: Republicans have fought all progress toward clean energy for the last thirty years.

Fact: point source pollution is better than non point since it can be regulated, cleaned up and improved.

Fact: a solar array on a home can power your car https://news.energysage.com/solar-panels-and-electric-cars-can-i-use-solar-to-charge-my-vehicle/ (That would be zero carbon pollution for those having trouble keeping up).

Fact: Elon Musk is the largest seller of both solar and EVs in the US

Fact: Democrats hate him

Fact: This is deeply confusing

I dispute your “fact” that Democrats hate him. I don’t know a single democrat who hates him. I have friends who are tired of reading about Musk. But I do not know anyone who hates him.

There is an entire thread on this forum of people who hate Elon Musk bc he grew up in South Africa which makes him ipso facto a racist, and he's taking over Twitter so that he can promote racism. Also, Biden is doing this big American EV push and won't invite Tesla because, again, Elon is an evil foreigner.

What you interpret as hate is just some gentle pushback against the cult of personality he has somehow acquired. I don't think that many people, aside from some terminally online Twitterers, think that his South African upbringing automatically makes him a racist or that he's an evil foreigner. It's just that he's plainly not some sort of brilliant visionary. He's just a dude whose dad owned an emerald mine, and who became incredibly wealthy through a series of acquisitions of companies - to his credit - that he built. He also happens to be a mercurial prick in full public view, a charge which, puzzlingly, his cultist fans deny vehemently.

What and idiotic post. He was raised in Canada with his siblings after the mom fled SAfrica and the ex husband.

“Gentle pushback” of a bunch of obvious lies?

“Personality he somehow acquired” like being very successful in school, business and inventing?

Wow. What leftist websites are posting that garbage? Pls put links down. Hilarious uninformed slander.

I beseech you, turn off your computer and go outside.

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Anonymous wrote:Fact - Electricty is produced with 60 to 70% of fossil fuels

Another Fact - It takes 30,000 lbs of Iron Ore to produce 30 lbs of Cobalt for each 1,000 lb EV battery.

Fact: electricity used to be produced with nearly 100% of fossil fuels.

Fact: Republicans have fought all progress toward clean energy for the last thirty years.

Fact: point source pollution is better than non point since it can be regulated, cleaned up and improved.

Fact: a solar array on a home can power your car https://news.energysage.com/solar-panels-and-electric-cars-can-i-use-solar-to-charge-my-vehicle/ (That would be zero carbon pollution for those having trouble keeping up).

Fact: Elon Musk is the largest seller of both solar and EVs in the US

Fact: Democrats hate him

Fact: This is deeply confusing

I dispute your “fact” that Democrats hate him. I don’t know a single democrat who hates him. I have friends who are tired of reading about Musk. But I do not know anyone who hates him.

There is an entire thread on this forum of people who hate Elon Musk bc he grew up in South Africa which makes him ipso facto a racist, and he's taking over Twitter so that he can promote racism. Also, Biden is doing this big American EV push and won't invite Tesla because, again, Elon is an evil foreigner.

What you interpret as hate is just some gentle pushback against the cult of personality he has somehow acquired. I don't think that many people, aside from some terminally online Twitterers, think that his South African upbringing automatically makes him a racist or that he's an evil foreigner. It's just that he's plainly not some sort of brilliant visionary. He's just a dude whose dad owned an emerald mine, and who became incredibly wealthy through a series of acquisitions of companies - to his credit - that he built. He also happens to be a mercurial prick in full public view, a charge which, puzzlingly, his cultist fans deny vehemently.

What and idiotic post. He was raised in Canada with his siblings after the mom fled SAfrica and the ex husband.

“Gentle pushback” of a bunch of obvious lies?

“Personality he somehow acquired” like being very successful in school, business and inventing?

Wow. What leftist websites are posting that garbage? Pls put links down. Hilarious uninformed slander.

Clean energy is not all from solar panels!

There are a lot more ways to make clean energy.

Nuclear energy comes to mind. We ought to be building a lot more nuclear power plants. They are clean and will supply a lot of energy for decades while we get solar energy much more efficient and not dependent on the Chinese or oil.

Scientists are busy developing zillions of ways to create clean energy in ways you've never imagined. It's coming, slowly.

In the meantime, shut all the coal plants, hike the price of gas to $10 per gallon and give subsidies to people with low incomes so they can afford to drive to work. We need to stop using fossil fuels, period. Do what you can to make that happen, one step at a time, one day at a time.

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Anonymous wrote:Fact - Electricty is produced with 60 to 70% of fossil fuels

Another Fact - It takes 30,000 lbs of Iron Ore to produce 30 lbs of Cobalt for each 1,000 lb EV battery.

Fact: electricity used to be produced with nearly 100% of fossil fuels.

Fact: Republicans have fought all progress toward clean energy for the last thirty years.

Fact: point source pollution is better than non point since it can be regulated, cleaned up and improved.

Fact: a solar array on a home can power your car https://news.energysage.com/solar-panels-and-electric-cars-can-i-use-solar-to-charge-my-vehicle/ (That would be zero carbon pollution for those having trouble keeping up).

Fact: Many wealthy Democrats reside in huge homes and jet around in private planes. They aren't worrying about clean energy or energy consumption. They DO like to admonish others.

Dp- your grandkids suffocate either way.

The point is that it's a universal problem and not about one political party or another.

This is intellectual laziness. It’s not a universal problem in the slightest. The GOP fights tooth and nail to keep as much dirty energy as possible and to keep that dirty energy as dirty as possible. You demand perfection of Democrats and don’t care to comment on the GOP smearing sht all over everything.

GOP’rs would insist on burning coal and oil even if it were far more expensive than solar and renewables. The sheer joy they get from knowingly killing the planet and making people die is worth the price premium for them.

Exactly!! And that goes double for all of India and China who burn way more coal than us per year!