Anonymous wrote:LOL who is naming their daughter “Gentry”?! “Mary” is hardly a “Southern” name. And “Callaway” and “Saunders” are both last names. I didn’t realize the South had moved on from their “Hayden”, “Brayden”, “Cayden” phase. Not sure which is worse.

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Anonymous wrote:LOL who is naming their daughter “Gentry”?! “Mary” is hardly a “Southern” name. And “Callaway” and “Saunders” are both last names. I didn’t realize the South had moved on from their “Hayden”, “Brayden”, “Cayden” phase. Not sure which is worse.

You are obviously not from the south. Two of my closest friends are Mary Katherine and Mary Grace. I’m Anna Elizabeth (Anna Beth). I know so many girls with Mary as part of their name.

I do as well, none of them are Southern. All are Catholic.

+100. Mary Cambpell as a double-barreled name might ring Southern (I know a lot of Southerners that try to shoehorn maiden names once connected to plantations into their daughters' names), but Mary Katherine and Mary Grace are Catholic as the day is long. And as a Catholic who grew up in Dallas and spent several hours with friends "praying the blood of the Lamb" over me so I would accept Jesus into my heart and be Saved (TM), let me tell you that Catholicism is not really associated with the South.

No one is saying Mary is not also an Irish Catholic thing (I have multiples in the family). But Mary + mom's maiden name/family name is very much a Southern thing. Hell, all the ones I know were Chi Os at Ole Miss, to further stereotype.

"You are obviously not from the south" PP (not OP) is citing "Mary Katherine" and "Mary Grace" as typically Southern names, not Mary + mom's maiden name. Those are Catholic names, not Southern. Irish Catholic communities are strongly associated with northeastern and Rust Belt areas, not the South. OP's example of Mary Campbell is more southern, as I said in the post you're replying to, but Mary Grace and Mary Katherine are not "Southern" names.

Mary Grace and Mary Katherine are not, but that PP also included an Anna + name as an example. And while Mary Katherine is certainly a Catholic name, I know a half dozen double-named women from the South for every Catholic one I know from elsewhere. In my experience, it's far more commonly done there, and I think that was her point.

All double-barreled names are not the same, which is the theme of this subthread. Mary Campbell is qualitatively different from Mary Katherine. OP holding up Mary Campbell as a Southern name was correct; PP saying Mary Katherine is Southern not so much. Anna Elizabeth reads southern; Mary Elizabeth reads Catholic. Double-barreled for the sake of double-barreled is Southern. Double-barreled Saints' names/graces, particularly with Mary as the first, is Catholic. You seem to recognize the difference in some posts but then elide it in others.

So are the Southern protestant Mary Graces supposed to convert to Catholicism in order to be correct in this worldview, or what?

My guess is PP thinks Florida is the South and doesn't actually know anyone from the South outside of Gone with the Wind.

Nope I'm an actual Catholic who grew up in the South (though not Deep South, thank g-d).

I've never seen Catholics do this, only Jews. Interesting.

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Not Catholic or Jewish, but was taught to do this as a matter of respect toward Jews who do not believe it should be spelled out.

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Anonymous wrote:LOL who is naming their daughter “Gentry”?! “Mary” is hardly a “Southern” name. And “Callaway” and “Saunders” are both last names. I didn’t realize the South had moved on from their “Hayden”, “Brayden”, “Cayden” phase. Not sure which is worse.

You clearly aren’t southern if you think “Mary” isn’t southern… keep your dog outta this fight, you have no idea what you are talking about….

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Anonymous wrote:Can somebody name an actual southern woman named Mary? A real person.

Not famous people and I won’t give last names b/c don’t have permission, but here are two of many from my world. Both were Presbyterians.

Mary Virginia - a woman who mentored me as well as my husband when we were in our twenties and thirties. I won’t say in what capacity she mentored us as that might give her identity away (although she is only well known in a very narrow area).

Mary Grace - a rugby playing student at Agnes Scott College, a surprising hotbed of Southern lesbians. This was quite a few years ago.

So your answer is no.

NP- one of the women who started this very popular smocked clothing company is names MARY AGNES. They are from Mississippi. Why don't you call em up and ask if they're Catholic.

Am I allowed to find it hilarious that they cite their Ole Miss sorority affiliation in their bios?
https://graceandjameskids.com/pages/about-us

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Anonymous wrote:LOL who is naming their daughter “Gentry”?! “Mary” is hardly a “Southern” name. And “Callaway” and “Saunders” are both last names. I didn’t realize the South had moved on from their “Hayden”, “Brayden”, “Cayden” phase. Not sure which is worse.

You are obviously not from the south. Two of my closest friends are Mary Katherine and Mary Grace. I’m Anna Elizabeth (Anna Beth). I know so many girls with Mary as part of their name.

I do as well, none of them are Southern. All are Catholic.

+100. Mary Cambpell as a double-barreled name might ring Southern (I know a lot of Southerners that try to shoehorn maiden names once connected to plantations into their daughters' names), but Mary Katherine and Mary Grace are Catholic as the day is long. And as a Catholic who grew up in Dallas and spent several hours with friends "praying the blood of the Lamb" over me so I would accept Jesus into my heart and be Saved (TM), let me tell you that Catholicism is not really associated with the South.

No one is saying Mary is not also an Irish Catholic thing (I have multiples in the family). But Mary + mom's maiden name/family name is very much a Southern thing. Hell, all the ones I know were Chi Os at Ole Miss, to further stereotype.

"You are obviously not from the south" PP (not OP) is citing "Mary Katherine" and "Mary Grace" as typically Southern names, not Mary + mom's maiden name. Those are Catholic names, not Southern. Irish Catholic communities are strongly associated with northeastern and Rust Belt areas, not the South. OP's example of Mary Campbell is more southern, as I said in the post you're replying to, but Mary Grace and Mary Katherine are not "Southern" names.

Mary Grace and Mary Katherine are not, but that PP also included an Anna + name as an example. And while Mary Katherine is certainly a Catholic name, I know a half dozen double-named women from the South for every Catholic one I know from elsewhere. In my experience, it's far more commonly done there, and I think that was her point.

All double-barreled names are not the same, which is the theme of this subthread. Mary Campbell is qualitatively different from Mary Katherine. OP holding up Mary Campbell as a Southern name was correct; PP saying Mary Katherine is Southern not so much. Anna Elizabeth reads southern; Mary Elizabeth reads Catholic. Double-barreled for the sake of double-barreled is Southern. Double-barreled Saints' names/graces, particularly with Mary as the first, is Catholic. You seem to recognize the difference in some posts but then elide it in others.

So are the Southern protestant Mary Graces supposed to convert to Catholicism in order to be correct in this worldview, or what?

My guess is PP thinks Florida is the South and doesn't actually know anyone from the South outside of Gone with the Wind.

Nope I'm an actual Catholic who grew up in the South (though not Deep South, thank g-d).

I've never seen Catholics do this, only Jews. Interesting.

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Anonymous wrote:Can somebody name an actual southern woman named Mary? A real person.

Not famous people and I won’t give last names b/c don’t have permission, but here are two of many from my world. Both were Presbyterians.

Mary Virginia - a woman who mentored me as well as my husband when we were in our twenties and thirties. I won’t say in what capacity she mentored us as that might give her identity away (although she is only well known in a very narrow area).

Mary Grace - a rugby playing student at Agnes Scott College, a surprising hotbed of Southern lesbians. This was quite a few years ago.

So your answer is no.

NP- one of the women who started this very popular smocked clothing company is names MARY AGNES. They are from Mississippi. Why don't you call em up and ask if they're Catholic.

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Anonymous wrote:Can somebody name an actual southern woman named Mary? A real person.

Not famous people and I won’t give last names b/c don’t have permission, but here are two of many from my world. Both were Presbyterians.

Mary Virginia - a woman who mentored me as well as my husband when we were in our twenties and thirties. I won’t say in what capacity she mentored us as that might give her identity away (although she is only well known in a very narrow area).

Mary Grace - a rugby playing student at Agnes Scott College, a surprising hotbed of Southern lesbians. This was quite a few years ago.

So your answer is no.

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Anonymous wrote:LOL who is naming their daughter “Gentry”?! “Mary” is hardly a “Southern” name. And “Callaway” and “Saunders” are both last names. I didn’t realize the South had moved on from their “Hayden”, “Brayden”, “Cayden” phase. Not sure which is worse.

You are obviously not from the south. Two of my closest friends are Mary Katherine and Mary Grace. I’m Anna Elizabeth (Anna Beth). I know so many girls with Mary as part of their name.

I do as well, none of them are Southern. All are Catholic.

+100. Mary Cambpell as a double-barreled name might ring Southern (I know a lot of Southerners that try to shoehorn maiden names once connected to plantations into their daughters' names), but Mary Katherine and Mary Grace are Catholic as the day is long. And as a Catholic who grew up in Dallas and spent several hours with friends "praying the blood of the Lamb" over me so I would accept Jesus into my heart and be Saved (TM), let me tell you that Catholicism is not really associated with the South.

No one is saying Mary is not also an Irish Catholic thing (I have multiples in the family). But Mary + mom's maiden name/family name is very much a Southern thing. Hell, all the ones I know were Chi Os at Ole Miss, to further stereotype.

"You are obviously not from the south" PP (not OP) is citing "Mary Katherine" and "Mary Grace" as typically Southern names, not Mary + mom's maiden name. Those are Catholic names, not Southern. Irish Catholic communities are strongly associated with northeastern and Rust Belt areas, not the South. OP's example of Mary Campbell is more southern, as I said in the post you're replying to, but Mary Grace and Mary Katherine are not "Southern" names.

Mary Grace and Mary Katherine are not, but that PP also included an Anna + name as an example. And while Mary Katherine is certainly a Catholic name, I know a half dozen double-named women from the South for every Catholic one I know from elsewhere. In my experience, it's far more commonly done there, and I think that was her point.

All double-barreled names are not the same, which is the theme of this subthread. Mary Campbell is qualitatively different from Mary Katherine. OP holding up Mary Campbell as a Southern name was correct; PP saying Mary Katherine is Southern not so much. Anna Elizabeth reads southern; Mary Elizabeth reads Catholic. Double-barreled for the sake of double-barreled is Southern. Double-barreled Saints' names/graces, particularly with Mary as the first, is Catholic. You seem to recognize the difference in some posts but then elide it in others.

So are the Southern protestant Mary Graces supposed to convert to Catholicism in order to be correct in this worldview, or what?

My guess is PP thinks Florida is the South and doesn't actually know anyone from the South outside of Gone with the Wind.

Nope I'm an actual Catholic who grew up in the South (though not Deep South, thank g-d).

I've never seen Catholics do this, only Jews. Interesting.

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Anonymous wrote:Can somebody name an actual southern woman named Mary? A real person.

Not famous people and I won’t give last names b/c don’t have permission, but here are two of many from my world. Both were Presbyterians.

Mary Virginia - a woman who mentored me as well as my husband when we were in our twenties and thirties. I won’t say in what capacity she mentored us as that might give her identity away (although she is only well known in a very narrow area).

Mary Grace - a rugby playing student at Agnes Scott College, a surprising hotbed of Southern lesbians. This was quite a few years ago.

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Anonymous wrote:Can somebody name an actual southern woman named Mary? A real person.

Mary Louise Parker was born in South Carolina.

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Anonymous wrote:If you are not from: Alabama, Mississippi, Georgia, the Carolinas and Virginia south of Richmond you really don't get to have an opinion on what is a real Southern name. I mean, you can, but it'll be wrong.

Wait, what? I'm from New Orleans. Are we going to contend, like Texas, it is not the South? And yes, Texas is Texas. I just is.

I am Catholic and thought that Mary signified "Catholic" until I read this thread. But then again, growing up, I didn't really know non-Catholics. After I moved I did but when I meet Marys here, they are either Catholic, Episcopalian or Southern. Sometimes two of the three.

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Anonymous wrote:LOL who is naming their daughter “Gentry”?! “Mary” is hardly a “Southern” name. And “Callaway” and “Saunders” are both last names. I didn’t realize the South had moved on from their “Hayden”, “Brayden”, “Cayden” phase. Not sure which is worse.

You are obviously not from the south. Two of my closest friends are Mary Katherine and Mary Grace. I’m Anna Elizabeth (Anna Beth). I know so many girls with Mary as part of their name.

I do as well, none of them are Southern. All are Catholic.

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Anonymous wrote:This opinion is unpopular with me. Thinking about what little Callaway and Saunders will do at their first frat party makes me shudder

I think the exact same way!