Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know hordes of ND grads. They're fine. Reasonably bright, but nothing to write home about. The Catholic ones are very Catholic.

The only exceptions to this rule are the architecture grads, who are all smart and successful. The rest might as well be OSU or Michigan grads.

Notre Dame's undergrad population is 80 percent Catholic, so you can't know all that many who aren't.

DP: Well, plenty of people are raised Catholic and then don't sustain it by the time you know them as adults (myself included).

And what does that have to do with anything? We are talking about how current Notre Dame students self-identify. Not you and your friends.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know hordes of ND grads. They're fine. Reasonably bright, but nothing to write home about. The Catholic ones are very Catholic.

The only exceptions to this rule are the architecture grads, who are all smart and successful. The rest might as well be OSU or Michigan grads.

Notre Dame's undergrad population is 80 percent Catholic, so you can't know all that many who aren't.

DP: Well, plenty of people are raised Catholic and then don't sustain it by the time you know them as adults (myself included).

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Anonymous wrote:Notre Lame

What are you, 14?

Notre Lame

NP here. I didn't attend ND, but my husband's father did in the late 40s, early 50s. He was a WW2 vet who attended on a GI bill. Son of Italian immigrants who grew up in Brooklyn and very religious. Back then there was a lot more anti-Catholic sentiment, so this was a place where Catholics felt welcome. The university has obviously come a long way since then. Originally it was single sex, but in 1972 it became co-ed. My husband consequently grew up cheering the football team and adoring everything Notre Dame. When the time came, my husband really wanted to go to ND, but his very conservative dad wouldn't not allow it because he was angry that ND had become "too liberal." So instead he went to another top school and did very well, but always had regret of not being able to call himself a domer.

My husband raised our kids watching and attending ND football games...taking a trip out to South Bend every year. He was what people call a subway alum. When my son became old enough to apply to schools, ND was first on his list. He got in, and it was one of the happiest days in my husband's life.

That is a slice what ND is about. It is really hard to understand unless you experienced it yourself. And being Catholic also helps.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ND boosters are as crazy as the UVA boosters.

ND better be damn good for the prices it’s charging.

Yes, but ND is no more expensive than any other top private, but its endowment is massive -- bigger than Duke, Chicago, Wash U, Northwestern and half the Ivies -- and provides generous financial aid if you need it.

Anonymous wrote:I know hordes of ND grads. They're fine. Reasonably bright, but nothing to write home about. The Catholic ones are very Catholic.

The only exceptions to this rule are the architecture grads, who are all smart and successful. The rest might as well be OSU or Michigan grads.

Notre Dame's undergrad population is 80 percent Catholic, so you can't know all that many who aren't.

Anonymous wrote:I know hordes of ND grads. They're fine. Reasonably bright, but nothing to write home about. The Catholic ones are very Catholic.

The only exceptions to this rule are the architecture grads, who are all smart and successful. The rest might as well be OSU or Michigan grads.

But they didn't want to go to OSU or Michigan. There are lots more reasons one may want to attend ND over many schools besides expected level of success and income. Although as many pointed out here, they do pretty darn well, and I will add the level of support among alum is pretty impressive as well.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ok so someone asks for a list. We give them a list. And then they cry foul and start name calling. OK then.

I’m the one who asked for the list. I neither cried foul nor name called. I just disagreed that all the schools on the list are more competitive stats-wise than Notre Dame. Because they’re not. Many may have a lower admit rate than ND’s very low 14 percent, but that’s because ND’s application pool is more self-selective than most of the schools on the list. And we all know that at this level admissions are a total crap shoot. You honestly don’t think there are plenty of ND rejects at Berkeley, Cornell, Rice, Northwestern, etc.? In fact, Notre Dame’s current law dean (who came from Stanford) went to Cornell undergrad after Notre Dame rejected him.

I honestly don't know a single person who would choose Notre Dame over Cornell or Northwestern. Berkeley, either, for that matter. I can't comment on Rice because I don't know anyone from there and am not familiar with the school.

My son did, over Cornell

ND is a football factory. That is all the "Domers" care about.

Anonymous wrote:ND boosters are as crazy as the UVA boosters.

ND better be damn good for the prices it’s charging.

I know hordes of ND grads. They're fine. Reasonably bright, but nothing to write home about. The Catholic ones are very Catholic.

The only exceptions to this rule are the architecture grads, who are all smart and successful. The rest might as well be OSU or Michigan grads.

Anonymous wrote:ND boosters are as crazy as the UVA boosters.

I wouldn't go that far, but they do certainly seem to be thoroughly convinced of their own greatness. Everyone else looks on with bemusement.

ND boosters are as crazy as the UVA boosters.