Anonymous
Post 10/14/2019 10:34     Subject: Re:new kavanaugh sexual assault allegations

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Anonymous wrote:This argument is a waste of time. Kavanaugh is on the SC and he's not going anywhere. History is already strongly slanting toward judging his accusers to have been liars. People that don't like Trump/Republicans will find fault with his demeanor/debt/anything else when the sexual assault accusations start to fall apart. People that support him will call it a witch hunt. Nothing will be resolved here and arguing is an exercise in futility and frustration.

Democrats, win in 2020 and hope RBG lives long enough to have not already been replaced by then. Democrats aren't getting 67 seats in the Senate and they aren't packing the court. Kavanaugh will be on the court for the next 30 years. The 2016 election had consequences.

Julie Swetnick and Christine Blasey-Ford are no substitutes for winning elections.

Christine Blasey Ford was telling the truth. The White House spiked the investigation. You support an attempted rapist, a perjurer and a weak, financially compromised political hack.


I still do not understand why she did not call the police immediately after the attack while Kavanaugh may still have been at the party and there may have been witnesses who at least heard the assault. Seems irresponsible on her part.

You can read up on the subject. It was discussed ad nauseum when Blasey Ford came forward. There’s a degree of shock, disbelief, not wanting to believe that that just happened to you, and the fear you won’t be believed.

Turns out that that last fear of hers was very much grounded in reality.


Since you are trafficking in suppositions, let me give you some better reasons: She was afraid of getting into trouble with her parents for being at a party, drinking beer, and putting herself into a compromising position with boys who had been drinking beer. The MoCo police would have taken her to the local precinct, called her parents, and then interviewed her about the sexual assault. It would have been an embarrassment to her and her parents with whom she already had a strained relationship. She made the calculus that nothing really happened so it was best not to bring it up. She did the original coverup and would only shed light on it when her opinions about abortion felt threatened. Yeh, there's a reason she is a psychologist. Most people who enter that profession have their own mental issues to address.



You would think that someone who considered all the ramifications would be able to remember a significant detail - how she got home that night in the days before cellphones and uber.
But, she couldn't. Because, had she shared that detail, the person who she claims "retrieved" her would be yet another person who would testify that her fantasy never happened.

Again, read up on trauma. You just sound ignorant.

And be honest. Even if Bretty came out tomorrow and said, “yeah I tried to rape Christine, and I raped three other women, including a teenager just last year!” you would still think he’s perfectly suited for the job.


You have gone around the bend on this. Your fan fiction about Kavanaugh is eroding your capacity for rational thought.

Don’t insult me.

And it’s not “fan fic” about Bretty; it’s a point about his defenders’ - your - reactions.


You may be surprised to learn there are people who certainly are not Trump supporters but who are disturbed about a process that used baseless accusations as an excuse to drag a man's name through mud to score political points.
Anonymous
Post 10/14/2019 10:06     Subject: Re:new kavanaugh sexual assault allegations

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Anonymous wrote:This argument is a waste of time. Kavanaugh is on the SC and he's not going anywhere. History is already strongly slanting toward judging his accusers to have been liars. People that don't like Trump/Republicans will find fault with his demeanor/debt/anything else when the sexual assault accusations start to fall apart. People that support him will call it a witch hunt. Nothing will be resolved here and arguing is an exercise in futility and frustration.

Democrats, win in 2020 and hope RBG lives long enough to have not already been replaced by then. Democrats aren't getting 67 seats in the Senate and they aren't packing the court. Kavanaugh will be on the court for the next 30 years. The 2016 election had consequences.

Julie Swetnick and Christine Blasey-Ford are no substitutes for winning elections.

Christine Blasey Ford was telling the truth. The White House spiked the investigation. You support an attempted rapist, a perjurer and a weak, financially compromised political hack.


I still do not understand why she did not call the police immediately after the attack while Kavanaugh may still have been at the party and there may have been witnesses who at least heard the assault. Seems irresponsible on her part.

You can read up on the subject. It was discussed ad nauseum when Blasey Ford came forward. There’s a degree of shock, disbelief, not wanting to believe that that just happened to you, and the fear you won’t be believed.

Turns out that that last fear of hers was very much grounded in reality.


Since you are trafficking in suppositions, let me give you some better reasons: She was afraid of getting into trouble with her parents for being at a party, drinking beer, and putting herself into a compromising position with boys who had been drinking beer. The MoCo police would have taken her to the local precinct, called her parents, and then interviewed her about the sexual assault. It would have been an embarrassment to her and her parents with whom she already had a strained relationship. She made the calculus that nothing really happened so it was best not to bring it up. She did the original coverup and would only shed light on it when her opinions about abortion felt threatened. Yeh, there's a reason she is a psychologist. Most people who enter that profession have their own mental issues to address.



You would think that someone who considered all the ramifications would be able to remember a significant detail - how she got home that night in the days before cellphones and uber.
But, she couldn't. Because, had she shared that detail, the person who she claims "retrieved" her would be yet another person who would testify that her fantasy never happened.

Again, read up on trauma. You just sound ignorant.

And be honest. Even if Bretty came out tomorrow and said, “yeah I tried to rape Christine, and I raped three other women, including a teenager just last year!” you would still think he’s perfectly suited for the job.


You have gone around the bend on this. Your fan fiction about Kavanaugh is eroding your capacity for rational thought.

Don’t insult me.

And it’s not “fan fic” about Bretty; it’s a point about his defenders’ - your - reactions.
Anonymous
Post 10/14/2019 10:04     Subject: new kavanaugh sexual assault allegations

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Anonymous wrote:I believe all K’s accusers. Did you see how he behaved at the hearing before the SJC? Did you watch the parody on SNL? Comedy is funny when it mocks reality. We laughed because it was true. K is abusive, misogynist scum who does not deserve his seat on the SCOTUS.


Even the ones who have recanted?
Even Swetnick who accused him of gang rape?
Your critical thinking is incredibly flawed.


One's reaction to an SNL skit now constitutes evidence?

Wow, just wow.
Anonymous
Post 10/14/2019 09:42     Subject: new kavanaugh sexual assault allegations

Anonymous wrote:I believe all K’s accusers. Did you see how he behaved at the hearing before the SJC? Did you watch the parody on SNL? Comedy is funny when it mocks reality. We laughed because it was true. K is abusive, misogynist scum who does not deserve his seat on the SCOTUS.


Even the ones who have recanted?
Even Swetnick who accused him of gang rape?
Your critical thinking is incredibly flawed.
Anonymous
Post 10/14/2019 09:36     Subject: new kavanaugh sexual assault allegations

I believe all K’s accusers. Did you see how he behaved at the hearing before the SJC? Did you watch the parody on SNL? Comedy is funny when it mocks reality. We laughed because it was true. K is abusive, misogynist scum who does not deserve his seat on the SCOTUS.
Anonymous
Post 10/14/2019 09:36     Subject: Re:new kavanaugh sexual assault allegations

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Anonymous wrote:This is what really happened:

Brett "cool dude" Kavanaugh was popular, with the in-crowd, came from a well-to-do family, good looking, and on the football team --every girl's dreamboat. Christine figured she would insert her vagina into the mix and become popular too except that Brett, from a religious background, was not into wanton, immoral girls like Christina. Christina was rejected, and rightfully so, by the righteous and moral Brett Kavanaugh.

Christina has been fuming ever since for being rejected like that. It is why she continues to see a therapist and none of her therapy has ever helped because she continues to hold a grudge against a man who rejected her for not meeting Christian standards.


I am a Kavanaugh supporter, but this is beyond inappropriate.


Agree.
Anonymous
Post 10/14/2019 09:31     Subject: Re:new kavanaugh sexual assault allegations

Anonymous wrote:This is what really happened:

Brett "cool dude" Kavanaugh was popular, with the in-crowd, came from a well-to-do family, good looking, and on the football team --every girl's dreamboat. Christine figured she would insert her vagina into the mix and become popular too except that Brett, from a religious background, was not into wanton, immoral girls like Christina. Christina was rejected, and rightfully so, by the righteous and moral Brett Kavanaugh.

Christina has been fuming ever since for being rejected like that. It is why she continues to see a therapist and none of her therapy has ever helped because she continues to hold a grudge against a man who rejected her for not meeting Christian standards.


I am a Kavanaugh supporter, but this is beyond inappropriate.
Anonymous
Post 10/14/2019 09:27     Subject: Re:new kavanaugh sexual assault allegations

This is what really happened:

Brett "cool dude" Kavanaugh was popular, with the in-crowd, came from a well-to-do family, good looking, and on the football team --every girl's dreamboat. Christine figured she would insert her vagina into the mix and become popular too except that Brett, from a religious background, was not into wanton, immoral girls like Christina. Christina was rejected, and rightfully so, by the righteous and moral Brett Kavanaugh.

Christina has been fuming ever since for being rejected like that. It is why she continues to see a therapist and none of her therapy has ever helped because she continues to hold a grudge against a man who rejected her for not meeting Christian standards.
Anonymous
Post 10/14/2019 08:46     Subject: Re:new kavanaugh sexual assault allegations

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Anonymous wrote:This argument is a waste of time. Kavanaugh is on the SC and he's not going anywhere. History is already strongly slanting toward judging his accusers to have been liars. People that don't like Trump/Republicans will find fault with his demeanor/debt/anything else when the sexual assault accusations start to fall apart. People that support him will call it a witch hunt. Nothing will be resolved here and arguing is an exercise in futility and frustration.

Democrats, win in 2020 and hope RBG lives long enough to have not already been replaced by then. Democrats aren't getting 67 seats in the Senate and they aren't packing the court. Kavanaugh will be on the court for the next 30 years. The 2016 election had consequences.

Julie Swetnick and Christine Blasey-Ford are no substitutes for winning elections.

Christine Blasey Ford was telling the truth. The White House spiked the investigation. You support an attempted rapist, a perjurer and a weak, financially compromised political hack.


I still do not understand why she did not call the police immediately after the attack while Kavanaugh may still have been at the party and there may have been witnesses who at least heard the assault. Seems irresponsible on her part.

You can read up on the subject. It was discussed ad nauseum when Blasey Ford came forward. There’s a degree of shock, disbelief, not wanting to believe that that just happened to you, and the fear you won’t be believed.

Turns out that that last fear of hers was very much grounded in reality.


Since you are trafficking in suppositions, let me give you some better reasons: She was afraid of getting into trouble with her parents for being at a party, drinking beer, and putting herself into a compromising position with boys who had been drinking beer. The MoCo police would have taken her to the local precinct, called her parents, and then interviewed her about the sexual assault. It would have been an embarrassment to her and her parents with whom she already had a strained relationship. She made the calculus that nothing really happened so it was best not to bring it up. She did the original coverup and would only shed light on it when her opinions about abortion felt threatened. Yeh, there's a reason she is a psychologist. Most people who enter that profession have their own mental issues to address.



You would think that someone who considered all the ramifications would be able to remember a significant detail - how she got home that night in the days before cellphones and uber.
But, she couldn't. Because, had she shared that detail, the person who she claims "retrieved" her would be yet another person who would testify that her fantasy never happened.

Again, read up on trauma. You just sound ignorant.

And be honest. Even if Bretty came out tomorrow and said, “yeah I tried to rape Christine, and I raped three other women, including a teenager just last year!” you would still think he’s perfectly suited for the job.


You have gone around the bend on this. Your fan fiction about Kavanaugh is eroding your capacity for rational thought.


Might be nice for them to switch outrage to Matt Lauer?
Anonymous
Post 10/14/2019 08:34     Subject: new kavanaugh sexual assault allegations

Anonymous wrote:And guess what - emergency contraception is part of treatment of sexual assault survivors. Offering emergency contraception is part of the procedures that hospitals are supposed to follow when treating sexual assault survivors, whether they choose to press charges, make a statement to police or allow the hospital to complete the kit and do the physical examination.

It is 100% understandable WHY a sexual assault survivor would have a huge problem with having someone who assaulted her and could limit abortion on the supreme court.

Sexual assault and abortion are closely linked. Kavanaugh being a federal judge was one thing - being a supreme court justice is something else entirely.


You do not need Pilates today, you have stretched quite enough.
Anonymous
Post 10/14/2019 08:31     Subject: Re:new kavanaugh sexual assault allegations

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:This argument is a waste of time. Kavanaugh is on the SC and he's not going anywhere. History is already strongly slanting toward judging his accusers to have been liars. People that don't like Trump/Republicans will find fault with his demeanor/debt/anything else when the sexual assault accusations start to fall apart. People that support him will call it a witch hunt. Nothing will be resolved here and arguing is an exercise in futility and frustration.

Democrats, win in 2020 and hope RBG lives long enough to have not already been replaced by then. Democrats aren't getting 67 seats in the Senate and they aren't packing the court. Kavanaugh will be on the court for the next 30 years. The 2016 election had consequences.

Julie Swetnick and Christine Blasey-Ford are no substitutes for winning elections.

Christine Blasey Ford was telling the truth. The White House spiked the investigation. You support an attempted rapist, a perjurer and a weak, financially compromised political hack.


I still do not understand why she did not call the police immediately after the attack while Kavanaugh may still have been at the party and there may have been witnesses who at least heard the assault. Seems irresponsible on her part.

You can read up on the subject. It was discussed ad nauseum when Blasey Ford came forward. There’s a degree of shock, disbelief, not wanting to believe that that just happened to you, and the fear you won’t be believed.

Turns out that that last fear of hers was very much grounded in reality.


Since you are trafficking in suppositions, let me give you some better reasons: She was afraid of getting into trouble with her parents for being at a party, drinking beer, and putting herself into a compromising position with boys who had been drinking beer. The MoCo police would have taken her to the local precinct, called her parents, and then interviewed her about the sexual assault. It would have been an embarrassment to her and her parents with whom she already had a strained relationship. She made the calculus that nothing really happened so it was best not to bring it up. She did the original coverup and would only shed light on it when her opinions about abortion felt threatened. Yeh, there's a reason she is a psychologist. Most people who enter that profession have their own mental issues to address.



You would think that someone who considered all the ramifications would be able to remember a significant detail - how she got home that night in the days before cellphones and uber.
But, she couldn't. Because, had she shared that detail, the person who she claims "retrieved" her would be yet another person who would testify that her fantasy never happened.

Again, read up on trauma. You just sound ignorant.

And be honest. Even if Bretty came out tomorrow and said, “yeah I tried to rape Christine, and I raped three other women, including a teenager just last year!” you would still think he’s perfectly suited for the job.


You have gone around the bend on this. Your fan fiction about Kavanaugh is eroding your capacity for rational thought.
Anonymous
Post 10/14/2019 08:26     Subject: Re:new kavanaugh sexual assault allegations

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:This argument is a waste of time. Kavanaugh is on the SC and he's not going anywhere. History is already strongly slanting toward judging his accusers to have been liars. People that don't like Trump/Republicans will find fault with his demeanor/debt/anything else when the sexual assault accusations start to fall apart. People that support him will call it a witch hunt. Nothing will be resolved here and arguing is an exercise in futility and frustration.

Democrats, win in 2020 and hope RBG lives long enough to have not already been replaced by then. Democrats aren't getting 67 seats in the Senate and they aren't packing the court. Kavanaugh will be on the court for the next 30 years. The 2016 election had consequences.

Julie Swetnick and Christine Blasey-Ford are no substitutes for winning elections.

Christine Blasey Ford was telling the truth. The White House spiked the investigation. You support an attempted rapist, a perjurer and a weak, financially compromised political hack.


I still do not understand why she did not call the police immediately after the attack while Kavanaugh may still have been at the party and there may have been witnesses who at least heard the assault. Seems irresponsible on her part.


You are joking right? I went to school in bethesda in the 80s. Most women didn't report rape back then and certainly not date rape, because date rape wasn't acknowledged to be a crime. Any girl who'd gone to report what Blasey described would not have been taken seriously. It was a regular and accepted part of behavior then. There might have been whispers about a boy being aggressive and abusive and to stay away from him, but prosecution? No.


No I am not joking. I was a teen in that era in Washington, and if this had been as violent as Blakey claims, we would have gone to our parents and they would have gone to the police who would have investigated. This did happen to girls on my circle and that is what happened. You are acting as if Momtgomery was an antediluvian backwater where girls and women were not taken seriously.
Anonymous
Post 10/14/2019 06:21     Subject: Re:new kavanaugh sexual assault allegations

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Anonymous wrote:This argument is a waste of time. Kavanaugh is on the SC and he's not going anywhere. History is already strongly slanting toward judging his accusers to have been liars. People that don't like Trump/Republicans will find fault with his demeanor/debt/anything else when the sexual assault accusations start to fall apart. People that support him will call it a witch hunt. Nothing will be resolved here and arguing is an exercise in futility and frustration.

Democrats, win in 2020 and hope RBG lives long enough to have not already been replaced by then. Democrats aren't getting 67 seats in the Senate and they aren't packing the court. Kavanaugh will be on the court for the next 30 years. The 2016 election had consequences.

Julie Swetnick and Christine Blasey-Ford are no substitutes for winning elections.

Christine Blasey Ford was telling the truth. The White House spiked the investigation. You support an attempted rapist, a perjurer and a weak, financially compromised political hack.


I still do not understand why she did not call the police immediately after the attack while Kavanaugh may still have been at the party and there may have been witnesses who at least heard the assault. Seems irresponsible on her part.

You can read up on the subject. It was discussed ad nauseum when Blasey Ford came forward. There’s a degree of shock, disbelief, not wanting to believe that that just happened to you, and the fear you won’t be believed.

Turns out that that last fear of hers was very much grounded in reality.


Since you are trafficking in suppositions, let me give you some better reasons: She was afraid of getting into trouble with her parents for being at a party, drinking beer, and putting herself into a compromising position with boys who had been drinking beer. The MoCo police would have taken her to the local precinct, called her parents, and then interviewed her about the sexual assault. It would have been an embarrassment to her and her parents with whom she already had a strained relationship. She made the calculus that nothing really happened so it was best not to bring it up. She did the original coverup and would only shed light on it when her opinions about abortion felt threatened. Yeh, there's a reason she is a psychologist. Most people who enter that profession have their own mental issues to address.



You would think that someone who considered all the ramifications would be able to remember a significant detail - how she got home that night in the days before cellphones and uber.
But, she couldn't. Because, had she shared that detail, the person who she claims "retrieved" her would be yet another person who would testify that her fantasy never happened.

Again, read up on trauma. You just sound ignorant.

And be honest. Even if Bretty came out tomorrow and said, “yeah I tried to rape Christine, and I raped three other women, including a teenager just last year!” you would still think he’s perfectly suited for the job.


DP. WTF? No one would defend someone who admitted to rape, you dumba$$. The point is that he denies this alleged attack ever happened. You can’t simply insist that it did - with zero evidence or corroboration. We all know in your perfect world, you could condemn anyone you wanted, for any reason at all. Here in the US, you can’t do that. Sorry.


AGAIN, you don't know what you are talking about. There does not have to be a rape kit. There does not have to be a witness. Wake up. There was evidence. You are just flat out wrong here. It sounds like you have very little experience with our court system.


There was NO evidence. She made claims. Not one person supposedly present could corroborate it. Not one person could even recall such an event. Her story had huge holes.
And, if you want to discuss the court system - there is no doubt whatsoever that had this been litigated in a court of law, it would have been tossed before it ever went to trial. When there are inconsistencies in your story, and your "witnesses," at least one of whom is her best friend could not recall any incident like this, the case would have been dismissed as a ridiculous slander.
Anonymous
Post 10/14/2019 00:35     Subject: new kavanaugh sexual assault allegations

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Post 10/14/2019 00:31     Subject: Re:new kavanaugh sexual assault allegations

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:This argument is a waste of time. Kavanaugh is on the SC and he's not going anywhere. History is already strongly slanting toward judging his accusers to have been liars. People that don't like Trump/Republicans will find fault with his demeanor/debt/anything else when the sexual assault accusations start to fall apart. People that support him will call it a witch hunt. Nothing will be resolved here and arguing is an exercise in futility and frustration.

Democrats, win in 2020 and hope RBG lives long enough to have not already been replaced by then. Democrats aren't getting 67 seats in the Senate and they aren't packing the court. Kavanaugh will be on the court for the next 30 years. The 2016 election had consequences.

Julie Swetnick and Christine Blasey-Ford are no substitutes for winning elections.

Christine Blasey Ford was telling the truth. The White House spiked the investigation. You support an attempted rapist, a perjurer and a weak, financially compromised political hack.


I still do not understand why she did not call the police immediately after the attack while Kavanaugh may still have been at the party and there may have been witnesses who at least heard the assault. Seems irresponsible on her part.

You can read up on the subject. It was discussed ad nauseum when Blasey Ford came forward. There’s a degree of shock, disbelief, not wanting to believe that that just happened to you, and the fear you won’t be believed.

Turns out that that last fear of hers was very much grounded in reality.


Since you are trafficking in suppositions, let me give you some better reasons: She was afraid of getting into trouble with her parents for being at a party, drinking beer, and putting herself into a compromising position with boys who had been drinking beer. The MoCo police would have taken her to the local precinct, called her parents, and then interviewed her about the sexual assault. It would have been an embarrassment to her and her parents with whom she already had a strained relationship. She made the calculus that nothing really happened so it was best not to bring it up. She did the original coverup and would only shed light on it when her opinions about abortion felt threatened. Yeh, there's a reason she is a psychologist. Most people who enter that profession have their own mental issues to address.



You would think that someone who considered all the ramifications would be able to remember a significant detail - how she got home that night in the days before cellphones and uber.
But, she couldn't. Because, had she shared that detail, the person who she claims "retrieved" her would be yet another person who would testify that her fantasy never happened.

Again, read up on trauma. You just sound ignorant.

And be honest. Even if Bretty came out tomorrow and said, “yeah I tried to rape Christine, and I raped three other women, including a teenager just last year!” you would still think he’s perfectly suited for the job.


DP. WTF? No one would defend someone who admitted to rape, you dumba$$. The point is that he denies this alleged attack ever happened. You can’t simply insist that it did - with zero evidence or corroboration. We all know in your perfect world, you could condemn anyone you wanted, for any reason at all. Here in the US, you can’t do that. Sorry.


AGAIN, you don't know what you are talking about. There does not have to be a rape kit. There does not have to be a witness. Wake up. There was evidence. You are just flat out wrong here. It sounds like you have very little experience with our court system.