Anonymous
Post 06/07/2021 16:06     Subject: All these new bike lanes that the city put in downturn during the pandemic are dumb

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Anonymous wrote:Also, I would love to see someone pogo-sticking to work in a bike lane. Would probably admire their core strength.


It wouldn't even have to be pogo-sticking to work. Just any pogo-sticking for transportation. I would love to see that too.


We could also just ban cars from going downtown. Of course, every store downtown would go out of business because their customer base would evaporate. But at least we were making an anti-car statement, right?


The only people who spend money downtown are people who drove there and parked? What a really odd idea.


you need to work on your reading comprehension.

It's funny that on the one hand, the person posts that 40% of people that commute take a car [citation needed] and then on the other hand, doesn't understand what a 40% (or even 20%) loss of revenue would do for most businesses downtown.
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right, because bikelanes mean that no car, ever, can ever drive on the road again.


how many bike shops do you think would survive if we cut the number of bicyclists by 40 percent?
Anonymous
Post 06/07/2021 15:42     Subject: All these new bike lanes that the city put in downturn during the pandemic are dumb

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Anonymous wrote:Also, I would love to see someone pogo-sticking to work in a bike lane. Would probably admire their core strength.


It wouldn't even have to be pogo-sticking to work. Just any pogo-sticking for transportation. I would love to see that too.


We could also just ban cars from going downtown. Of course, every store downtown would go out of business because their customer base would evaporate. But at least we were making an anti-car statement, right?


The only people who spend money downtown are people who drove there and parked? What a really odd idea.


you need to work on your reading comprehension.

It's funny that on the one hand, the person posts that 40% of people that commute take a car [citation needed] and then on the other hand, doesn't understand what a 40% (or even 20%) loss of revenue would do for most businesses downtown.


I posted the number. The source is the census bureau. I'm not the same poster you've been arguing with. Me, I think that just as people drive to and park in shopping malls and other locations and then walk around (and shop) they can also do so in downtowns.


they can, but they’ll need to pay market rate for parking, share the road, and drive at a safe speed.
Anonymous
Post 06/07/2021 15:12     Subject: All these new bike lanes that the city put in downturn during the pandemic are dumb

Do you all even know how much a pogo-stickist spends on average at area stores? I bet it would be a lot, just to get off the pogo-stick for a few minutes. Add that to your economic model.
Anonymous
Post 06/07/2021 15:08     Subject: All these new bike lanes that the city put in downturn during the pandemic are dumb

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It's funny that on the one hand, the person posts that 40% of people that commute take a car [citation needed] and then on the other hand, doesn't understand what a 40% (or even 20%) loss of revenue would do for most businesses downtown.


So wait, are these people driving downtown for work (i.e., commuting) or for shopping?

And they would stop coming downtown (for whatever reason) if they couldn't drive there?
Anonymous
Post 06/07/2021 15:06     Subject: All these new bike lanes that the city put in downturn during the pandemic are dumb

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Anonymous wrote:Also, I would love to see someone pogo-sticking to work in a bike lane. Would probably admire their core strength.


It wouldn't even have to be pogo-sticking to work. Just any pogo-sticking for transportation. I would love to see that too.


We could also just ban cars from going downtown. Of course, every store downtown would go out of business because their customer base would evaporate. But at least we were making an anti-car statement, right?


The only people who spend money downtown are people who drove there and parked? What a really odd idea.


you need to work on your reading comprehension.

It's funny that on the one hand, the person posts that 40% of people that commute take a car [citation needed] and then on the other hand, doesn't understand what a 40% (or even 20%) loss of revenue would do for most businesses downtown.


I posted the number. The source is the census bureau. I'm not the same poster you've been arguing with. Me, I think that just as people drive to and park in shopping malls and other locations and then walk around (and shop) they can also do so in downtowns.
Anonymous
Post 06/07/2021 15:03     Subject: All these new bike lanes that the city put in downturn during the pandemic are dumb

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Anonymous wrote:Also, I would love to see someone pogo-sticking to work in a bike lane. Would probably admire their core strength.


It wouldn't even have to be pogo-sticking to work. Just any pogo-sticking for transportation. I would love to see that too.


We could also just ban cars from going downtown. Of course, every store downtown would go out of business because their customer base would evaporate. But at least we were making an anti-car statement, right?


The only people who spend money downtown are people who drove there and parked? What a really odd idea.


you need to work on your reading comprehension.

It's funny that on the one hand, the person posts that 40% of people that commute take a car [citation needed] and then on the other hand, doesn't understand what a 40% (or even 20%) loss of revenue would do for most businesses downtown.
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right, because bikelanes mean that no car, ever, can ever drive on the road again.
Anonymous
Post 06/07/2021 15:02     Subject: All these new bike lanes that the city put in downturn during the pandemic are dumb

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Anonymous wrote:Also, I would love to see someone pogo-sticking to work in a bike lane. Would probably admire their core strength.


It wouldn't even have to be pogo-sticking to work. Just any pogo-sticking for transportation. I would love to see that too.


We could also just ban cars from going downtown. Of course, every store downtown would go out of business because their customer base would evaporate. But at least we were making an anti-car statement, right?


The only people who spend money downtown are people who drove there and parked? What a really odd idea.


you need to work on your reading comprehension.

It's funny that on the one hand, the person posts that 40% of people that commute take a car [citation needed] and then on the other hand, doesn't understand what a 40% (or even 20%) loss of revenue would do for most businesses downtown.


That's not econ 101, that's just your imagination.
Anonymous
Post 06/07/2021 15:01     Subject: Re:All these new bike lanes that the city put in downturn during the pandemic are dumb

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Anonymous wrote:Bike lanes mostly seem like a political statement. 95 percent of Washingtonians will never use them.


bike lanes are one component of making DC streets safer and giving more transit options. It’s not political. And it is more urgent because pedestrian deaths are growing.

This is just a normative statement. A citation for your one factual claim is needed. You also make a category error because pedestrians are not cyclists.


where’s the wanking off emoji? go debate someone else. I’m not here to debate you. The grownups are working - you can go back to your HS debate class sweetie.

This folks is a great example of how people respond when called on their b.s. It’s hilarious.

Next thing you know they’ll be claiming that biking cures cancer and increases virility.
Anonymous
Post 06/07/2021 15:01     Subject: Re:All these new bike lanes that the city put in downturn during the pandemic are dumb

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Anonymous wrote:the weirdest thing about all these bike lanes is...barely...anyone...in...dc...even...rides....bikes....

Yup. On a traveler per space utilization metric, when you count the number of cyclists using the bike lanes it is clear that even cars without any passengers aside from the driver are more efficient on a space bass.

Sure "theoretically" you can fit more bikes into the same space as one car. But that is not what actually happens in practice.



Riding a bike is extremely unappealing to most people.


even if that’s true so what? it’s a form of transit that is cheap, healthy, and good for the environment. and often faster than driving or metro for many DC commutes. it has its place in transit in DC. Some people dislike driving, some boycot metro, some refuse to take the bus.


Do you think we should also set up special lanes for people who want to take pogo sticks to work? Maybe additional lanes for people who prefer roller skates? At some point, it seems sh*tty and weird to take away resources from the vast majority of Washingtonians who choose to drive and hand them over to the tiny number of people who are into bikes.


Oh, maybe we should tear out the sidewalks too if not enough pedestrians use them, in your estimation. Maybe cancel Metro funding because that money should for parking for the greater number of drivers? End parking enforcement, since that's unfair to cars. Creating bike infrastructure is to enable more people to bike. A lot of the current bike lane projects are also geared in part towards traffic calming, to reduce risks of car accidents from speeding and reckless driving.
Anonymous
Post 06/07/2021 14:58     Subject: All these new bike lanes that the city put in downturn during the pandemic are dumb

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Also, I would love to see someone pogo-sticking to work in a bike lane. Would probably admire their core strength.


It wouldn't even have to be pogo-sticking to work. Just any pogo-sticking for transportation. I would love to see that too.


We could also just ban cars from going downtown. Of course, every store downtown would go out of business because their customer base would evaporate. But at least we were making an anti-car statement, right?


The only people who spend money downtown are people who drove there and parked? What a really odd idea.


you need to work on your reading comprehension.

It's funny that on the one hand, the person posts that 40% of people that commute take a car [citation needed] and then on the other hand, doesn't understand what a 40% (or even 20%) loss of revenue would do for most businesses downtown.
Anonymous
Post 06/07/2021 14:34     Subject: All these new bike lanes that the city put in downturn during the pandemic are dumb

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Also, I would love to see someone pogo-sticking to work in a bike lane. Would probably admire their core strength.


It wouldn't even have to be pogo-sticking to work. Just any pogo-sticking for transportation. I would love to see that too.


We could also just ban cars from going downtown. Of course, every store downtown would go out of business because their customer base would evaporate. But at least we were making an anti-car statement, right?


The only people who spend money downtown are people who drove there and parked? What a really odd idea.


you need to work on your reading comprehension.
Anonymous
Post 06/07/2021 14:21     Subject: All these new bike lanes that the city put in downturn during the pandemic are dumb

I'm not in DC but am in an urban area where cars were limited during covid-19 to allow restaurants/stores more space for outdoor dining/shopping. It was a huge success, so much so that the restaurants are lobbying to continue the shutdown of the roads to cars. No loss of business here.

The weirdo anti-biker troll is behind the times.
Anonymous
Post 06/07/2021 14:20     Subject: All these new bike lanes that the city put in downturn during the pandemic are dumb

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Also, I would love to see someone pogo-sticking to work in a bike lane. Would probably admire their core strength.


It wouldn't even have to be pogo-sticking to work. Just any pogo-sticking for transportation. I would love to see that too.


We could also just ban cars from going downtown. Of course, every store downtown would go out of business because their customer base would evaporate. But at least we were making an anti-car statement, right?


The only people who spend money downtown are people who drove there and parked? What a really odd idea.
Anonymous
Post 06/07/2021 14:18     Subject: Re:All these new bike lanes that the city put in downturn during the pandemic are dumb

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Anonymous wrote:the weirdest thing about all these bike lanes is...barely...anyone...in...dc...even...rides....bikes....

Yup. On a traveler per space utilization metric, when you count the number of cyclists using the bike lanes it is clear that even cars without any passengers aside from the driver are more efficient on a space bass.

Sure "theoretically" you can fit more bikes into the same space as one car. But that is not what actually happens in practice.



Riding a bike is extremely unappealing to most people.


even if that’s true so what? it’s a form of transit that is cheap, healthy, and good for the environment. and often faster than driving or metro for many DC commutes. it has its place in transit in DC. Some people dislike driving, some boycot metro, some refuse to take the bus.


Do you think we should also set up special lanes for people who want to take pogo sticks to work? Maybe additional lanes for people who prefer roller skates? At some point, it seems sh*tty and weird to take away resources from the vast majority of Washingtonians who choose to drive and hand them over to the tiny number of people who are into bikes.


In 2017 about 40% of DC commuters travelled by car, including driving alone and carpoolers.
Anonymous
Post 06/07/2021 14:15     Subject: All these new bike lanes that the city put in downturn during the pandemic are dumb

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Anonymous wrote:Also, I would love to see someone pogo-sticking to work in a bike lane. Would probably admire their core strength.


It wouldn't even have to be pogo-sticking to work. Just any pogo-sticking for transportation. I would love to see that too.



We could also just ban cars from going downtown. Of course, every store downtown would go out of business because their customer base would evaporate. But at least we were making an anti-car statement, right?


You think bike shops would go out of business if cars were banned downtown?? I'm mean that's just one example, but clearly you've never been to car-free places.