Anonymous wrote:My wealthy aunt is still very fit compared to my mom, her poorer sister. For those two, I think it’s because my aunt hasn’t worked a job since her mid 20s. She has plenty of time to exercise, could always afford trainer if she wanted one, had a pool to swim laps in.

My single working mom never had time or money to belong to a gym. She cooks and eats healthy but never got “fit” so didn’t build the muscle mass to help with her metabolism.

This is interesting. I always figured it was harder for nonworking people to stay thin because they have much more time to sit around and think about what to eat, and then eat it.

I've always made staying slim a priority, rich or poor. I didn't grow up wealthy but I am now (HHI 7 figures). When I was in my 20s and childless, I walked a lot to stay slim. Walking is free! And I had all the time in the world to do it. Now that I've got a house full of kids in addition to my busy career, I get my workouts in at 5 AM at a gym, where I take classes 4x/week. It's usually painful to wake up that early, but I gotta do it. My parents are seriously fatphobic (despite not being wealthy) and drummed that into me growing up. There seemed to be no worse quality to them than being overweight, and both of them, now in their 70s, still look really good, still exercise, eat relatively well, still able to be quite active with traveling, walking around all day at events, etc. Honestly, I resented this about them when I was young, and I still wonder what it would have been like to have had parents love me no matter my size. I definitely felt scorn from them when I gained some weight as a college freshman, and 30 years later, I remember that vividly. But, hey, as a parent now, I really want my kids to be slim also. Life is better for thin people. You're treated better. You're healthier. You feel better. You look better. Of course I want that for my children.

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Anonymous wrote:I think when you can have it all the desire to over eat diminishes. Also the food is very satisfying when you can just decide what sounds good in the moment and have that. You never look at prices on a menu! I also think they have full fat and richer foods just in very small portions which is satisfying (rather than cool whip it’s grass fed buttercream). Also, when you’re socializing you barely eat, too much to talk about. No one eats at fancy cocktail parties even though there’s passed heavy hors d’oeuvres.

Doesn't every mom tell their daughter to always eat a meal before going to a cocktail party?

The mothers that want to give their daughters complexes, sure. Normal mothers, no.

Decent mothers tell their daughters to eat before going to parties focused on alcohol with very little hearty food to eat.

I don't know if this is about being decent but I also would my boys this.

Anonymous wrote:You drink a cocktail daily? Just one? Even if just one, it’s Not good for women, PP

OMG this is ridiculous. Ppl should enjoy life.

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Anonymous wrote:I think when you can have it all the desire to over eat diminishes. Also the food is very satisfying when you can just decide what sounds good in the moment and have that. You never look at prices on a menu! I also think they have full fat and richer foods just in very small portions which is satisfying (rather than cool whip it’s grass fed buttercream). Also, when you’re socializing you barely eat, too much to talk about. No one eats at fancy cocktail parties even though there’s passed heavy hors d’oeuvres.

Doesn't every mom tell their daughter to always eat a meal before going to a cocktail party?

The mothers that want to give their daughters complexes, sure. Normal mothers, no.

Decent mothers tell their daughters to eat before going to parties focused on alcohol with very little hearty food to eat.

Anonymous wrote:I don't recall my mom ever giving me eating 'advice' except to eat vegetables.

I have always just been an intuitive eater. I am not an emotional eater. I eat when I am hungry and stop when I am full. When I eat like crap I feel bad, so I don't. Just like I don't drink much anymore.

This is funny. My mom’s eating advice was limited to (I) eat everything on your plate and (ii) at restaurants “eat what you paid for.” Ie don’t eat the big plate of noodles, eat the chicken that came on top.

I don't recall my mom ever giving me eating 'advice' except to eat vegetables.

I have always just been a intuitive eater. I am not an emotional eater. I eat when I am hungry and stop when I am full. When I eat like crap I feel bad, so I don't. Just like I don't drink much anymore.

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Anonymous wrote:Semaglutide. It removes the willpower component of staying thin.

but you can only get that if you're overweight or diabetic.

Anecdotally, lots of moms at my kids Chevy Chase preschool are on it (myself included). None of us were obese or diabetic when we started. Speaking of myself and two friends whose story I know, we started GLP-1 to lose the excess baby weight and are now skinny like we were pre pregnancy.

There are tons of ways to get it if you are willing to pay. One mom was technically overweight when she had it prescribed by her primary care Dr. She is on name brand Weoivy but pays 1k per month out of pocket for it.

I use a Telehealth for semaglutide compound and it costs about $200 a month. I was overweight but not obese when I started and I just lied about my weight on the online questionnaire.

I also know some people just buy research peptides from sites like Arctic or Skye Peptides for their 'lab rats' and compound the drugs themselves.

I’m on it, paying cash, and I lost a lot of weight and it’s wonderful but I’m definitely not skinny now. Just way less fat and healthier.

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Anonymous wrote:How skinny and how rich are we talking?

I have hhi over $2m (the majority of which is me). I’m size 2 or 4 depending on size. Very healthy small, but not the waifish cigarette smoking super skinny.

I exercise most days and eat pretty healthy but not super healthy. No breakfast, smallish lunch of maybe an egg wrap with fruit on the side, or yougurt fruit and granola. Dinner is whatever - some nights a whole pizza, and other times salad. Usually home made.

The women posting with all these half yogurts and half a plate of cottage cheese are scary. I don’t know anyone still operated this way.

Um do you see what you eat PP? You are just as disordered.

NP. I eat this way too, have all my life. I really don’t like eating in the morning so no breakfast. My parents couldn’t even force me when I was a kid. I eat something small for lunch because I have a sedentary desk job and will get tired if I eat anything big (and I don’t like salad). Today it was a clementine and a soft boiled egg. I eat whatever I want for dinner. I’m fortunate that sweets don’t tempt me, and I try not to snack between meals, but I do drink quite a bit.

I’m thin enough but nothing crazy (about 118 right now, I am 5’4”) and I assure you I’m not disordered. It’s just how some people eat.

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Anonymous wrote:I was raised by well off, smart people. My mom cooked healthy meals every day and I was in organized sports from a very early age. Because of family money I have a hobby job teaching yoga. Being raised fit and healthy makes it natural to stay fit and healthy, and retiring young meant that I could avoid the trap of sitting at a desk in my late 40s and 50s when the middle aged spread seems to take over

I, too, was raised by smart parents who worked hard and made themselves well off. My father was always slim and fit looking yet rarely formally exercised (he was a fanatic about walking everywhere - lived in nyc so did walk a lot) and my mother was always chubby, although she played regular tennis and raquetball and belonged to a gym, so presumably she was fit, too, although to look at my parents you'd have assume my father was the one who exercised more.

My sisters and I were thin as kids/teens, but all 3 of us never lost all of the "baby weight" after having kids, and now in our mid-50s and post menopausal the spread has only gotten worse. I eat healthy, mostly home cooked whole food meals, lean proteins, lots of veggies, little alcohol. I run 3x/week, do pilates 2x/week, and try to walk a lot. I'm still overweight.

To lose and keep off weight, I need to eat very little - probably akin to what a PP said she does, eat one meal per day of lean protein and veggies and then a light snack later. But I don't want to live that way - I like to have yogurt and fruit and toast at breakfast - a salad with lean protein at lunch - a reasonable dinner, often lean protein and veggies but sometimes pasta or beef - a few bites of dessert if we go out to dinner - etc. In my opinion that all shouldn't be unreasonable (and yes, I know it adds up, and I watch for that) but I m overweight by eating like this.

Have you counted calories?

Anonymous wrote:I was raised by well off, smart people. My mom cooked healthy meals every day and I was in organized sports from a very early age. Because of family money I have a hobby job teaching yoga. Being raised fit and healthy makes it natural to stay fit and healthy, and retiring young meant that I could avoid the trap of sitting at a desk in my late 40s and 50s when the middle aged spread seems to take over

I, too, was raised by smart parents who worked hard and made themselves well off. My father was always slim and fit looking yet rarely formally exercised (he was a fanatic about walking everywhere - lived in nyc so did walk a lot) and my mother was always chubby, although she played regular tennis and raquetball and belonged to a gym, so presumably she was fit, too, although to look at my parents you'd have assume my father was the one who exercised more.

My sisters and I were thin as kids/teens, but all 3 of us never lost all of the "baby weight" after having kids, and now in our mid-50s and post menopausal the spread has only gotten worse. I eat healthy, mostly home cooked whole food meals, lean proteins, lots of veggies, little alcohol. I run 3x/week, do pilates 2x/week, and try to walk a lot. I'm still overweight.

To lose and keep off weight, I need to eat very little - probably akin to what a PP said she does, eat one meal per day of lean protein and veggies and then a light snack later. But I don't want to live that way - I like to have yogurt and fruit and toast at breakfast - a salad with lean protein at lunch - a reasonable dinner, often lean protein and veggies but sometimes pasta or beef - a few bites of dessert if we go out to dinner - etc. In my opinion that all shouldn't be unreasonable (and yes, I know it adds up, and I watch for that) but I m overweight by eating like this.

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Anonymous wrote:Wouldn’t you like to know???

For me, weights/cardio (run, bike, swim, etc...) six days a week. Only eat one big meal (mainly vegetables, lean protein) around 2 pm. Small snack around 8.

Early 50s. Reality is that you just have to limit your intake. Most folks don’t have the discipline to maintain. I’ve been same weight (+|- 5 pounds) since early 20s.

It’s not easy and gets harder each year.

Also, I don’t consider myself “skinny”. I’m fit. Thin, but muscular.

How much muscle do you actually have?

You drink a cocktail daily? Just one? Even if just one, it’s Not good for women, PP

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Anonymous wrote:How skinny and how rich are we talking?

I have hhi over $2m (the majority of which is me). I’m size 2 or 4 depending on size. Very healthy small, but not the waifish cigarette smoking super skinny.

I exercise most days and eat pretty healthy but not super healthy. No breakfast, smallish lunch of maybe an egg wrap with fruit on the side, or yougurt fruit and granola. Dinner is whatever - some nights a whole pizza, and other times salad. Usually home made.

The women posting with all these half yogurts and half a plate of cottage cheese are scary. I don’t know anyone still operated this way.

You eat that way though! No breakfast and a tiny lunch is the same.

I was actually trying to suggest that I am not starving myself - I wasn't trying to make it sound like a light diet! Stuff I left off: daily cocktail with a small bowl of cheese straws, dessert most nights... periodic snacks, no aversion to Taco Bell once a week.... On Tuesday I was working super late and we were supposed to be eating tofu and broccoli, but my husband suggested instead I might just want to eat the Coconut Cream Pie that I made the night before, and I proceeded to eat half of it for dinner! But it was homemade lol. I weigh exactly what I should given what I eat, probably a little less.

Also, size 2-4 is small. I'm not talking about mall brands of vanity sizing but regular sized clothes.

So sometimes you eat almost nothing, and sometimes you eat a whole pizza for dinner, and/or 1/2 a pie?

I was raised by well off, smart people. My mom cooked healthy meals every day and I was in organized sports from a very early age. Because of family money I have a hobby job teaching yoga. Being raised fit and healthy makes it natural to stay fit and healthy, and retiring young meant that I could avoid the trap of sitting at a desk in my late 40s and 50s when the middle aged spread seems to take over

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Anonymous wrote:Skinny rich women in my experience either made the money or married into it. It’s part of their personality, genetics, or “job.” Those of us born into are much more likely to be overweight.

More likely than those not born into it, yes. But still those born into it are much more likely to be slim than the general population!! When I see a heavier woman in my social circle, rare, I normally assume generational wealth. However, I'm also generational wealth and I fight to stay slim and teach my kids to value fitness. That said, my sister is overweight. She also married generational money - he's super nerdy and slightly plump himself.

Do you see these as the same?