Anonymous wrote:Our kids are teens -- 13 and 16. After twice delaying, our niece has finally settled on a wedding date in September. We bought the tickets, RSVPed, and tonight I was looking for her wedding registry when my eyes came accross their no-children policy: "Also, because our celebration will be at a brewery we request no children during the event. "

So... is this mean as nobody under 21? Nobody under 18? No young kids? yes for the older teen but no for the younger one?

The wedding is on the west coast, and it would be our first travel since covid. Kids are not in need of babysitting, but are old enough to be disappointed for not being able to attend their cousin's wedding. Not old enough to leave them home for a few days, but do we fly accross the States through the remains of the pandemics just for half the family to not be able to attend?

We have a large extended family, and have always cherished graduations, weddings or annual celebrations as ways to get together with loved ones. We have not had a chance to do any one of those things post covid, and this is a first event in our family. We are the youngest, and our children are the youngest among the cousins, all of whom are drinking age. So they will be, along with the younger generation of toddlers, the single ones of their cousins uninvited.

Would you politely decline?

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Anonymous wrote:I would skip the wedding on principal. I get that the couple has the “right” to ban kids … but then I also have the right not to go.

^ Just ask what it means! You don't know if the bride and groom meant for no kids to mean no little kids or no older kids, or no one under 21 or no one under 18, or what.

How obtuse. The people who are invited are the ones with their names. On. The. Invitation.

Stoop wheedling, whining, negotiating, and feigning ignorance.

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Anonymous wrote:Ask. We had a weird situation where we weren't going to attend a family wedding because it was "no kids" but when the parents of the bride heard this, we were informed that kids within the close family could come. The couple was later among their friend group to marry so if everyone brought kids it would have been like a toddler daycare. We triple checked with the couple because we didn't want to appear presumptuous, and made it clear that we were fine either way, just wanted to clarify.

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+2 and the most recent invitation I got was a card with details on the website, not an inner/outer envelope thing. Plus, not all of us have the Rules of Etiquette memorized or on our bedside tables. As it happens, I'm the matron of honor in this wedding so there is no way I'd have brought my kids. And the invitation just said "Ms. So-and-so and Mr. So-and-so." So it didn't even cross my mind to bring the kids and we RSVPd for just the two of us. And then a month before the wedding my friend calls and says "what will the kids want in a kids meal" and I said "what? they weren't invited" and she said "oh no, we just assumed everyone would bring their kids!" And this, by the way, is a friend who actually does have the Rules of Etiquette on her bedside table and in fact gave me a copy as a gift when we were younger. (I used it as bedtime reading - it would put me to sleep after just a page.)

TLDR, it never hurts to ask nicely rather than assume.

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Anonymous wrote:Ask. We had a weird situation where we weren't going to attend a family wedding because it was "no kids" but when the parents of the bride heard this, we were informed that kids within the close family could come. The couple was later among their friend group to marry so if everyone brought kids it would have been like a toddler daycare. We triple checked with the couple because we didn't want to appear presumptuous, and made it clear that we were fine either way, just wanted to clarify.

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+2 and the most recent invitation I got was a card with details on the website, not an inner/outer envelope thing. Plus, not all of us have the Rules of Etiquette memorized or on our bedside tables. As it happens, I'm the matron of honor in this wedding so there is no way I'd have brought my kids. And the invitation just said "Ms. So-and-so and Mr. So-and-so." So it didn't even cross my mind to bring the kids and we RSVPd for just the two of us. And then a month before the wedding my friend calls and says "what will the kids want in a kids meal" and I said "what? they weren't invited" and she said "oh no, we just assumed everyone would bring their kids!" And this, by the way, is a friend who actually does have the Rules of Etiquette on her bedside table and in fact gave me a copy as a gift when we were younger. (I used it as bedtime reading - it would put me to sleep after just a page.)

TLDR, it never hurts to ask nicely rather than assume.

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Anonymous wrote:“No kids” family events are such dick moves.

Being so entitled as to think of a ceremony between two people as a “family event” is a dick move. Want a family reunion? Plan, organize and PAY FOR ONE, cheapskate.

In my extended family these are absolutely family events. Out of 16 cousins only one - the very youngest - had a “no kids” wedding.

Probably because they knew it would be mass chaos of screaming, crying, and a all-you-can eat buffet rather than a seated, plated dinner. Don't blame them.

Uh, nope. All the weddings have been seated, plated dinners, no screaming and crying. Lots of kids on the dance floor.

The no-kids wedding was very nice too. Though as someone else noted, it featured a lot of 20-somethings getting drunk, which none of the more family-oriented weddings did!

I can do either. Just pointing out that some of these assumptions are really about your families and if others do it differently from you, it's just different, not wrong. My cousins live all over the country now but we all lived in two states and visited frequently when we were kids. So big events -- weddings, holidays, occasional great-grandparents' birthdays -- really are a giant family reunion. As we get older not everyone can come, but most people really do try. The last cousin's no-kid wedding was a surprise because it was so different from the others -- in fact as the youngest, he attended several of these weddings when he himself was a child and teenager -- but, you know, whatever. It was fine. It definitely cut down on attendance but those of us who went had a nice time.

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Anonymous wrote:Ask. We had a weird situation where we weren't going to attend a family wedding because it was "no kids" but when the parents of the bride heard this, we were informed that kids within the close family could come. The couple was later among their friend group to marry so if everyone brought kids it would have been like a toddler daycare. We triple checked with the couple because we didn't want to appear presumptuous, and made it clear that we were fine either way, just wanted to clarify.

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Anonymous wrote:“No kids” family events are such dick moves.

Being so entitled as to think of a ceremony between two people as a “family event” is a dick move. Want a family reunion? Plan, organize and PAY FOR ONE, cheapskate.

In my extended family these are absolutely family events. Out of 16 cousins only one - the very youngest - had a “no kids” wedding.

Probably because they knew it would be mass chaos of screaming, crying, and a all-you-can eat buffet rather than a seated, plated dinner. Don't blame them.

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Anonymous wrote:There's no interpretation needed. No children mean no, they aren't invited. It's not a slight to your family - it's not about the extended family it’s about the couple.

Go and the kids can entertain themselves for an evening at the hotel. Maybe they can join in there's a brunch or something the next day.

At their ages, they understand adults only & probably wouldn't have much fun anyway at a wedding.

If it’s only about the couple, then I would wish them happiness and good health from the East Coast. That’s all.

Anonymous wrote:There's no interpretation needed. No children mean no, they aren't invited. It's not a slight to your family - it's not about the extended family it’s about the couple.

Go and the kids can entertain themselves for an evening at the hotel. Maybe they can join in there's a brunch or something the next day.

At their ages, they understand adults only & probably wouldn't have much fun anyway at a wedding.

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Anonymous wrote:People who have no kids weddings (especially when the kids are family) are the same people who expect their bridesmaids or groomsmen to spend $1500 on a bachelor/ette weekend and who think of their wedding as a showcase for their narcissistic tendencies. They are tiresome. I’d decline because it’s not covid safe and send a check for a fraction of the cost of a trip out there. It’s almost insulting to be invited across the country when you have a 13 year old and be told the 13 year old cannot come. WTF.

You kid isn't the Christ Child.

I’ve been invited to two weddings since my kids were born, I attended one and stayed home for the other. If I can’t even make a vacation out of a trip to some craphole town for your wedding, I’m not spending the money on your princess day. But I did invite all my young nieces and nephews (married into a big family) when we were married. It really made the day so much more joyous and I’m glad I didn’t let my side of the family pressure me into a no kids wedding. Those kids are my family now. They have happy memories of our wedding. Why are people so bothered by children? I think there’s a lot of trauma under these weird expectations for weddings and hatred of kids. Kids are for the most part better than adults. Nothing worse than your d-bag 20-something friends getting smashed, requesting stupid songs, being obnoxious, and hooking up with each other during a wedding.