Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Protest is constitutionally protected, and, in my view, a moral imperative in time like these.
But protesting what?
These protesters were protesting immigration enforcement from the get-go, before things escalated.
Now 2 people have died and the shooters have not been held accountable or shootings investigated. THAT is worth protesting.
But not lawful immigration enforcement, ugly as it may be.
Wrong. they were protesting the tactics that changed under Bovino/Noem/Trump. This wasn't an issue under Biden. ICE are the ones who excalate, because they are not trained in the tactics they are trying to employ.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Protest is constitutionally protected, and, in my view, a moral imperative in time like these.
Is what these people are doing constitutionally protected protest? They are actively attempting to impede and obstruct federal law enforcement activities. That’s not a constitutionally protected right. IMO, the two deaths we have seen are a tragic consequence of a party telling their supporters to interject themselves into dangerous federal law enforcement operations. It’s not a safe environment for anyone.
Funny how you only question the legality of the protests and not the actions of masked thugs. Total logic fail, you gross traitor. If everyday men hadn’t thrown tea into a harbor, America would have a very different history. Read a goddamn history book.
There “protestors” are rioting because they want open borders and the abolishment of immigration laws. We all saw what their preferred policies bring to the country during the four years of Biden’s regime. No thank you!
Nope, not at all. People have no problem with legal deportations. Obama and Biden deported millions of people without these issues on our streets. Please stop gaslighting about what Fox is telling you. It isn't the truth. Fox paid a billion dollars out of court for lying to you. Stop listening to them.
That’s because the States cooperated with them, what’s changed?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Protest is constitutionally protected, and, in my view, a moral imperative in time like these.
But protesting what?
These protesters were protesting immigration enforcement from the get-go, before things escalated.
Now 2 people have died and the shooters have not been held accountable or shootings investigated. THAT is worth protesting.
But not lawful immigration enforcement, ugly as it may be.
Who put you in charge of what people can and can’t protest?
That's not what PP is saying. What has happened has made this situation something much more than a protest about immigration. This is about an out of control paramilitary force that is routinely, casually, and intentionally violating the Constitution, executing peaceful citizens, and pissing on 250 years of American history and belief.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Protest is constitutionally protected, and, in my view, a moral imperative in time like these.
But protesting what?
These protesters were protesting immigration enforcement from the get-go, before things escalated.
Now 2 people have died and the shooters have not been held accountable or shootings investigated. THAT is worth protesting.
But not lawful immigration enforcement, ugly as it may be.
Who put you in charge of what people can and can’t protest?
That's not what PP is saying. What has happened has made this situation something much more than a protest about immigration. This is about an out of control paramilitary force that is routinely, casually, and intentionally violating the Constitution, executing peaceful citizens, and pissing on 250 years of American history and belief.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Protest is constitutionally protected, and, in my view, a moral imperative in time like these.
Is what these people are doing constitutionally protected protest? They are actively attempting to impede and obstruct federal law enforcement activities. That’s not a constitutionally protected right. IMO, the two deaths we have seen are a tragic consequence of a party telling their supporters to interject themselves into dangerous federal law enforcement operations. It’s not a safe environment for anyone.
Funny how you only question the legality of the protests and not the actions of masked thugs. Total logic fail, you gross traitor. If everyday men hadn’t thrown tea into a harbor, America would have a very different history. Read a goddamn history book.
There “protestors” are rioting because they want open borders and the abolishment of immigration laws. We all saw what their preferred policies bring to the country during the four years of Biden’s regime. No thank you!
Nope, not at all. People have no problem with legal deportations. Obama and Biden deported millions of people without these issues on our streets. Please stop gaslighting about what Fox is telling you. It isn't the truth. Fox paid a billion dollars out of court for lying to you. Stop listening to them.
That’s because the States cooperated with them, what’s changed?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Protest is constitutionally protected, and, in my view, a moral imperative in time like these.
But protesting what?
These protesters were protesting immigration enforcement from the get-go, before things escalated.
Now 2 people have died and the shooters have not been held accountable or shootings investigated. THAT is worth protesting.
But not lawful immigration enforcement, ugly as it may be.
Wrong. they were protesting the tactics that changed under Bovino/Noem/Trump. This wasn't an issue under Biden. ICE are the ones who excalate, because they are not trained in the tactics they are trying to employ.
The rioters escalate by insulting and obstructing our federal law enforcement agents. The rioters interfere with the performance of their jobs.
The only tactic that changed from Biden to Trump is that ICE agents are now enforcing federal immigration laws instead of nullifying it. ICE agents didn’t arrest anyone during Biden’s open borders disaster. Biden wasn’t interested in immigration enforcement, just ushering millions of illegal immigrants into the country and giving them taxpayer funded benefits.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Protest is constitutionally protected, and, in my view, a moral imperative in time like these.
But protesting what?
These protesters were protesting immigration enforcement from the get-go, before things escalated.
Now 2 people have died and the shooters have not been held accountable or shootings investigated. THAT is worth protesting.
But not lawful immigration enforcement, ugly as it may be.
Wrong. they were protesting the tactics that changed under Bovino/Noem/Trump. This wasn't an issue under Biden. ICE are the ones who excalate, because they are not trained in the tactics they are trying to employ.
The rioters escalate by insulting and obstructing our federal law enforcement agents. The rioters interfere with the performance of their jobs.
The only tactic that changed from Biden to Trump is that ICE agents are now enforcing federal immigration laws instead of nullifying it. ICE agents didn’t arrest anyone during Biden’s open borders disaster. Biden wasn’t interested in immigration enforcement, just ushering millions of illegal immigrants into the country and giving them taxpayer funded benefits.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Protest is constitutionally protected, and, in my view, a moral imperative in time like these.
But protesting what?
These protesters were protesting immigration enforcement from the get-go, before things escalated.
Now 2 people have died and the shooters have not been held accountable or shootings investigated. THAT is worth protesting.
But not lawful immigration enforcement, ugly as it may be.
Who put you in charge of what people can and can’t protest?
That's not what PP is saying. What has happened has made this situation something much more than a protest about immigration. This is about an out of control paramilitary force that is routinely, casually, and intentionally violating the Constitution, executing peaceful citizens, and pissing on 250 years of American history and belief.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Protest is constitutionally protected, and, in my view, a moral imperative in time like these.
Is what these people are doing constitutionally protected protest? They are actively attempting to impede and obstruct federal law enforcement activities. That’s not a constitutionally protected right. IMO, the two deaths we have seen are a tragic consequence of a party telling their supporters to interject themselves into dangerous federal law enforcement operations. It’s not a safe environment for anyone.
Funny how you only question the legality of the protests and not the actions of masked thugs. Total logic fail, you gross traitor. If everyday men hadn’t thrown tea into a harbor, America would have a very different history. Read a goddamn history book.
There “protestors” are rioting because they want open borders and the abolishment of immigration laws. We all saw what their preferred policies bring to the country during the four years of Biden’s regime. No thank you!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Protest is constitutionally protected, and, in my view, a moral imperative in time like these.
But protesting what?
These protesters were protesting immigration enforcement from the get-go, before things escalated.
Now 2 people have died and the shooters have not been held accountable or shootings investigated. THAT is worth protesting.
But not lawful immigration enforcement, ugly as it may be.
Wrong. they were protesting the tactics that changed under Bovino/Noem/Trump. This wasn't an issue under Biden. ICE are the ones who excalate, because they are not trained in the tactics they are trying to employ.
The rioters escalate by insulting and obstructing our federal law enforcement agents. The rioters interfere with the performance of their jobs.
The only tactic that changed from Biden to Trump is that ICE agents are now enforcing federal immigration laws instead of nullifying it. ICE agents didn’t arrest anyone during Biden’s open borders disaster. Biden wasn’t interested in immigration enforcement, just ushering millions of illegal immigrants into the country and giving them taxpayer funded benefits.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am curious, what do you all think was going on in the head of the shooter? What could he possibly be thinking? He has been doing this 8 years and presumably hasn't killed someone in cold blood before, at least in public. Not a new recruit with no training. So what was he thinking? I am not trying to justify anything. Just purely curious.
Also, other than trying to block the appropriation bills, which doesn't sound like it would do much anyways, what else can democrats do?
And can Minneapolis bring charges against this guy (and the last guy?). I know feds are not cooperating but can they legally prosecute? It seems in this case, there is plenty of evidence to convict.
When the deceased man was struggling with federal agents, one of the agents saw his gun and yelled “gun”. I believe one of the agents removed the deceased man’s gun during the struggle, but not all of the agents knew that. When the agents are searching the man’s body after he passed, one of them is heard asking “where’s the gun?”
These are trying to do a dangerous job and have protestors/rioters constantly in their faces. They were faced with a man resisting arrest who possessed a gun. I believe that was their mindset.
It’s not a dangerous job.
Says the person typing whatever from a warm home and a cup of java.
It’s a needlessly dangerous job being done voluntarily by the otherwise unemployable dregs of society, and all for the purposes of evil.
A bubble thread of comments by posters who frequently disparage the intelligence of any type of LEO and basically don't believe in law enforcement and would never encourage their kids to become a policeperson or any other type of LEO.
The newly hired ICE agents are not trained LEO, particularly local police forces. YOU are the one trying to tie them together. Most of us understand the difference. Just stop.
I've been on DCUM for over 10 years. The disparagement of LEOs before the current ICE agents' actions is not a new thing here. .
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Protest is constitutionally protected, and, in my view, a moral imperative in time like these.
Is what these people are doing constitutionally protected protest? They are actively attempting to impede and obstruct federal law enforcement activities. That’s not a constitutionally protected right. IMO, the two deaths we have seen are a tragic consequence of a party telling their supporters to interject themselves into dangerous federal law enforcement operations. It’s not a safe environment for anyone.
Funny how you only question the legality of the protests and not the actions of masked thugs. Total logic fail, you gross traitor. If everyday men hadn’t thrown tea into a harbor, America would have a very different history. Read a goddamn history book.
There “protestors” are rioting because they want open borders and the abolishment of immigration laws. We all saw what their preferred policies bring to the country during the four years of Biden’s regime. No thank you!