Anonymous wrote:Glad I wasn’t the only one mourning Toby having to give up his wonderful job and life in San Francisco. That really upset me the entire episode.

It would have been more realistic for Kate to move to SF with the kids and then divorce him because they don’t fit in there.

Anonymous wrote:This show makes no sense anymore. There’s no way that the British guy would go for Kate. Kate is an entitled brat who can’t get over her past. I don’t believe for a second that she’d let a few fights with Toby have her end the marriage. Who writes this shit? The first seasons made sense. This doesn’t.

+1000 It’s like they wanted to wrap up Kate’s story in a pretty bow so they could move on. Very unsatisfying.

Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why Jack was so surprised they were both there in the future if they ended up being such great co-parents and Toby was staying for dinner, they were all there for birthday parties, etc. wouldn’t that mean that for most of his life after they divorced they were both around a lot? Why be so surprised that they’re both at the bar to hear him sing? Just an excuse to repeat the line from his childhood. Dumb.

Hollywood likes to show ex’s getting along wonderfully. I don’t think that happens with MOST people. And before you post saying you get along wonderfully with yours, please note the key word MOST.

Glad I wasn’t the only one mourning Toby having to give up his wonderful job and life in San Francisco. That really upset me the entire episode.

Anonymous wrote:This show makes no sense anymore. There’s no way that the British guy would go for Kate. Kate is an entitled brat who can’t get over her past. I don’t believe for a second that she’d let a few fights with Toby have her end the marriage. Who writes this shit? The first seasons made sense. This doesn’t.

Totally agree! In the real world this just does not happen. Kate is horrible in and out, no redeeming qualities, no way someone like that ends up happily ever after with a normal British guy?!

Anonymous wrote:In a previous episode didn’t Jack say his parents divorce was connected to something with the green egg, the bbq thing? Even showed the scar? Wasn’t that a BIG mis-direct?

I think the line was something like the day his parents marriage imploded.

They seemed to dramatically age Rebecca for Kate’s wedding. I’m assuming it’s about 5 years after her divorce with Toby based on kids age when telling her to say yes.

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Anonymous wrote:So I guess this means that Kate is still alive?

I don’t buy the relationship with Phillip at all. They have zero chemistry.

I don’t think they went that far into the future.

I think the scene with Jack playing in the bar must have been after Rebecca’s death. The death is supposed to be when the twins are teens, so Jack must also be a teen a little older. But I. The bar he’s got to be closer to 20+. Also, in the death scenes when Randall talks to Tony the latter isn’t wearing a wedding ring, which he is in the bar scene.

Good catch!

In a previous episode didn’t Jack say his parents divorce was connected to something with the green egg, the bbq thing? Even showed the scar? Wasn’t that a BIG mis-direct?

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Anonymous wrote:So I guess this means that Kate is still alive?

I don’t buy the relationship with Phillip at all. They have zero chemistry.

I don’t think they went that far into the future.

I think the scene with Jack playing in the bar must have been after Rebecca’s death. The death is supposed to be when the twins are teens, so Jack must also be a teen a little older. But I. The bar he’s got to be closer to 20+. Also, in the death scenes when Randall talks to Tony the latter isn’t wearing a wedding ring, which he is in the bar scene.

Jesus with the bad autocorrect. “But in the bar”… Toby not Tony…

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Anonymous wrote:So I guess this means that Kate is still alive?

I don’t buy the relationship with Phillip at all. They have zero chemistry.

I don’t think they went that far into the future.

I think the scene with Jack playing in the bar must have been after Rebecca’s death. The death is supposed to be when the twins are teens, so Jack must also be a teen a little older. But I. The bar he’s got to be closer to 20+. Also, in the death scenes when Randall talks to Tony the latter isn’t wearing a wedding ring, which he is in the bar scene.

Anonymous wrote:So I guess this means that Kate is still alive?

I don’t buy the relationship with Phillip at all. They have zero chemistry.

I don’t think they went that far into the future.

Anonymous wrote:Okay so definitely not Madison and maybe not Sophie. Can't be Cassidy and don't think the connection with Zoe was ever very strong so...someone new?

Maybe.

I am giving props to the poster that said the future timelines are two timelines because I think that's what's happening - not based on this episode really, but we know older Kevin is married and Kevin is nowhere near ready to be married now.

I still don't really see Phillip and Kate, but whatever.

I loved/hated Miguel telling Randall what was up in the preview. Miguel has been so underappreciated by this whole family. I am glad he says it to Randall.

If Kevin and Sophie knock the boots and she cheats on her husband I think I am just out.

So I guess this means that Kate is still alive?

I don’t buy the relationship with Phillip at all. They have zero chemistry.

Anonymous wrote:For me… that episode totally struck a nerve. It was painful and reminded me a lot of my own marriage.

Same. I'm going to try to be less of a resentful shrew.