Anonymous
Post 10/31/2021 21:07     Subject: Re:Consolidated VA Elections Thread

I am more concerned about a candidate who supports Biden and his policies.

This country is totally on the wrong track - as a whopping 71% of adults believe.

Virginia does not need a governor who will bow to the dictates of a president who doesn't seem to know what the hell he is doing.
Anonymous
Post 10/31/2021 21:06     Subject: Consolidated VA Elections Thread

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:I am surprised people think that if Youngkin is elected Virginia will suddenly turn into Texas if Roe v Wade is overturned and outlaw abortion. The average Virginian is pretty moderate (socially liberal leaning and fiscally conservative leaning). They might be anti-abortion for their own choices but they’re not ones to tell others what to do or impose their personal beliefs on someone else and are pro-choice for others.

I do not see the majority of Virginians finding pro-life measures and outlawing abortion to be a priority and in fact most will find it too overreaching and indecent. They will not support this in the numbers you suggest, not at all.

I have lived in Virginia all my life all over the commonwealth. Virginians aren’t known to be extreme on either end. So this knee jerk reaction that Virginians are chomping at the bit and just waiting for Youngkin to get elected so abortion can be banned is offensive. First there would have to be a law on his desk to sign. I don’t think it will get to that point, not anytime soon.

So stop painting Virginians as extreme right pro life marching single issue voter crazy trains. We’re not.


Well said.

I think you are forgetting about the GOP/Trump supporters outside of NoVa.


Uh, Trump is not on the ballot in Virginia. Did you not know that?



Uh, PP didn't say he was.

GOP and Trump supporters will absolutely be voting for Youngkin.

Trump is actively campaigning for Youngkin.

Youngkin welcomed Trump's endorsement.

Youngkin actively has pushed Trump's lie about "election integrity".

Youngkin is a Trump Republican.

The GOP is actively pushing to restrict voters' rights.

The GOP is actively pushing to restrict women's rights.


Youngkin has NEVER said that the Biden did not legitimately win the 2020 election. He has been asked this several times and not once did he ever say the election was ridged or false.

Trump has never campaigned with Youngkin. He has never been at any rally or event in Virginia for him. Ever. Sure there is some sort of telly rally (whatever that is) but that's it.

This is a state wide election. This is not a national or federal election. Virginians want people from the other 49 states to but out! STOP using us and our election as your prop or stage for whatever national or personal agenda you have. Stop trying to make dots connect that aren't even close. Most Virginians can't stand Trump. He didn't win in 2016 or 2020 there. Trump barely even campaigned in Virginia for 2020 because of it.

I cannot stand people with no real connection to Virginia (they aren't from here, work here, live here) barging in to take advantage of the political moment for their own personal or professional or political gain, taking advantage of the people who do live here, and then come Wednesday they're gone on to their next big thing and we are all still sitting here having to deal with whatever happens. Stay home.

Also no one pays any attention to Amanda Chase, she's a nut job.


+100
And Youngkin has said *repeatedly* that Biden won in 2020.
Anonymous
Post 10/31/2021 21:03     Subject: Re:Consolidated VA Elections Thread

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Glenn Youngkin on abortion:

”I’m going to be really honest with you. The short answer is in this campaign, I can’t. When I’m governor and I have a majority in the House we can start going on offense. But as a campaign topic, sadly, that in fact won’t win my independent votes that I have to get.”


Also Glenn Youngkin on abortion:

”Listen, I am staunchly, unabashedly pro-life.”


Also Glenn Youngkin, going on Breitbart to asset his “absolute” opposition to abortion:

“My religious foundation and the cornerstone of my life teaches me is to protect life before birth and after birth,” he told a Breitbart radio program in April. “I just want Virginians to know I will stand for life,” he added, saying “these are not squishy issues. These are absolute issues.”
Anonymous
Post 10/31/2021 21:02     Subject: Consolidated VA Elections Thread

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am surprised people think that if Youngkin is elected Virginia will suddenly turn into Texas if Roe v Wade is overturned and outlaw abortion. The average Virginian is pretty moderate (socially liberal leaning and fiscally conservative leaning). They might be anti-abortion for their own choices but they’re not ones to tell others what to do or impose their personal beliefs on someone else and are pro-choice for others.

I do not see the majority of Virginians finding pro-life measures and outlawing abortion to be a priority and in fact most will find it too overreaching and indecent. They will not support this in the numbers you suggest, not at all.

I have lived in Virginia all my life all over the commonwealth. Virginians aren’t known to be extreme on either end. So this knee jerk reaction that Virginians are chomping at the bit and just waiting for Youngkin to get elected so abortion can be banned is offensive. First there would have to be a law on his desk to sign. I don’t think it will get to that point, not anytime soon.

So stop painting Virginians as extreme right pro life marching single issue voter crazy trains. We’re not.


Are you kidding? We are talking about the VA GOP legislators here. From 2012-2020, the VA Republicans forced women to get a vaginal probe and 24-hr waiting period before getting an abortion. This was happening up until LAST YEAR when the Ds took over.

And the 2021 Rs are even crazier than the 2012 Rs. Of course they will try to pull that Texas crap here.



Link to the bolded?


https://www.virginiamercury.com/2020/01/29/virginia-lawmakers-vote-to-repeal-mandatory-ultrasound-waiting-period-for-abortion/


Disinformation Urban Moms yet again:

Please, let’s put truth out there. I am pro-choice and that was never actually part of the law that passed, people.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-abortion-virginia/virginia-senate-passes-ultrasound-law-minus-vaginal-probe-idUKTRE81S0DR20120229


Yes, already clarified a few times now.


Up until LAST YEAR (when Ds took over) the GOP required women to get an u/s and wait 24 hrs. Politicians forced unnecessary medical procedures on women for almost a decade.

And that was 2012 Republicans. 2021 Republicans are even more insane. They will not hesitate to push the Texas-style ban.



Have you ever HAD an abortion anywhere? I did. Outside of VA, did ultrasound at 1st appointment. Nothing unusual there.

Education more important. ALL children need a good education. Few get abortions.

Exactly.
Anonymous
Post 10/31/2021 21:00     Subject: Re:Consolidated VA Elections Thread

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Glenn Youngkin on abortion:

”I’m going to be really honest with you. The short answer is in this campaign, I can’t. When I’m governor and I have a majority in the House we can start going on offense. But as a campaign topic, sadly, that in fact won’t win my independent votes that I have to get.”


Also Glenn Youngkin on abortion:

”Listen, I am staunchly, unabashedly pro-life.”


He said he supports abortion for rape, incest and to protect health of mother. And I think a Post article mentioned up until fetal pain.
Anonymous
Post 10/31/2021 20:58     Subject: Consolidated VA Elections Thread

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am surprised people think that if Youngkin is elected Virginia will suddenly turn into Texas if Roe v Wade is overturned and outlaw abortion. The average Virginian is pretty moderate (socially liberal leaning and fiscally conservative leaning). They might be anti-abortion for their own choices but they’re not ones to tell others what to do or impose their personal beliefs on someone else and are pro-choice for others.

I do not see the majority of Virginians finding pro-life measures and outlawing abortion to be a priority and in fact most will find it too overreaching and indecent. They will not support this in the numbers you suggest, not at all.

I have lived in Virginia all my life all over the commonwealth. Virginians aren’t known to be extreme on either end. So this knee jerk reaction that Virginians are chomping at the bit and just waiting for Youngkin to get elected so abortion can be banned is offensive. First there would have to be a law on his desk to sign. I don’t think it will get to that point, not anytime soon.

So stop painting Virginians as extreme right pro life marching single issue voter crazy trains. We’re not.


Are you kidding? We are talking about the VA GOP legislators here. From 2012-2020, the VA Republicans forced women to get a vaginal probe and 24-hr waiting period before getting an abortion. This was happening up until LAST YEAR when the Ds took over.

And the 2021 Rs are even crazier than the 2012 Rs. Of course they will try to pull that Texas crap here.



Link to the bolded?


https://www.virginiamercury.com/2020/01/29/virginia-lawmakers-vote-to-repeal-mandatory-ultrasound-waiting-period-for-abortion/


Disinformation Urban Moms yet again:

Please, let’s put truth out there. I am pro-choice and that was never actually part of the law that passed, people.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-abortion-virginia/virginia-senate-passes-ultrasound-law-minus-vaginal-probe-idUKTRE81S0DR20120229


Yes, already clarified a few times now.


Up until LAST YEAR (when Ds took over) the GOP required women to get an u/s and wait 24 hrs. Politicians forced unnecessary medical procedures on women for almost a decade.

And that was 2012 Republicans. 2021 Republicans are even more insane. They will not hesitate to push the Texas-style ban.



Have you ever HAD an abortion anywhere? I did. Outside of VA, did ultrasound at 1st appointment. Nothing unusual there.

Education more important. ALL children need a good education. Few get abortions.
Anonymous
Post 10/31/2021 20:58     Subject: Re:Consolidated VA Elections Thread

Anonymous wrote:Glenn Youngkin on abortion:

”I’m going to be really honest with you. The short answer is in this campaign, I can’t. When I’m governor and I have a majority in the House we can start going on offense. But as a campaign topic, sadly, that in fact won’t win my independent votes that I have to get.”


Also Glenn Youngkin on abortion:

”Listen, I am staunchly, unabashedly pro-life.”
Anonymous
Post 10/31/2021 20:56     Subject: Consolidated VA Elections Thread

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Even the Hampton Roads Black Caucus has endorsed Glenn Youngkin.

They had ENOUGH of Terry's Tricks.


Hampton Roads Black Caucus is a right-leaning group. The left-leaning counterpart is the Greater Hampton Roads Black Democrats.


Nice try. You know we have access to the internet, right?

The caucus says it’s the first time they’ve endorsed a Republican for governor since they were founded in 2012.
Previously, the caucus endorsed Terry McAuliffe for governor in 2013 and Ralph Northam for governor in 2017.


https://www.wavy.com/news/politics/virginia-politics/hampton-roads-black-caucus-endorses-glenn-youngkin-for-governor/


That “caucus” says a lot of things: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/republican-skewed-organization-hampton-roads-black-caucus-criticized-following-youngkin-endorsement/ar-AAPdj3Q
Anonymous
Post 10/31/2021 20:54     Subject: Consolidated VA Elections Thread

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:When you vote, remember what happened last 1/6 at the Capitol and protect our democracy. Virginia Is for Respectful Lovers.


Virginia is for Lovers of Democracy.

*not* Marxism


Well, we have two capitalist candidates so we are good there.

Oh wait. You do know what Marxism is, right?


Terry thinks government knows what's best for children - like in Communist countries.


Glenn wants to hear what parents have to say.


GY is a fake listener.

Evidence? Don't be such a liar.


None of your club members did anything constructive when “heard” someone had a different opinion. McAuliffe has been approachable and listened when I step out a store to say hello to him and exchange some opinions.
Anonymous
Post 10/31/2021 20:52     Subject: Re:Consolidated VA Elections Thread

Glenn Youngkin on abortion:

”I’m going to be really honest with you. The short answer is in this campaign, I can’t. When I’m governor and I have a majority in the House we can start going on offense. But as a campaign topic, sadly, that in fact won’t win my independent votes that I have to get.”
Anonymous
Post 10/31/2021 20:52     Subject: Consolidated VA Elections Thread

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Even the Hampton Roads Black Caucus has endorsed Glenn Youngkin.

They had ENOUGH of Terry's Tricks.


Hampton Roads Black Caucus is a right-leaning group. The left-leaning counterpart is the Greater Hampton Roads Black Democrats.


Nice try. You know we have access to the internet, right?

The caucus says it’s the first time they’ve endorsed a Republican for governor since they were founded in 2012.
Previously, the caucus endorsed Terry McAuliffe for governor in 2013 and Ralph Northam for governor in 2017.


https://www.wavy.com/news/politics/virginia-politics/hampton-roads-black-caucus-endorses-glenn-youngkin-for-governor/
Anonymous
Post 10/31/2021 20:49     Subject: Consolidated VA Elections Thread

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Jamaican born Republican Winsome Sears is on the Mark Levin Show right now. She's incredible!


RWNJs talking to RWNJs? No thanks.

You should pop your little bubble.
Anonymous
Post 10/31/2021 20:49     Subject: Consolidated VA Elections Thread

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am surprised people think that if Youngkin is elected Virginia will suddenly turn into Texas if Roe v Wade is overturned and outlaw abortion. The average Virginian is pretty moderate (socially liberal leaning and fiscally conservative leaning). They might be anti-abortion for their own choices but they’re not ones to tell others what to do or impose their personal beliefs on someone else and are pro-choice for others.

I do not see the majority of Virginians finding pro-life measures and outlawing abortion to be a priority and in fact most will find it too overreaching and indecent. They will not support this in the numbers you suggest, not at all.

I have lived in Virginia all my life all over the commonwealth. Virginians aren’t known to be extreme on either end. So this knee jerk reaction that Virginians are chomping at the bit and just waiting for Youngkin to get elected so abortion can be banned is offensive. First there would have to be a law on his desk to sign. I don’t think it will get to that point, not anytime soon.

So stop painting Virginians as extreme right pro life marching single issue voter crazy trains. We’re not.


Youngkin's supporters are extreme. The book banning, 'stolen election' ranting, support of the insurrection, etc. are all perfect examples of this.

We know that Youngkin wants to criminalize abortion because of his own public statements on the issue.


PP here, so your reply is a perfect example. You are generalizing all Youngkin voters as extreme based on what? Because Youngkin said he was concerned about election integrity, because SOME supporters were concerned about sexually explicit books being taught in high school, and I’m not sure which supporters said they were in support of the insurrection. Did Youngkin ever say he was in support of the insurrection? If so I’d honestly love to see a citation/link so I can educate myself.

Your post clearly shows you don’t know Virginia state politics or average Virginians. We’re not having a bonfire to burn books. We’re not chaining ourselves together blocking the entrance to Planned Parenthood. I watched in horror on January 6, I even turned someone in to the FBI. The average Virginian doesn’t take kindly to people making false generalizations or stereotypes about us, especially ones that are so way off base. And it will have the opposite effect as intended like that LP shenanigans on Friday. It will only make us like you less, when we prefer just to play well with others and get along.


DP. I don't think you are an extremist and I don't think my neighbors are extremists. I think Sears is an extremist and I think Youngkin is courting extremists. Will he continue to court them after he's elected? Probably.



So yes, I'm voting for abortion in this election. Because Republicans (I used to be one) have made this election about abortion. I am also very concerned about education. But first, abortion.


No -YOU have made this election about abortion. I have heard little about the topic from either candidate


We know McAuliffe will veto any anti-women legislation that the Rs will push.

Youngkin said he can’t talk about it because he’s trying to win “independent votes”.



Try to keep up.


DP. You can bump this as much as you'd like. I'll just continue to post this, each and every time.

“The American Independent” is the left-wing group that posted the video. What a laugh, using “independent” in their name, hoping to fool people into thinking they’re actually independent. Here’s what Media Bias/FactCheck has to say:

LEFT BIAS

These media sources are moderately to strongly biased toward liberal causes through story selection and/or political affiliation. They may utilize strong loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes), publish misleading reports and omit reporting of information that may damage liberal causes. Some sources in this category may be untrustworthy.


NP. It's still a dumb thing to post every time. That's Youngkin in his own words. The partisan leanings of the group that posts the video don't matter. The fact that you feel need to attack someone for showing the world what your candidate really believes is telling, though.
Anonymous
Post 10/31/2021 20:47     Subject: Consolidated VA Elections Thread

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am surprised people think that if Youngkin is elected Virginia will suddenly turn into Texas if Roe v Wade is overturned and outlaw abortion. The average Virginian is pretty moderate (socially liberal leaning and fiscally conservative leaning). They might be anti-abortion for their own choices but they’re not ones to tell others what to do or impose their personal beliefs on someone else and are pro-choice for others.

I do not see the majority of Virginians finding pro-life measures and outlawing abortion to be a priority and in fact most will find it too overreaching and indecent. They will not support this in the numbers you suggest, not at all.

I have lived in Virginia all my life all over the commonwealth. Virginians aren’t known to be extreme on either end. So this knee jerk reaction that Virginians are chomping at the bit and just waiting for Youngkin to get elected so abortion can be banned is offensive. First there would have to be a law on his desk to sign. I don’t think it will get to that point, not anytime soon.

So stop painting Virginians as extreme right pro life marching single issue voter crazy trains. We’re not.


Youngkin's supporters are extreme. The book banning, 'stolen election' ranting, support of the insurrection, etc. are all perfect examples of this.

We know that Youngkin wants to criminalize abortion because of his own public statements on the issue.


PP here, so your reply is a perfect example. You are generalizing all Youngkin voters as extreme based on what? Because Youngkin said he was concerned about election integrity, because SOME supporters were concerned about sexually explicit books being taught in high school, and I’m not sure which supporters said they were in support of the insurrection. Did Youngkin ever say he was in support of the insurrection? If so I’d honestly love to see a citation/link so I can educate myself.

Your post clearly shows you don’t know Virginia state politics or average Virginians. We’re not having a bonfire to burn books. We’re not chaining ourselves together blocking the entrance to Planned Parenthood. I watched in horror on January 6, I even turned someone in to the FBI. The average Virginian doesn’t take kindly to people making false generalizations or stereotypes about us, especially ones that are so way off base. And it will have the opposite effect as intended like that LP shenanigans on Friday. It will only make us like you less, when we prefer just to play well with others and get along.


DP. I don't think you are an extremist and I don't think my neighbors are extremists. I think Sears is an extremist and I think Youngkin is courting extremists. Will he continue to court them after he's elected? Probably.



So yes, I'm voting for abortion in this election. Because Republicans (I used to be one) have made this election about abortion. I am also very concerned about education. But first, abortion.


No -YOU have made this election about abortion. I have heard little about the topic from either candidate


We know McAuliffe will veto any anti-women legislation that the Rs will push.

Youngkin said he can’t talk about it because he’s trying to win “independent votes”.



Try to keep up.


DP. You can bump this as much as you'd like. I'll just continue to post this, each and every time.

“The American Independent” is the left-wing group that posted the video. What a laugh, using “independent” in their name, hoping to fool people into thinking they’re actually independent. Here’s what Media Bias/FactCheck has to say:

LEFT BIAS

These media sources are moderately to strongly biased toward liberal causes through story selection and/or political affiliation. They may utilize strong loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes), publish misleading reports and omit reporting of information that may damage liberal causes. Some sources in this category may be untrustworthy.


I love when you bump this up for everyone to see exactly what Youngkin has to say about abortion.

He won’t talk about it more publicly until he gets those “independent votes”.

It’s pretty funny how, for as much as he doesn’t want people to see it, he keeps bumping it anyway.
Anonymous
Post 10/31/2021 20:46     Subject: Re:Consolidated VA Elections Thread

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The GOP is on the offense against:
- democracy / voting rights
- women’s rights
- LGBTQ+
- truth/facts

Any one of those is a deal breaker for me.

We don’t want any of that in VA.


You can add:
- Any version of American history that isn't confined to the white, christian perspective
- Scientific knowledge
- Books


You guys are not making the case you think you are. Quite the opposite, in fact. Do you realize how desperate you sound?