Anonymous
Post 07/26/2022 16:10     Subject: Everything you know about obesity is wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:So now the malice crowd has resorted to claiming that their shaming prevents obesity. 3/4 of Americans are overweight, and 40% are obese.

Seems unbelievable to me. Although perhaps the shame keeps me from reaching the obese category. I always diet when I creep up and return to a lower number (overweight category). Or maybe it’s genetics because my mother does the same thing. We both lose weight easily when we track, just not enough and we can’t maintain.


That's not genetic. You don't have a genetic disease, you have learned behaviors that you picked up directly from your mother and you copy her disordered eating. That is your normal. As it is for many, many people.


Obesity is, in fact, a genetic disease, what are you talking about?


NP.

Amazing how this genetic predisposition only seems to affect Americans, overwhelmingly.


Ignorance. Genetic markers, and resulting obesity, are most prevalent among Pacific Islanders.


Yes, there are some genetic markers in some pacific islanders that may impact how nutrients are extracted from food. But obesity rates in the PI are overwhelmingly correlated to massive changes in imports and diet in the 20th century - it's a problem of modernity. You want to talk ignorance? Look inwards, friend.


A problem of modernity? So you mean Pacific Islanders are just especially unable to resist chips? They are just especially lazy? Just especially unable to understand they should exercise more? Especially unable to understand WHO guidelines? Explain what you mean...


Just genes, right? Pacific Islanders have always had trending stable amounts of obesity, because "genes?" And this is just in the <50 years.


Why are they getting so fat so fast? They're just the biggest failures on the planet at exercising personal choice?


Changes in diet and being more sedentary. Just like obese people everywhere.
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2022 16:09     Subject: Everything you know about obesity is wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:So now the malice crowd has resorted to claiming that their shaming prevents obesity. 3/4 of Americans are overweight, and 40% are obese.

Seems unbelievable to me. Although perhaps the shame keeps me from reaching the obese category. I always diet when I creep up and return to a lower number (overweight category). Or maybe it’s genetics because my mother does the same thing. We both lose weight easily when we track, just not enough and we can’t maintain.


That's not genetic. You don't have a genetic disease, you have learned behaviors that you picked up directly from your mother and you copy her disordered eating. That is your normal. As it is for many, many people.


Obesity is, in fact, a genetic disease, what are you talking about?


NP.

Amazing how this genetic predisposition only seems to affect Americans, overwhelmingly.


Ignorance. Genetic markers, and resulting obesity, are most prevalent among Pacific Islanders.


Yes, there are some genetic markers in some pacific islanders that may impact how nutrients are extracted from food. But obesity rates in the PI are overwhelmingly correlated to massive changes in imports and diet in the 20th century - it's a problem of modernity. You want to talk ignorance? Look inwards, friend.


A problem of modernity? So you mean Pacific Islanders are just especially unable to resist chips? They are just especially lazy? Just especially unable to understand they should exercise more? Especially unable to understand WHO guidelines? Explain what you mean...


Meaning, the problem of modernity is common in many places - see the Middle East. Parts of Latin America. Increase consumption of calorie dense foods, you're going to gain weight. These populations didn't have an obesity crisis 100+ years ago.



I find this to be an incredibly odd comment. The traditional home made foods of my in-laws, from one of the skinniest countries on the planet, are incredibly calorie-dense. Think oil-soaked rice with small amounts of fatty meats as the go-to dinner. I don't think density is the change here. Salt, sugar, shelf-stable, sure. But not density.


Or *quantity* of calorie dense foods. Eat more than you burn overall, you will gain weight. This is fact.
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2022 16:09     Subject: Everything you know about obesity is wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:So now the malice crowd has resorted to claiming that their shaming prevents obesity. 3/4 of Americans are overweight, and 40% are obese.

Seems unbelievable to me. Although perhaps the shame keeps me from reaching the obese category. I always diet when I creep up and return to a lower number (overweight category). Or maybe it’s genetics because my mother does the same thing. We both lose weight easily when we track, just not enough and we can’t maintain.


That's not genetic. You don't have a genetic disease, you have learned behaviors that you picked up directly from your mother and you copy her disordered eating. That is your normal. As it is for many, many people.


Obesity is, in fact, a genetic disease, what are you talking about?


NP.

Amazing how this genetic predisposition only seems to affect Americans, overwhelmingly.


Ignorance. Genetic markers, and resulting obesity, are most prevalent among Pacific Islanders.


Yes, there are some genetic markers in some pacific islanders that may impact how nutrients are extracted from food. But obesity rates in the PI are overwhelmingly correlated to massive changes in imports and diet in the 20th century - it's a problem of modernity. You want to talk ignorance? Look inwards, friend.


A problem of modernity? So you mean Pacific Islanders are just especially unable to resist chips? They are just especially lazy? Just especially unable to understand they should exercise more? Especially unable to understand WHO guidelines? Explain what you mean...


Just genes, right? Pacific Islanders have always had trending stable amounts of obesity, because "genes?" And this is just in the <50 years.


Why are they getting so fat so fast? They're just the biggest failures on the planet at exercising personal choice?
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2022 16:08     Subject: Everything you know about obesity is wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:So now the malice crowd has resorted to claiming that their shaming prevents obesity. 3/4 of Americans are overweight, and 40% are obese.

Seems unbelievable to me. Although perhaps the shame keeps me from reaching the obese category. I always diet when I creep up and return to a lower number (overweight category). Or maybe it’s genetics because my mother does the same thing. We both lose weight easily when we track, just not enough and we can’t maintain.


That's not genetic. You don't have a genetic disease, you have learned behaviors that you picked up directly from your mother and you copy her disordered eating. That is your normal. As it is for many, many people.


Obesity is, in fact, a genetic disease, what are you talking about?


NP.

Amazing how this genetic predisposition only seems to affect Americans, overwhelmingly.


Ignorance. Genetic markers, and resulting obesity, are most prevalent among Pacific Islanders.


Yes, there are some genetic markers in some pacific islanders that may impact how nutrients are extracted from food. But obesity rates in the PI are overwhelmingly correlated to massive changes in imports and diet in the 20th century - it's a problem of modernity. You want to talk ignorance? Look inwards, friend.


A problem of modernity? So you mean Pacific Islanders are just especially unable to resist chips? They are just especially lazy? Just especially unable to understand they should exercise more? Especially unable to understand WHO guidelines? Explain what you mean...


They also culturally prefer obesity over being skinny so there is that.


Not traditionally. They did not experience outlier rates of obesity prior to WWII. But maybe they are less willing to engage in self-hatred now.
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2022 16:08     Subject: Everything you know about obesity is wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:So now the malice crowd has resorted to claiming that their shaming prevents obesity. 3/4 of Americans are overweight, and 40% are obese.

Seems unbelievable to me. Although perhaps the shame keeps me from reaching the obese category. I always diet when I creep up and return to a lower number (overweight category). Or maybe it’s genetics because my mother does the same thing. We both lose weight easily when we track, just not enough and we can’t maintain.


That's not genetic. You don't have a genetic disease, you have learned behaviors that you picked up directly from your mother and you copy her disordered eating. That is your normal. As it is for many, many people.


Obesity is, in fact, a genetic disease, what are you talking about?


NP.

Amazing how this genetic predisposition only seems to affect Americans, overwhelmingly.


Ignorance. Genetic markers, and resulting obesity, are most prevalent among Pacific Islanders.


Yes, there are some genetic markers in some pacific islanders that may impact how nutrients are extracted from food. But obesity rates in the PI are overwhelmingly correlated to massive changes in imports and diet in the 20th century - it's a problem of modernity. You want to talk ignorance? Look inwards, friend.


A problem of modernity? So you mean Pacific Islanders are just especially unable to resist chips? They are just especially lazy? Just especially unable to understand they should exercise more? Especially unable to understand WHO guidelines? Explain what you mean...


Just genes, right? Pacific Islanders have always had trending stable amounts of obesity, because "genes?" And this is just in the <50 years.
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2022 16:07     Subject: Everything you know about obesity is wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:So now the malice crowd has resorted to claiming that their shaming prevents obesity. 3/4 of Americans are overweight, and 40% are obese.

Seems unbelievable to me. Although perhaps the shame keeps me from reaching the obese category. I always diet when I creep up and return to a lower number (overweight category). Or maybe it’s genetics because my mother does the same thing. We both lose weight easily when we track, just not enough and we can’t maintain.


That's not genetic. You don't have a genetic disease, you have learned behaviors that you picked up directly from your mother and you copy her disordered eating. That is your normal. As it is for many, many people.


Obesity is, in fact, a genetic disease, what are you talking about?


NP.

Amazing how this genetic predisposition only seems to affect Americans, overwhelmingly.


Ignorance. Genetic markers, and resulting obesity, are most prevalent among Pacific Islanders.


Yes, there are some genetic markers in some pacific islanders that may impact how nutrients are extracted from food. But obesity rates in the PI are overwhelmingly correlated to massive changes in imports and diet in the 20th century - it's a problem of modernity. You want to talk ignorance? Look inwards, friend.


A problem of modernity? So you mean Pacific Islanders are just especially unable to resist chips? They are just especially lazy? Just especially unable to understand they should exercise more? Especially unable to understand WHO guidelines? Explain what you mean...


Meaning, the problem of modernity is common in many places - see the Middle East. Parts of Latin America. Increase consumption of calorie dense foods, you're going to gain weight. These populations didn't have an obesity crisis 100+ years ago.



I find this to be an incredibly odd comment. The traditional home made foods of my in-laws, from one of the skinniest countries on the planet, are incredibly calorie-dense. Think oil-soaked rice with small amounts of fatty meats as the go-to dinner. I don't think density is the change here. Salt, sugar, shelf-stable, sure. But not density.
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2022 16:02     Subject: Everything you know about obesity is wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:So now the malice crowd has resorted to claiming that their shaming prevents obesity. 3/4 of Americans are overweight, and 40% are obese.

Seems unbelievable to me. Although perhaps the shame keeps me from reaching the obese category. I always diet when I creep up and return to a lower number (overweight category). Or maybe it’s genetics because my mother does the same thing. We both lose weight easily when we track, just not enough and we can’t maintain.


That's not genetic. You don't have a genetic disease, you have learned behaviors that you picked up directly from your mother and you copy her disordered eating. That is your normal. As it is for many, many people.


Obesity is, in fact, a genetic disease, what are you talking about?


NP.

Amazing how this genetic predisposition only seems to affect Americans, overwhelmingly.


Ignorance. Genetic markers, and resulting obesity, are most prevalent among Pacific Islanders.


Yes, there are some genetic markers in some pacific islanders that may impact how nutrients are extracted from food. But obesity rates in the PI are overwhelmingly correlated to massive changes in imports and diet in the 20th century - it's a problem of modernity. You want to talk ignorance? Look inwards, friend.


A problem of modernity? So you mean Pacific Islanders are just especially unable to resist chips? They are just especially lazy? Just especially unable to understand they should exercise more? Especially unable to understand WHO guidelines? Explain what you mean...


Meaning, the problem of modernity is common in many places - see the Middle East. Parts of Latin America. Increase consumption of calorie dense foods, you're going to gain weight. These populations didn't have an obesity crisis 100+ years ago.

Anonymous
Post 07/26/2022 16:02     Subject: Everything you know about obesity is wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:So now the malice crowd has resorted to claiming that their shaming prevents obesity. 3/4 of Americans are overweight, and 40% are obese.

Seems unbelievable to me. Although perhaps the shame keeps me from reaching the obese category. I always diet when I creep up and return to a lower number (overweight category). Or maybe it’s genetics because my mother does the same thing. We both lose weight easily when we track, just not enough and we can’t maintain.


That's not genetic. You don't have a genetic disease, you have learned behaviors that you picked up directly from your mother and you copy her disordered eating. That is your normal. As it is for many, many people.


Obesity is, in fact, a genetic disease, what are you talking about?


NP.

Amazing how this genetic predisposition only seems to affect Americans, overwhelmingly.


Ignorance. Genetic markers, and resulting obesity, are most prevalent among Pacific Islanders.


Yes, there are some genetic markers in some pacific islanders that may impact how nutrients are extracted from food. But obesity rates in the PI are overwhelmingly correlated to massive changes in imports and diet in the 20th century - it's a problem of modernity. You want to talk ignorance? Look inwards, friend.


A problem of modernity? So you mean Pacific Islanders are just especially unable to resist chips? They are just especially lazy? Just especially unable to understand they should exercise more? Especially unable to understand WHO guidelines? Explain what you mean...


They also culturally prefer obesity over being skinny so there is that.
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2022 15:59     Subject: Everything you know about obesity is wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:So now the malice crowd has resorted to claiming that their shaming prevents obesity. 3/4 of Americans are overweight, and 40% are obese.

Seems unbelievable to me. Although perhaps the shame keeps me from reaching the obese category. I always diet when I creep up and return to a lower number (overweight category). Or maybe it’s genetics because my mother does the same thing. We both lose weight easily when we track, just not enough and we can’t maintain.


That's not genetic. You don't have a genetic disease, you have learned behaviors that you picked up directly from your mother and you copy her disordered eating. That is your normal. As it is for many, many people.


Obesity is, in fact, a genetic disease, what are you talking about?


NP.

Amazing how this genetic predisposition only seems to affect Americans, overwhelmingly.


Ignorance. Genetic markers, and resulting obesity, are most prevalent among Pacific Islanders.


Yes, there are some genetic markers in some pacific islanders that may impact how nutrients are extracted from food. But obesity rates in the PI are overwhelmingly correlated to massive changes in imports and diet in the 20th century - it's a problem of modernity. You want to talk ignorance? Look inwards, friend.


A problem of modernity? So you mean Pacific Islanders are just especially unable to resist chips? They are just especially lazy? Just especially unable to understand they should exercise more? Especially unable to understand WHO guidelines? Explain what you mean...
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2022 15:57     Subject: Everything you know about obesity is wrong.

The top 10 mores obese countries:

Nauru (61.00%)
Cook Islands (55.90%)
Palau (55.30%)
Marshall Islands (52.90%)
Tuvalu (51.60%)
Niue (50.00%)
Tonga (48.20%)
Samoa (47.30%)
Kiribati (46.00%)
Micronesia (45.80%)

But that's probably because there is only a rare genetic component, right? Makes perfect sense.
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2022 15:57     Subject: Everything you know about obesity is wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:So now the malice crowd has resorted to claiming that their shaming prevents obesity. 3/4 of Americans are overweight, and 40% are obese.

Seems unbelievable to me. Although perhaps the shame keeps me from reaching the obese category. I always diet when I creep up and return to a lower number (overweight category). Or maybe it’s genetics because my mother does the same thing. We both lose weight easily when we track, just not enough and we can’t maintain.


That's not genetic. You don't have a genetic disease, you have learned behaviors that you picked up directly from your mother and you copy her disordered eating. That is your normal. As it is for many, many people.


Obesity is, in fact, a genetic disease, what are you talking about?


NP.

Amazing how this genetic predisposition only seems to affect Americans, overwhelmingly.


I saw plenty of overweight Germans in April of this year.


What about 100 years ago?
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2022 15:56     Subject: Everything you know about obesity is wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:So now the malice crowd has resorted to claiming that their shaming prevents obesity. 3/4 of Americans are overweight, and 40% are obese.

Seems unbelievable to me. Although perhaps the shame keeps me from reaching the obese category. I always diet when I creep up and return to a lower number (overweight category). Or maybe it’s genetics because my mother does the same thing. We both lose weight easily when we track, just not enough and we can’t maintain.


That's not genetic. You don't have a genetic disease, you have learned behaviors that you picked up directly from your mother and you copy her disordered eating. That is your normal. As it is for many, many people.


Obesity is, in fact, a genetic disease, what are you talking about?


NP.

Amazing how this genetic predisposition only seems to affect Americans, overwhelmingly.


Ignorance. Genetic markers, and resulting obesity, are most prevalent among Pacific Islanders.


Yes, there are some genetic markers in some pacific islanders that may impact how nutrients are extracted from food. But obesity rates in the PI are overwhelmingly correlated to massive changes in imports and diet in the 20th century - it's a problem of modernity. You want to talk ignorance? Look inwards, friend.
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2022 15:54     Subject: Everything you know about obesity is wrong.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So now the malice crowd has resorted to claiming that their shaming prevents obesity. 3/4 of Americans are overweight, and 40% are obese.

Seems unbelievable to me. Although perhaps the shame keeps me from reaching the obese category. I always diet when I creep up and return to a lower number (overweight category). Or maybe it’s genetics because my mother does the same thing. We both lose weight easily when we track, just not enough and we can’t maintain.


That's not genetic. You don't have a genetic disease, you have learned behaviors that you picked up directly from your mother and you copy her disordered eating. That is your normal. As it is for many, many people.


Obesity is, in fact, a genetic disease, what are you talking about?


NP.

Amazing how this genetic predisposition only seems to affect Americans, overwhelmingly.


I saw plenty of overweight Germans in April of this year.
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2022 15:51     Subject: Everything you know about obesity is wrong.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So now the malice crowd has resorted to claiming that their shaming prevents obesity. 3/4 of Americans are overweight, and 40% are obese.

Seems unbelievable to me. Although perhaps the shame keeps me from reaching the obese category. I always diet when I creep up and return to a lower number (overweight category). Or maybe it’s genetics because my mother does the same thing. We both lose weight easily when we track, just not enough and we can’t maintain.


That's not genetic. You don't have a genetic disease, you have learned behaviors that you picked up directly from your mother and you copy her disordered eating. That is your normal. As it is for many, many people.


Obesity is, in fact, a genetic disease, what are you talking about?


NP.

Amazing how this genetic predisposition only seems to affect Americans, overwhelmingly.


Ignorance. Genetic markers, and resulting obesity, are most prevalent among Pacific Islanders.
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2022 15:42     Subject: Everything you know about obesity is wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:Just wait til a lot of folks get on board with taking Wegovy and the like meds. What will all these shamers do with their moral superiority? Oh I know, it will be what was posted upthread, they'll be shamed for taking medication to help control their weight.


Medication may be necessary for a small portion of people that truly cannot control food intake. But considering that 70% of people are overweight, I’m not buying that all those people have a disorder affecting their ability to control hunger and food intake- which is what the medicine is for



Lolol....hilarious! Didn't even make it 5 minutes. Wegovyis for anyone with a BMI 28. Ozempic is for diabetes being used off label for weight loss. What are you talking about? Google is your friend on who these meds are for and their succes rate.