Anonymous
Post 07/22/2021 11:28     Subject: It’s Over USWNT exposed by age, tactics, and team selection
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Did the team play terribly yesterday?
Yes.

Is it an aging team that needs new blood?
Yes.

Is it hard not to see some misogyny in just how strongly some PPs want to see them fail?
Also yes.


I think most people who are paying attention are simply saying that the team needs to fail in order for US Soccer and people like you to wake up and realize significant changes need to be made.

You along with US Soccer are just the frog in the pot right now.


+1. It wasn’t enough for the Men’s team to not qualify for the World Cup - in the joke that is CONCACAF - to trigger change because numbskulls have been able to hide behind “but, but, but the Women’s Team!”.
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2021 11:17     Subject: It’s Over USWNT exposed by age, tactics, and team selection
Anonymous wrote:Did the team play terribly yesterday?
Yes.

Is it an aging team that needs new blood?
Yes.

Is it hard not to see some misogyny in just how strongly some PPs want to see them fail?
Also yes.


I think most people who are paying attention are simply saying that the team needs to fail in order for US Soccer and people like you to wake up and realize significant changes need to be made.

You along with US Soccer are just the frog in the pot right now.
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2021 11:07     Subject: It’s Over USWNT exposed by age, tactics, and team selection
I think it’s too early to talk about a paradigm shift. The competition brings its A+ game when they play the US and that makes it hard to have mediocre days for the Americans. Every game has to be played at a top level because the competition is going to play with abandon and has nothing to lose. Every sport is like this (like in college football where Alabama or Clemson or Ohio State have to bring it every weekend). Now if the US team loses again or fails to advance out of the group stage maybe it’s time to talk about a power shift in the sport.
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2021 11:03     Subject: It’s Over USWNT exposed by age, tactics, and team selection
Did the team play terribly yesterday?
Yes.

Is it an aging team that needs new blood?
Yes.

Is it hard not to see some misogyny in just how strongly some PPs want to see them fail?
Also yes.
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2021 10:38     Subject: It’s Over USWNT exposed by age, tactics, and team selection
WSJ takes on the team's weaknesses today:

- Experience Became Age
"Alex Morgan and Christen Press, both 32 years old, are the youngest of the Americans’ top five forwards. Carli Lloyd just turned 39. Even after the U.S. added four younger alternate players, including promising 21-year-old midfielder Catarina Macário, the team overall still averages nearly 30 years old."

- The World is Catching Up
- An Untested Coach
- Blip or Signal to Start an Overhaul?
(on this one, I think the answer is "overhaul" no matter what, The question is really, should they have started earlier.)


https://www.wsj.com/articles/rare-loss-reveals-u-s-womens-soccer-teams-weakness-11626948913
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2021 10:32     Subject: It’s Over USWNT exposed by age, tactics, and team selection
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Man city women will either sign players directly from their youth teams (U17-U19) into the first team (if the player is youth national team caliber), or sign established players from around the league or Europe.

A 22 year old out of the US is not signing with Manchester Anything... unless you you would have gone #1, #2, or #3 in the NWSL draft but decided to go to Man City instead.


You have to remember the USWNT contract requires the players to play domestically. They let them play oversea because of the pandemic. Wonder how the new agreement will address this.


That's not true at all. Dahlkamper is playing for Manchester City. Press and Heath are currently without a club. Macario has never played domestically and skipped the NWSL draft to play in Lyon. Not sure where you got that idea from but it isn't accurate.

That said, there is huge incentive for them to play in the NWSL because they can get more money and the desire to support the league. But the competition increase in Europe is going to attract better players from the U.S. who want to play Champions League and that's a good thing because all the European countries are improving a significant rate due to the improvements in club football.


You don't have to "skip the draft" to not play in the league. In fact, you can't skip the draft that is not how a draft works. What likely happened is Macario said she has no intention of playing domestically so don't waste a draft pick on my rights.
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2021 10:29     Subject: It’s Over USWNT exposed by age, tactics, and team selection
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Man city women will either sign players directly from their youth teams (U17-U19) into the first team (if the player is youth national team caliber), or sign established players from around the league or Europe.

A 22 year old out of the US is not signing with Manchester Anything... unless you you would have gone #1, #2, or #3 in the NWSL draft but decided to go to Man City instead.


You have to remember the USWNT contract requires the players to play domestically. They let them play oversea because of the pandemic. Wonder how the new agreement will address this.


That's not true at all. Dahlkamper is playing for Manchester City. Press and Heath are currently without a club. Macario has never played domestically and skipped the NWSL draft to play in Lyon. Not sure where you got that idea from but it isn't accurate.

That said, there is huge incentive for them to play in the NWSL because they can get more money and the desire to support the league. But the competition increase in Europe is going to attract better players from the U.S. who want to play Champions League and that's a good thing because all the European countries are improving a significant rate due to the improvements in club football.
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2021 10:09     Subject: It’s Over USWNT exposed by age, tactics, and team selection
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Man city women will either sign players directly from their youth teams (U17-U19) into the first team (if the player is youth national team caliber), or sign established players from around the league or Europe.

A 22 year old out of the US is not signing with Manchester Anything... unless you you would have gone #1, #2, or #3 in the NWSL draft but decided to go to Man City instead.


You have to remember the USWNT contract requires the players to play domestically. They let them play oversea because of the pandemic. Wonder how the new agreement will address this.


Having the national team prop up a failing league, instead of playing in Europe, will be the downfall of them.
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2021 09:28     Subject: It’s Over USWNT exposed by age, tactics, and team selection
Age is catching up with them.
Anonymous
Post 07/21/2021 23:25     Subject: It’s Over USWNT exposed by age, tactics, and team selection
Anonymous wrote:Man city women will either sign players directly from their youth teams (U17-U19) into the first team (if the player is youth national team caliber), or sign established players from around the league or Europe.

A 22 year old out of the US is not signing with Manchester Anything... unless you you would have gone #1, #2, or #3 in the NWSL draft but decided to go to Man City instead.


You have to remember the USWNT contract requires the players to play domestically. They let them play oversea because of the pandemic. Wonder how the new agreement will address this.
Anonymous
Post 07/21/2021 23:14     Subject: It’s Over USWNT exposed by age, tactics, and team selection
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think as more young women and girls are raised playing soccer around the world, the traditional dominance that the US women’s team enjoyed for so many years will end. It makes for great competition and more enjoyable games, though!


That is what everyone is missing. This was one game. Even though the team looked terrible, it's exciting to see another team play so well. Better soccer for women all over the world is better than the US smashing the competition every match.


Watch the super league or the women’s champions league. That soccer blows away NWSL. They also paid more, have world class facilities and better coaches because those teams are part of a big European club.


The last sentence is the key point. They are part of a “big” European club. For soccer, the US doesn’t have big clubs to begin with much less one that will pay for women to play. Hence, the best women here should go play for the best clubs in Europe. There they will play against the best competition and learn how to play the best brand of soccer. In the meantime, the team will bounce back against NZ, but may lose to or tie Australia. This will trigger a roster rebuild with only Horan and Lavelle (and maybe Press and Dunn) remaining with the new, young crew.


Well here is the problem with that idea. Because of FIFA rules, unless you have a European passport the earliest any of our players can go over there is at 18.

So tell me, how many kids is Arlington or FCV going to develop for Man City when Man City has developed not only their own but can pick from other European Academies?


If the Euro clubs treat the US girls like they treat Brazilian and Argentinian boys, then they’ll open training here and groom them until they are old enough to go play there. Make enough to break even and grow fan base in US too.
Anonymous
Post 07/21/2021 23:05     Subject: It’s Over USWNT exposed by age, tactics, and team selection
Loss yes. Not a big deal yet. Rather have a win? Sure. Call me in a couple of weeks.
Anonymous
Post 07/21/2021 21:49     Subject: It’s Over USWNT exposed by age, tactics, and team selection
Man city women will either sign players directly from their youth teams (U17-U19) into the first team (if the player is youth national team caliber), or sign established players from around the league or Europe.

A 22 year old out of the US is not signing with Manchester Anything... unless you you would have gone #1, #2, or #3 in the NWSL draft but decided to go to Man City instead.
Anonymous
Post 07/21/2021 21:33     Subject: It’s Over USWNT exposed by age, tactics, and team selection
Anonymous wrote:Insufferable


Sorry, but it is just true. If a player isn’t on the USWNT there is little chance of playing professionally in Europe after college.
Anonymous
Post 07/21/2021 20:52     Subject: It’s Over USWNT exposed by age, tactics, and team selection
Insufferable