Anonymous
Post 08/17/2021 11:40     Subject: s/o pregnant and scared to get vaccinated, alternatives or compromises?
Anonymous wrote:One thought for OP, getting the vax while pregnant is something you can do to provide a level of COVID protection for (you and) your newborn. It is the only way a vaccine can currently be transmitted to a child under 12yrs. As someone previously mentioned all decisions are about weighing risk.

If there's any complication post-vax, is it directly caused by the vax? vs.
If you or the baby contract COVID, could it be prevented or less severe/fatal w/the vax?

Then compare the %. You have to decide what's best for you and your baby.


Odd how we don't say that to people about the decision to bring their baby home by car with or without a car seat.
Anonymous
Post 08/17/2021 11:21     Subject: s/o pregnant and scared to get vaccinated, alternatives or compromises?
One thought for OP, getting the vax while pregnant is something you can do to provide a level of COVID protection for (you and) your newborn. It is the only way a vaccine can currently be transmitted to a child under 12yrs. As someone previously mentioned all decisions are about weighing risk.

If there's any complication post-vax, is it directly caused by the vax? vs.
If you or the baby contract COVID, could it be prevented or less severe/fatal w/the vax?

Then compare the %. You have to decide what's best for you and your baby.
Anonymous
Post 08/17/2021 10:53     Subject: Re:s/o pregnant and scared to get vaccinated, alternatives or compromises?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:You will not get COVID in the hospital. I was just in the hospital for 24 hours for bleeding a few weeks ago (caused by sex - baby and I are fine). Anyway, I got tested in the hospital (negative) and got tested a week after my 24 hour stay (no symptoms, just wanted to be cautious - also negative for COVID). I was in the maternity ward the entire time. I am not vaccinated. None of the nurses looked at me cross-eyed when I told them about my vaccination status. Also, I’m a registered Democrat fwiw and not a Russian bot (hate to disappoint).

Most of these comments have been super unhelpful to OP, but I did think the comment about getting both vaccines either before or after was helpful. I don’t think I’ll get vaccinated before I give birth, but if I change my mind then I would consider doing both either before or after (before it seemed less risky to save the second shot for after I gave birth).



OMG please can it. Your political affiliation does not insulate you from being stupid. People can catch COVID in a hospital. Pregnant women should get vaccinated.


I was responding to the people posting about whether the OP was a bot because she wasn’t vaccinated. I went to Williams and Yale and I’m not stupid. I resent the name calling. This is a difficult situation for pregnant women and bashing people for making decisions that you can’t understand won’t change the trajectory of the pandemic or make people like me reconsider. People like you are insufferable.


Right here with you — Ivy-League educated, advanced degree; did not get the vaccine while pregnant (just completed the vaccine series now, post delivery). I did not get Covid in the hospital or otherwise. This is a terribly fraught decision; my sympathies to you, OP. I desperately wanted to get vaccinated and go live a “normal” life with everyone else. I made the decision I deemed best for my unborn child, after weighing all of the unknowns and knowns and chose to wait until baby was out of my body. You are allowed to make the decision you deem best for your family.


Did you get pertussis or any other vaccine. Require those around you to have?


OP here I know this question isn’t for me but you understand those are different right - tdap took like 7 years to get approved for pregnant women. Yes, I still asked OB if those were safe long and short term and the resounding, clear, complete answer was yes! My family got the tdap and flu shot before seeing my first born. We did too. My kid is fully vaccinated ON schedule. I don’t understand how people don’t get this is not equal in situation to covid vacccine.


Because mRNA vaccines ARE NOT NEW. Because these are extraordinary circumstances. Because the risk of getting covid far outweighs the risk of the vaccine. You are the one making false equivalencies.
Anonymous
Post 08/17/2021 09:36     Subject: Re:s/o pregnant and scared to get vaccinated, alternatives or compromises?
Anonymous wrote:
Did you get pertussis or any other vaccine. Require those around you to have?


OP here I know this question isn’t for me but you understand those are different right - tdap took like 7 years to get approved for pregnant women. Yes, I still asked OB if those were safe long and short term and the resounding, clear, complete answer was yes! My family got the tdap and flu shot before seeing my first born. We did too. My kid is fully vaccinated ON schedule. I don’t understand how people don’t get this is not equal in situation to covid vacccine.


ACOG and SMFM Recommend COVID-19 Vaccination for Pregnant Individuals

Washington, D.C. – The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists (ACOG) and the Society for Maternal-Fetal Medicine (SMFM), the two leading organizations representing specialists in obstetric care, recommend that all pregnant individuals be vaccinated against COVID-19. The organizations’ recommendations in support of vaccination during pregnancy reflect evidence demonstrating the safe use of the COVID-19 vaccines during pregnancy from tens of thousands of reporting individuals over the last several months, as well as the current low vaccination rates and concerning increase in cases.

Data have shown that COVID-19 infection puts pregnant people at increased risk of severe complications and even death; yet only about 22% of pregnant individuals have received one or more doses of the COVID-19 vaccine, according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

In making the strong recommendation in support of vaccination during pregnancy, both national organizations emphasize concerns about significant increases in COVID-19 cases due to the Delta variant and the regional low rates of vaccination in states across the country. Recent data have shown that more than 95% of those who are hospitalized and/or dying from COVID-19 are those who have remained unvaccinated. Pregnant individuals who have decided to wait until after delivery to be vaccinated may be inadvertently exposing themselves to an increased risk of severe illness or death. Those who have recently delivered and were not vaccinated during pregnancy are also strongly encouraged to get vaccinated as soon as possible.

“ACOG encourages its members to enthusiastically recommend vaccination to their patients. This means emphasizing the known safety of the vaccines and the increased risk of severe complications associated with COVID-19 infection, including death, during pregnancy,” said J. Martin Tucker, MD, FACOG, president of ACOG. “It is clear that pregnant people need to feel confident in the decision to choose vaccination, and a strong recommendation from their obstetrician–gynecologist could make a meaningful difference for many pregnant people.”

“COVID-19 vaccination is the best method to reduce maternal and fetal complications of COVID-19 infection among pregnant people,” said William Grobman, MD, MBA, president of SMFM. Maternal-fetal medicine subspecialists—experts in high-risk pregnancy—strongly recommend that pregnant people get vaccinated. Vaccination is safe before, during, or after pregnancy.

“ACOG is recommending vaccination of pregnant individuals because we have evidence of the safe and effective use of the vaccine during pregnancy from many tens of thousands of reporting individuals, because we know that COVID-19 infection puts pregnant people at increased risk of severe complications, and because it is clear from the current vaccination rates that people need to feel confident in the safety and protective value of the COVID-19 vaccines,” added ACOG president Dr. Tucker. “Pregnant individuals should feel confident that choosing COVID-19 vaccination not only protects them but also protects their families and communities.”

Vaccines are our single most effective tool against preventable viruses or diseases, including COVID-19. ACOG and SMFM encourage pregnant individuals to get vaccinated without delay because widespread uptake of the vaccines is the best chance we have to save lives and end this pandemic.

Anonymous
Post 08/17/2021 08:43     Subject: Re:s/o pregnant and scared to get vaccinated, alternatives or compromises?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You will not get COVID in the hospital. I was just in the hospital for 24 hours for bleeding a few weeks ago (caused by sex - baby and I are fine). Anyway, I got tested in the hospital (negative) and got tested a week after my 24 hour stay (no symptoms, just wanted to be cautious - also negative for COVID). I was in the maternity ward the entire time. I am not vaccinated. None of the nurses looked at me cross-eyed when I told them about my vaccination status. Also, I’m a registered Democrat fwiw and not a Russian bot (hate to disappoint).

Most of these comments have been super unhelpful to OP, but I did think the comment about getting both vaccines either before or after was helpful. I don’t think I’ll get vaccinated before I give birth, but if I change my mind then I would consider doing both either before or after (before it seemed less risky to save the second shot for after I gave birth).



OMG please can it. Your political affiliation does not insulate you from being stupid. People can catch COVID in a hospital. Pregnant women should get vaccinated.


I was responding to the people posting about whether the OP was a bot because she wasn’t vaccinated. I went to Williams and Yale and I’m not stupid. I resent the name calling. This is a difficult situation for pregnant women and bashing people for making decisions that you can’t understand won’t change the trajectory of the pandemic or make people like me reconsider. People like you are insufferable.


Right here with you — Ivy-League educated, advanced degree; did not get the vaccine while pregnant (just completed the vaccine series now, post delivery). I did not get Covid in the hospital or otherwise. This is a terribly fraught decision; my sympathies to you, OP. I desperately wanted to get vaccinated and go live a “normal” life with everyone else. I made the decision I deemed best for my unborn child, after weighing all of the unknowns and knowns and chose to wait until baby was out of my body. You are allowed to make the decision you deem best for your family.


Did you get pertussis or any other vaccine. Require those around you to have?


OP here I know this question isn’t for me but you understand those are different right - tdap took like 7 years to get approved for pregnant women. Yes, I still asked OB if those were safe long and short term and the resounding, clear, complete answer was yes! My family got the tdap and flu shot before seeing my first born. We did too. My kid is fully vaccinated ON schedule. I don’t understand how people don’t get this is not equal in situation to covid vacccine.
Anonymous
Post 08/17/2021 08:29     Subject: s/o pregnant and scared to get vaccinated, alternatives or compromises?
Anonymous wrote:OP--why did you even post? It's clear that you already made your decision and you were looking for people to validate it. You didn't get the validation you were seeking because all evidence points to the covid vaccines being safe, effective and important for the safety of pregnant women and their newborn babies in this ongoing pandemic.

Probably time to end this thread. I hope you are safe and healthy for the foreseeable future. Take care!


OP here the thing is I didn’t make my decision when I posted I wondered if anyone was delaying the vaccine until the third trimester or just one dose before delivery or seeing other recommendations like by 33 weeks you’re safer with vaccine or something. I did call my Walgreens to see on protocol for getting it so at least I know those next steps. My inclination is to wait until third trimester at this point. I haven’t seen any people since I posted this thread out of fear / anxiety. We just did a hike last Thursday. My dad also asked if I can get the J&J because it’s closer to flu shot I got in my last pregnancy.
Anonymous
Post 08/17/2021 04:25     Subject: s/o pregnant and scared to get vaccinated, alternatives or compromises?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Oh my god, OP. Get the vaccine. I’m 32 weeks and trying to figure out how to get a booster. I got the vaccines early and terrified they’ll decrease in efficacy and don’t want to be in a COVID coma while they give me a c-section.

-mom and physician.


Have there been any rumblings of pregnant women being eligible for the booster? So far I haven't seen them in the CDC lists


My OB said potentially September.
Anonymous
Post 08/16/2021 11:59     Subject: s/o pregnant and scared to get vaccinated, alternatives or compromises?
OP--why did you even post? It's clear that you already made your decision and you were looking for people to validate it. You didn't get the validation you were seeking because all evidence points to the covid vaccines being safe, effective and important for the safety of pregnant women and their newborn babies in this ongoing pandemic.

Probably time to end this thread. I hope you are safe and healthy for the foreseeable future. Take care!
Anonymous
Post 08/16/2021 11:18     Subject: Re:s/o pregnant and scared to get vaccinated, alternatives or compromises?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You will not get COVID in the hospital. I was just in the hospital for 24 hours for bleeding a few weeks ago (caused by sex - baby and I are fine). Anyway, I got tested in the hospital (negative) and got tested a week after my 24 hour stay (no symptoms, just wanted to be cautious - also negative for COVID). I was in the maternity ward the entire time. I am not vaccinated. None of the nurses looked at me cross-eyed when I told them about my vaccination status. Also, I’m a registered Democrat fwiw and not a Russian bot (hate to disappoint).

Most of these comments have been super unhelpful to OP, but I did think the comment about getting both vaccines either before or after was helpful. I don’t think I’ll get vaccinated before I give birth, but if I change my mind then I would consider doing both either before or after (before it seemed less risky to save the second shot for after I gave birth).



OMG please can it. Your political affiliation does not insulate you from being stupid. People can catch COVID in a hospital. Pregnant women should get vaccinated.


I was responding to the people posting about whether the OP was a bot because she wasn’t vaccinated. I went to Williams and Yale and I’m not stupid. I resent the name calling. This is a difficult situation for pregnant women and bashing people for making decisions that you can’t understand won’t change the trajectory of the pandemic or make people like me reconsider. People like you are insufferable.


Right here with you — Ivy-League educated, advanced degree; did not get the vaccine while pregnant (just completed the vaccine series now, post delivery). I did not get Covid in the hospital or otherwise. This is a terribly fraught decision; my sympathies to you, OP. I desperately wanted to get vaccinated and go live a “normal” life with everyone else. I made the decision I deemed best for my unborn child, after weighing all of the unknowns and knowns and chose to wait until baby was out of my body. You are allowed to make the decision you deem best for your family.


Did you get pertussis or any other vaccine. Require those around you to have?
Anonymous
Post 08/16/2021 10:38     Subject: s/o pregnant and scared to get vaccinated, alternatives or compromises?
Anonymous wrote:OP here I’m screwed either way aren’t I? I do deeply wish I could have gotten pregnant before the pandemic.


No, you're not. EVERYTHING you do has risks. If you take your prenatal vitamin, that has risks. If you DON'T take your prenatal vitamin, that ALSO has risks. The OBs and the MFMs are telling you to get the vaccine, because the risks of NOT getting the vaccine are much, much, much bigger than the risks of getting the vaccine. So go get the vaccine.

Anonymous
Post 08/16/2021 10:32     Subject: s/o pregnant and scared to get vaccinated, alternatives or compromises?
Anonymous wrote:Oh my god, OP. Get the vaccine. I’m 32 weeks and trying to figure out how to get a booster. I got the vaccines early and terrified they’ll decrease in efficacy and don’t want to be in a COVID coma while they give me a c-section.

-mom and physician.


Have there been any rumblings of pregnant women being eligible for the booster? So far I haven't seen them in the CDC lists
Anonymous
Post 08/16/2021 08:23     Subject: s/o pregnant and scared to get vaccinated, alternatives or compromises?
Anonymous wrote:OP here I’m screwed either way aren’t I? I do deeply wish I could have gotten pregnant before the pandemic.


IMO you're only screwed if you don't get the vaccine. Your only other option is to go into strict social distancing and deliver at home, but even that isn't fool proof if your provider has come into contact with COVID.

I read a lot about pregnant covid patients this weekend and from what we're seeing you are 3x more likely to require intubation and deliver prematurely if you get COVID.

Have you considered speaking to a therapist? It seems like you are thinking through all of the options but having difficulty deciding.
Anonymous
Post 08/16/2021 07:41     Subject: Re:s/o pregnant and scared to get vaccinated, alternatives or compromises?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Don't be this woman OP.


https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-new-mom-kristen-Mcmullen-during-covid-fight


She died last week

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/08/13/florida-mother-covid/

"Some doctors are also warning of an uptick of severe cases among pregnant women — a group with a low vaccination rate that has also been found to be subject to a high risk for complications related to the virus...

Elation morphed into fear only three weeks before her due date. McMullen began displaying covid-19 symptoms, which turned into a coronavirus-related pneumonia that hospitalized her July 21, Syverson said. Even with antibiotic treatment, her health did not seem to improve.

Five days later, her aunt said, doctors decided to have an emergency Caesarean section to deliver the baby.

Despite worsening respiratory problems, McMullen had a brief and tender moment with Summer — posing for some pictures before she was wheeled into the ICU. The next time McMullen was able to see her daughter, it was through a cellphone screen...

Medical workers across the country are increasingly admitting pregnant women with covid-19 into the hospital, according to researchers. A thousand miles away in Dallas, Emily Adhikari — a maternal-fetal medicine specialist at UT Southwestern Medical Center — said she has witnessed an uptick in expectant mothers seeking urgent care for covid-related respiratory distress.

“What we want to focus on is delivering babies safely and helping parents start a new family,” she said. “And instead, we are caring for very, very sick pregnant women.”

The much more contagious and rapidly spreading delta variant, combined with the significant risk of complications covid-19 poses for pregnant women, is one of the main factors driving the surge in obstetric cases, Adhikari said.

“As the rest of society has higher and higher rates of vaccination, the pregnant population has lagged,” she said. “So they are exposed to more virus and they are not immune at all. And so that’s the consequence of what we’re seeing right now.”

Misinformation regarding the vaccine’s effects on pregnancy and fertility has spurred hesitancy since the shots first became available. Yet the CDC updated its recommendation Wednesday, encouraging that pregnant women be inoculated after it found no increased risk of miscarriage.

The agency found that women with a baby on the way had a higher risk of ICU admission, mechanical ventilation and death compared with nonpregnant women. It is exactly these patients developing the virus’s most severe symptoms who seemingly had a higher possibility of experiencing adverse pregnancy risks — including premature births, emergency C-sections and stillbirths — Adhikari’s research suggested.

While scientists are still learning about the immune response to covid-19, pregnant women’s lower respiratory reserve — a natural product of carrying a baby — makes them more susceptible to developing respiratory complications or failure during their third trimester, Adhikari said."


I know.
Anonymous
Post 08/16/2021 07:40     Subject: s/o pregnant and scared to get vaccinated, alternatives or compromises?
Anonymous wrote:https://www.ky3.com/2021/08/13/mercy-obgyn-pregnant-women-who-test-positive-covid-19-may-face-serious-complications/

"Since August 1, Dr. Johnson says the labor and delivery department admitted 12 patients who tested positive for COVID-19. Of those 12 patients, five had stillbirths."


Jesus Christ - that's a 50% fetal mortality rate. 5 out of 12 babies in 12 days.
Anonymous
Post 08/16/2021 07:29     Subject: s/o pregnant and scared to get vaccinated, alternatives or compromises?
Anonymous wrote:OP here I’m screwed either way aren’t I? I do deeply wish I could have gotten pregnant before the pandemic.


No, you're not.
Unless you can absolutely guarantee that you and your partner won't come into contact with covid in the next few months (and you can't do that), then your best option is to get the vaccine.