Anonymous wrote:We’ll, we just dropped two spots (from 6 to 8)on the waitlist, so I don’t think it’s affecting prospective parents.

You don't know if that is people enrolling or people taking themselves off the wait-list.

We’ll, we just dropped two spots (from 6 to 8)on the waitlist, so I don’t think it’s affecting prospective parents.

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Anonymous wrote:Outside observer: seems like it’s the parents who are trying to shut up the worried ones who are the problem. I’d be pissed about this incident at my school. I hate when parents love to boost their school and tell questioners to shut up, sit down. We are all entitled to question our school’s choices and to be asking lots of extra questions right now during covid. We are owed transparency and they need to be straight with us what’s going on. If personnel are positive we need to know.

So yes, there is a we, it goes beyond ITS.

I can appreciate feeling that prickly response. On the flip side, it's frustrating for someone who is willing to extend trust to feel like we're only here as boosters without the ability to think critically. In this online forum it's likely easier to these issues as black and white when I think a lot of people have a more nuanced opinion that gets thrown out/ignored by people at the ends of the spectrum. (or, who don't bother engaging because they feel like they will get lumped in with one side or another when a lot of us don't see sides to this.)

I am willing to believe that the school followed the guidance and is doing its best to keep the kids safe. There's no lack of trust, from me. But there is a lack of transparency from the school. If there really was an outbreak among guidance-compliant adults with a 90% vaccination rate despite the school not doing anything wrong, that's extremely distressing, so I'm skeptical that it's true. But as the hours tick by with no update from the school, I'm starting to wonder. If the PCR tests haven't come back yet, how do they even know they'll be able to staff the school tomorrow?

Did they ever say they planned to update us (meaning parents) with PCR results? I was not under the impression that we were waiting on any particular update. As far as I'm concerned, we are go for launch tomorrow.

They did not say that they would. But I think having a substitute on the first day is the kind of thing parents should be notified about. And if they really do have a big outbreak, that indicates that their current hygiene measures are inadequate and that is also the kind of thing that parents deserve to know. If they don't have a big outbreak, would it be a bad thing to let us know?

So maybe that means the three cases were non-teaching staff.

Almost certainly unvaxxed. Unvaxxed staff are going to be HUGE vectors of covid.

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Anonymous wrote:For the parents that are upset about this, let me ask you this. Do you expect to go into a restaurant and be notified by the restaurant that 7-10 days ago (not sure the timing) they had a guest or employee have Covid?

A restaurant is different because that guest likely would not return at the same time I am there. And I am a vaccinated adult. This is unvaccinated children spending an entire day together with a covid-exposed adult.

For me, it's not about the specific problem that some people tested positive. It's about whether this is a bigger outbreak, indicating either inadequate safety compliance or extreme contagiousness. And whether my kid will have a sub and for how long.

People don't mind if they have a substitute server in a restaurant. But preschool age kids definitely care whether they have a sub.

Do you know what happens to restaurants that have outbreaks of contagious disease? They get shut down.

Wow. Some of you expect so little of your school.

Anonymous wrote:For the parents that are upset about this, let me ask you this. Do you expect to go into a restaurant and be notified by the restaurant that 7-10 days ago (not sure the timing) they had a guest or employee have Covid?

A restaurant is different because that guest likely would not return at the same time I am there. And I am a vaccinated adult. This is unvaccinated children spending an entire day together with a covid-exposed adult.

For me, it's not about the specific problem that some people tested positive. It's about whether this is a bigger outbreak, indicating either inadequate safety compliance or extreme contagiousness. And whether my kid will have a sub and for how long.

For the parents that are upset about this, let me ask you this. Do you expect to go into a restaurant and be notified by the restaurant that 7-10 days ago (not sure the timing) they had a guest or employee have Covid?

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Anonymous wrote:Outside observer: seems like it’s the parents who are trying to shut up the worried ones who are the problem. I’d be pissed about this incident at my school. I hate when parents love to boost their school and tell questioners to shut up, sit down. We are all entitled to question our school’s choices and to be asking lots of extra questions right now during covid. We are owed transparency and they need to be straight with us what’s going on. If personnel are positive we need to know.

So yes, there is a we, it goes beyond ITS.

I can appreciate feeling that prickly response. On the flip side, it's frustrating for someone who is willing to extend trust to feel like we're only here as boosters without the ability to think critically. In this online forum it's likely easier to these issues as black and white when I think a lot of people have a more nuanced opinion that gets thrown out/ignored by people at the ends of the spectrum. (or, who don't bother engaging because they feel like they will get lumped in with one side or another when a lot of us don't see sides to this.)

I am willing to believe that the school followed the guidance and is doing its best to keep the kids safe. There's no lack of trust, from me. But there is a lack of transparency from the school. If there really was an outbreak among guidance-compliant adults with a 90% vaccination rate despite the school not doing anything wrong, that's extremely distressing, so I'm skeptical that it's true. But as the hours tick by with no update from the school, I'm starting to wonder. If the PCR tests haven't come back yet, how do they even know they'll be able to staff the school tomorrow?

Did they ever say they planned to update us (meaning parents) with PCR results? I was not under the impression that we were waiting on any particular update. As far as I'm concerned, we are go for launch tomorrow.

They did not say that they would. But I think having a substitute on the first day is the kind of thing parents should be notified about. And if they really do have a big outbreak, that indicates that their current hygiene measures are inadequate and that is also the kind of thing that parents deserve to know. If they don't have a big outbreak, would it be a bad thing to let us know?

So maybe that means the three cases were non-teaching staff.

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Anonymous wrote:Outside observer: seems like it’s the parents who are trying to shut up the worried ones who are the problem. I’d be pissed about this incident at my school. I hate when parents love to boost their school and tell questioners to shut up, sit down. We are all entitled to question our school’s choices and to be asking lots of extra questions right now during covid. We are owed transparency and they need to be straight with us what’s going on. If personnel are positive we need to know.

So yes, there is a we, it goes beyond ITS.

I can appreciate feeling that prickly response. On the flip side, it's frustrating for someone who is willing to extend trust to feel like we're only here as boosters without the ability to think critically. In this online forum it's likely easier to these issues as black and white when I think a lot of people have a more nuanced opinion that gets thrown out/ignored by people at the ends of the spectrum. (or, who don't bother engaging because they feel like they will get lumped in with one side or another when a lot of us don't see sides to this.)

I am willing to believe that the school followed the guidance and is doing its best to keep the kids safe. There's no lack of trust, from me. But there is a lack of transparency from the school. If there really was an outbreak among guidance-compliant adults with a 90% vaccination rate despite the school not doing anything wrong, that's extremely distressing, so I'm skeptical that it's true. But as the hours tick by with no update from the school, I'm starting to wonder. If the PCR tests haven't come back yet, how do they even know they'll be able to staff the school tomorrow?

Did they ever say they planned to update us (meaning parents) with PCR results? I was not under the impression that we were waiting on any particular update. As far as I'm concerned, we are go for launch tomorrow.

They did not say that they would. But I think having a substitute on the first day is the kind of thing parents should be notified about. And if they really do have a big outbreak, that indicates that their current hygiene measures are inadequate and that is also the kind of thing that parents deserve to know. If they don't have a big outbreak, would it be a bad thing to let us know?

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Anonymous wrote:Outside observer: seems like it’s the parents who are trying to shut up the worried ones who are the problem. I’d be pissed about this incident at my school. I hate when parents love to boost their school and tell questioners to shut up, sit down. We are all entitled to question our school’s choices and to be asking lots of extra questions right now during covid. We are owed transparency and they need to be straight with us what’s going on. If personnel are positive we need to know.

So yes, there is a we, it goes beyond ITS.

I can appreciate feeling that prickly response. On the flip side, it's frustrating for someone who is willing to extend trust to feel like we're only here as boosters without the ability to think critically. In this online forum it's likely easier to these issues as black and white when I think a lot of people have a more nuanced opinion that gets thrown out/ignored by people at the ends of the spectrum. (or, who don't bother engaging because they feel like they will get lumped in with one side or another when a lot of us don't see sides to this.)

I am willing to believe that the school followed the guidance and is doing its best to keep the kids safe. There's no lack of trust, from me. But there is a lack of transparency from the school. If there really was an outbreak among guidance-compliant adults with a 90% vaccination rate despite the school not doing anything wrong, that's extremely distressing, so I'm skeptical that it's true. But as the hours tick by with no update from the school, I'm starting to wonder. If the PCR tests haven't come back yet, how do they even know they'll be able to staff the school tomorrow?

Did they ever say they planned to update us (meaning parents) with PCR results? I was not under the impression that we were waiting on any particular update. As far as I'm concerned, we are go for launch tomorrow.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm sort of thinking there might not be a "we" here

Yes, I am definitely the only person who wants to know how widespread the outbreak is, and whether the infection control procedures are effective. Just crazy ol' me.

you said it

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Anonymous wrote:Outside observer: seems like it’s the parents who are trying to shut up the worried ones who are the problem. I’d be pissed about this incident at my school. I hate when parents love to boost their school and tell questioners to shut up, sit down. We are all entitled to question our school’s choices and to be asking lots of extra questions right now during covid. We are owed transparency and they need to be straight with us what’s going on. If personnel are positive we need to know.

So yes, there is a we, it goes beyond ITS.

I can appreciate feeling that prickly response. On the flip side, it's frustrating for someone who is willing to extend trust to feel like we're only here as boosters without the ability to think critically. In this online forum it's likely easier to these issues as black and white when I think a lot of people have a more nuanced opinion that gets thrown out/ignored by people at the ends of the spectrum. (or, who don't bother engaging because they feel like they will get lumped in with one side or another when a lot of us don't see sides to this.)

I am willing to believe that the school followed the guidance and is doing its best to keep the kids safe. There's no lack of trust, from me. But there is a lack of transparency from the school. If there really was an outbreak among guidance-compliant adults with a 90% vaccination rate despite the school not doing anything wrong, that's extremely distressing, so I'm skeptical that it's true. But as the hours tick by with no update from the school, I'm starting to wonder. If the PCR tests haven't come back yet, how do they even know they'll be able to staff the school tomorrow?

Anonymous wrote:Outside observer: seems like it’s the parents who are trying to shut up the worried ones who are the problem. I’d be pissed about this incident at my school. I hate when parents love to boost their school and tell questioners to shut up, sit down. We are all entitled to question our school’s choices and to be asking lots of extra questions right now during covid. We are owed transparency and they need to be straight with us what’s going on. If personnel are positive we need to know.

So yes, there is a we, it goes beyond ITS.

I can appreciate feeling that prickly response. On the flip side, it's frustrating for someone who is willing to extend trust to feel like we're only here as boosters without the ability to think critically. In this online forum it's likely easier to these issues as black and white when I think a lot of people have a more nuanced opinion that gets thrown out/ignored by people at the ends of the spectrum. (or, who don't bother engaging because they feel like they will get lumped in with one side or another when a lot of us don't see sides to this.)

Anonymous wrote:Outside observer: seems like it’s the parents who are trying to shut up the worried ones who are the problem. I’d be pissed about this incident at my school. I hate when parents love to boost their school and tell questioners to shut up, sit down. We are all entitled to question our school’s choices and to be asking lots of extra questions right now during covid. We are owed transparency and they need to be straight with us what’s going on. If personnel are positive we need to know.

So yes, there is a we, it goes beyond ITS.

This possible outbreak is a test of OSSE's guidance and whether it's sufficient to prevent outbreaks. If following OSSE guidance wasn't enough to prevent an outbreak in a group of adults in a kid-free school building, every school is well and truly f*cked starting next week. This information is relevant to everyone in the city

Outside observer: seems like it’s the parents who are trying to shut up the worried ones who are the problem. I’d be pissed about this incident at my school. I hate when parents love to boost their school and tell questioners to shut up, sit down. We are all entitled to question our school’s choices and to be asking lots of extra questions right now during covid. We are owed transparency and they need to be straight with us what’s going on. If personnel are positive we need to know.

So yes, there is a we, it goes beyond ITS.