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Anonymous wrote:The top job opportunities at UVA are not close to the top job opportunities at CMU, MIT, Stanford, Berkeley, Cornell, etc. To argue otherwise is idiotic.

I don't think Cornell would be much better.

You are incorrect: https://www.cs.cornell.edu/undergrad/cscareers/placementreport

This is not impressive considering Cornell is an Ivy in New York. You're comparing Cornell to MIT and Stanford and it's not close to them. The avg CS grad salary at Emory is $98k vs. Cornells 105k. Emory is in the south and its program is ranked 71.

http://career.emory.edu/_includes/documents/Emory%20Employment%20Report%202018-2019.pdf

Agree that Cornell is not Stanford/MIT. But it is close and is comparable in terms of CS legacy, focus, research, size of department, quality of faculty and peer group.
Conversely, Emory is not even close to Cornell for CS - nobody would compare them. Emory does not have have a legacy of CS.

Don't understand the point of Emory being in the South - CS jobs/recruiting are mobile. Cornell is in rural NY, far away from large employment centers. NYC is 4 hours away. Yet despite its remote location, from the linked placement report, a large number go on the the west coast. Emory is in the middle of Atlanta.

The south has lower incomes across the board. It's not about employment centers. Emory is in the south yet the CS grads only make 7k less than Cornell grads, but somehow you're trying to argue that Cornell is vastly better than Emory and UVA. Cornell boosters are clearly delusional.

So you agree at $7K more Cornell is better. Good! I am not sure anyone is saying "vastly" better, and I do not have a definition of "vastly". What income difference would qualify as "vastly" better?

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Anonymous wrote:The top job opportunities at UVA are not close to the top job opportunities at CMU, MIT, Stanford, Berkeley, Cornell, etc. To argue otherwise is idiotic.

I don't think Cornell would be much better.

You are incorrect: https://www.cs.cornell.edu/undergrad/cscareers/placementreport

This is not impressive considering Cornell is an Ivy in New York. You're comparing Cornell to MIT and Stanford and it's not close to them. The avg CS grad salary at Emory is $98k vs. Cornells 105k. Emory is in the south and its program is ranked 71.

http://career.emory.edu/_includes/documents/Emory%20Employment%20Report%202018-2019.pdf

Agree that Cornell is not Stanford/MIT. But it is close and is comparable in terms of CS legacy, focus, research, size of department, quality of faculty and peer group.
Conversely, Emory is not even close to Cornell for CS - nobody would compare them. Emory does not have have a legacy of CS.

Don't understand the point of Emory being in the South - CS jobs/recruiting are mobile. Cornell is in rural NY, far away from large employment centers. NYC is 4 hours away. Yet despite its remote location, from the linked placement report, a large number go on the the west coast. Emory is in the middle of Atlanta.

The south has lower incomes across the board. It's not about employment centers. Emory is in the south yet the CS grads only make 7k less than Cornell grads, but somehow you're trying to argue that Cornell is vastly better than Emory and UVA. Cornell boosters are clearly delusional.

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Anonymous wrote:The top job opportunities at UVA are not close to the top job opportunities at CMU, MIT, Stanford, Berkeley, Cornell, etc. To argue otherwise is idiotic.

I don't think Cornell would be much better.

You are incorrect: https://www.cs.cornell.edu/undergrad/cscareers/placementreport

This is not impressive considering Cornell is an Ivy in New York. You're comparing Cornell to MIT and Stanford and it's not close to them. The avg CS grad salary at Emory is $98k vs. Cornells 105k. Emory is in the south and its program is ranked 71.

http://career.emory.edu/_includes/documents/Emory%20Employment%20Report%202018-2019.pdf

Agree that Cornell is not Stanford/MIT. But it is close and is comparable in terms of CS legacy, focus, research, size of department, quality of faculty and peer group.
Conversely, Emory is not even close to Cornell for CS - nobody would compare them. Emory does not have have a legacy of CS.

Don't understand the point of Emory being in the South - CS jobs/recruiting are mobile. Cornell is in rural NY, far away from large employment centers. NYC is 4 hours away. Yet despite its remote location, from the linked placement report, a large number go on the the west coast. Emory is in the middle of Atlanta.

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Anonymous wrote:It is amazing how people try to force top schools (broadly defined, lets say top 50) into artificial tiers to the effect of "Stanford is better than Cornell." Note that 1) at each school there is a distribution of student ability/intellect/work ethic, and these distributions overlap such that top students at all of these schools are top-notch and 2) the Dean of Engineering at Stanford holds a PhD from Cornell. https://engineering.stanford.edu/about/dean

I don't think top 50 are "top".

The top are the Ivies, Stanford, MIT and perhaps Duke and Notre Dame.

Then there are good but lesser known colleges like Hopkins, Chicago, Vanderbilt, Georgetown, Northwestern.

The rest of the top 50 are good but sorta regional privates and state flagships.

Anonymous wrote:It is amazing how people try to force top schools (broadly defined, lets say top 50) into artificial tiers to the effect of "Stanford is better than Cornell." Note that 1) at each school there is a distribution of student ability/intellect/work ethic, and these distributions overlap such that top students at all of these schools are top-notch and 2) the Dean of Engineering at Stanford holds a PhD from Cornell. https://engineering.stanford.edu/about/dean

Anonymous wrote:It is amazing how people try to force top schools (broadly defined, lets say top 50) into artificial tiers to the effect of "Stanford is better than Cornell." Note that 1) at each school there is a distribution of student ability/intellect/work ethic, and these distributions overlap such that top students at all of these schools are top-notch and 2) the Dean of Engineering at Stanford holds a PhD from Cornell. https://engineering.stanford.edu/about/dean

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Anonymous wrote:The top job opportunities at UVA are not close to the top job opportunities at CMU, MIT, Stanford, Berkeley, Cornell, etc. To argue otherwise is idiotic.

I don't think Cornell would be much better.

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Anonymous wrote:The top job opportunities at UVA are not close to the top job opportunities at CMU, MIT, Stanford, Berkeley, Cornell, etc. To argue otherwise is idiotic.

I don't think Cornell would be much better.

You are incorrect: https://www.cs.cornell.edu/undergrad/cscareers/placementreport

This is not impressive considering Cornell is an Ivy in New York. You're comparing Cornell to MIT and Stanford and it's not close to them. The avg CS grad salary at Emory is $98k vs. Cornells 105k. Emory is in the south and its program is ranked 71.

http://career.emory.edu/_includes/documents/Emory%20Employment%20Report%202018-2019.pdf

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Anonymous wrote:The top job opportunities at UVA are not close to the top job opportunities at CMU, MIT, Stanford, Berkeley, Cornell, etc. To argue otherwise is idiotic.

I don't think Cornell would be much better.

You are incorrect: https://www.cs.cornell.edu/undergrad/cscareers/placementreport

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Anonymous wrote:The top job opportunities at UVA are not close to the top job opportunities at CMU, MIT, Stanford, Berkeley, Cornell, etc. To argue otherwise is idiotic.

I don't think Cornell would be much better.

You are incorrect: https://www.cs.cornell.edu/undergrad/cscareers/placementreport

You have to ignore the Cornell basher if you want them to stop.

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Anonymous wrote:The top job opportunities at UVA are not close to the top job opportunities at CMU, MIT, Stanford, Berkeley, Cornell, etc. To argue otherwise is idiotic.

I don't think Cornell would be much better.

You are incorrect: https://www.cs.cornell.edu/undergrad/cscareers/placementreport

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Anonymous wrote:The top job opportunities at UVA are not close to the top job opportunities at CMU, MIT, Stanford, Berkeley, Cornell, etc. To argue otherwise is idiotic.

I don't think Cornell would be much better.

Anonymous wrote:The top job opportunities at UVA are not close to the top job opportunities at CMU, MIT, Stanford, Berkeley, Cornell, etc. To argue otherwise is idiotic.