Anonymous wrote:Can someone link the audio?

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Anonymous wrote:He asked 3 questions to a presenter. This issue was presenting one account of anecdotal evidence as scientific fact. You learn in elementary science fair to have more than one example.

Doctors must know how to read scientific journals and trials to parse out fact from ‘placebo’.

If asking 3 valid questions about what is supposed to be a well funded research project gets the wheels spinning to get a student kicked out of school by deans and professors, there is a much greater problem here.

If this goes against the ‘values’ of a school, was that made clear before starting the school. Was ‘do not question’ a value they stated that could lead to expulsion?

The professors explained that they were using anecdotes to illustrate not as scientific proof.

He asked his 2nd question and the presenter said it would be his last question. 2 is reasonable in this situation, one and follow up.

After she answered his 2nd question he insisted on another follow up. Another professor stepped in to answer the 3rd question and noted he seemed frustrated and moved on to another person’s question.

So his question(s) were not his issue, his issue was his unprofessionalism.

Also, if you listen to the 2nd audio with the dean he sounds unstable. He tries very hard in both situations to keep his voice calm but his breathing and tone are agitated.

His problem is that he lacks the ability to control his emotions when somebody disagrees with him.

When offered counseling which can help with this, he refused.

The second audio is not just a meeting with the dean, it’s with an entire panel of people and it’s his expulsion hearing. He is one young person in a room of older people that are deciding his future.

It’s not easy for most people to control their emotions when they are being railroaded and their future is at stake, especially in your early 20s when you haven’t had the experience to handle such situations.

I don’t know why everyone here thinks a med student is supposed to be a perfect person, they’re still young, they have no real job experience, they’re lives to that point have been study in high school to get into college, study in college to get into med school.

Anonymous wrote:Can someone link the audio?

Anonymous wrote:PP here, I am listening to the second audio as well.

The student may be technically correct and may prevail in his suit.

But the guy clearly has massive issues. I would not want him for my doctor, would you?

Also I am thinking about VA Tech. Can you imagine if this student did go violent and the school had done nothing in response to repeated hostile interactions with students and faculty and guests?

Settlement money spent is worth it.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He asked 3 questions to a presenter. This issue was presenting one account of anecdotal evidence as scientific fact. You learn in elementary science fair to have more than one example.

Doctors must know how to read scientific journals and trials to parse out fact from ‘placebo’.

If asking 3 valid questions about what is supposed to be a well funded research project gets the wheels spinning to get a student kicked out of school by deans and professors, there is a much greater problem here.

If this goes against the ‘values’ of a school, was that made clear before starting the school. Was ‘do not question’ a value they stated that could lead to expulsion?

The professors explained that they were using anecdotes to illustrate not as scientific proof.

He asked his 2nd question and the presenter said it would be his last question. 2 is reasonable in this situation, one and follow up.

After she answered his 2nd question he insisted on another follow up. Another professor stepped in to answer the 3rd question and noted he seemed frustrated and moved on to another person’s question.

So his question(s) were not his issue, his issue was his unprofessionalism.

Also, if you listen to the 2nd audio with the dean he sounds unstable. He tries very hard in both situations to keep his voice calm but his breathing and tone are agitated.

His problem is that he lacks the ability to control his emotions when somebody disagrees with him.

When offered counseling which can help with this, he refused.

The second audio is not just a meeting with the dean, it’s with an entire panel of people and it’s his expulsion hearing. He is one young person in a room of older people that are deciding his future.

It’s not easy for most people to control their emotions when they are being railroaded and their future is at stake, especially in your early 20s when you haven’t had the experience to handle such situations.

I don’t know why everyone here thinks a med student is supposed to be a perfect person, they’re still young, they have no real job experience, they’re lives to that point have been study in high school to get into college, study in college to get into med school.

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Anonymous wrote:He asked 3 questions to a presenter. This issue was presenting one account of anecdotal evidence as scientific fact. You learn in elementary science fair to have more than one example.

Doctors must know how to read scientific journals and trials to parse out fact from ‘placebo’.

If asking 3 valid questions about what is supposed to be a well funded research project gets the wheels spinning to get a student kicked out of school by deans and professors, there is a much greater problem here.

If this goes against the ‘values’ of a school, was that made clear before starting the school. Was ‘do not question’ a value they stated that could lead to expulsion?

The professors explained that they were using anecdotes to illustrate not as scientific proof.

He asked his 2nd question and the presenter said it would be his last question. 2 is reasonable in this situation, one and follow up.

After she answered his 2nd question he insisted on another follow up. Another professor stepped in to answer the 3rd question and noted he seemed frustrated and moved on to another person’s question.

So his question(s) were not his issue, his issue was his unprofessionalism.

Also, if you listen to the 2nd audio with the dean he sounds unstable. He tries very hard in both situations to keep his voice calm but his breathing and tone are agitated.

His problem is that he lacks the ability to control his emotions when somebody disagrees with him.

When offered counseling which can help with this, he refused.

Anonymous wrote:"Microaggressions" are unknowable and unidentifiable except to that individual and highly dependent on the situation and perhaps even mood. Essentially each individual has their own unique set of laws that govern themselves as a sovereign entity.

They're completely ridiculous.

Anonymous wrote:Another take

https://whitehotharlots.tumblr.com/post/647740298162831360/a-movement-that-cannot-be-criticized-cannot?fbclid=IwAR3_k1UpF1u1Ov3PG61173ri2Ps1tp8NA5uAKwkNPfIzi2OxNXIY4f3uZx4

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He asked 3 questions to a presenter. This issue was presenting one account of anecdotal evidence as scientific fact. You learn in elementary science fair to have more than one example.

Doctors must know how to read scientific journals and trials to parse out fact from ‘placebo’.

If asking 3 valid questions about what is supposed to be a well funded research project gets the wheels spinning to get a student kicked out of school by deans and professors, there is a much greater problem here.

If this goes against the ‘values’ of a school, was that made clear before starting the school. Was ‘do not question’ a value they stated that could lead to expulsion?

The professors explained that they were using anecdotes to illustrate not as scientific proof.

He asked his 2nd question and the presenter said it would be his last question. 2 is reasonable in this situation, one and follow up.

After she answered his 2nd question he insisted on another follow up. Another professor stepped in to answer the 3rd question and noted he seemed frustrated and moved on to another person’s question.

So his question(s) were not his issue, his issue was his unprofessionalism.

Also, if you listen to the 2nd audio with the dean he sounds unstable. He tries very hard in both situations to keep his voice calm but his breathing and tone are agitated.

His problem is that he lacks the ability to control his emotions when somebody disagrees with him.

When offered counseling which can help with this, he refused.

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Anonymous wrote:Not sure if he’ll win or lose, but boy is he a jerk - minute 28.45 https://m.soundcloud.com/user-381804527/microagressions-presented-by-amwa

Well, first amendment applies to jerks too, not just exemplary citizens.

He is free to stand on the corner and rant about microaggression. But organizations also have a right to hold you to account for your speech if it is antithetical to its values.

Exactly. Especially a medical institution that must ensure all its patients are treated with respect and dignity regardless of their racial background. I work in healthcare and I wish more doctors received training on microaggressions. Lots of implicit bias among healthcare workers.

I mean, I'm not sure what this final comment means. The medical field is still considered a ticket to a UMC lifestyle, especially among immigrants. Lots of diversity and increasing.

Anonymous wrote:He asked 3 questions to a presenter. This issue was presenting one account of anecdotal evidence as scientific fact. You learn in elementary science fair to have more than one example.

Doctors must know how to read scientific journals and trials to parse out fact from ‘placebo’.

If asking 3 valid questions about what is supposed to be a well funded research project gets the wheels spinning to get a student kicked out of school by deans and professors, there is a much greater problem here.

If this goes against the ‘values’ of a school, was that made clear before starting the school. Was ‘do not question’ a value they stated that could lead to expulsion?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not sure if he’ll win or lose, but boy is he a jerk - minute 28.45 https://m.soundcloud.com/user-381804527/microagressions-presented-by-amwa

Well, first amendment applies to jerks too, not just exemplary citizens.

He is free to stand on the corner and rant about microaggression. But organizations also have a right to hold you to account for your speech if it is antithetical to its values.

Exactly. Especially a medical institution that must ensure all its patients are treated with respect and dignity regardless of their racial background. I work in healthcare and I wish more doctors received training on microaggressions. Lots of implicit bias among healthcare workers.