Anonymous wrote:PP: This is an interesting analysis. You are correct because some of Elrich’s biggest supporters live on that street in Chevy Chase. The name escapes me but it’s the uber wealthy. Why are older voters not bothered by Elrich? Is it because most are retired and don’t have to endure horrible commutes to VA for work? Is it because the higher property taxes don’t bother them since they have residency in FL? Is it because the issues that plague MCPS no longer bother them (yes I’m aware the CE has no jurisdiction over education but parents that moved to MoCo for schools are seeing red right now).

I live in CC where it’s mainly this “old money” - govt workers, or associated lawyers with their kids out of MCPS. Comfortably living at home during this time telecommuting or early retirement. They clamor for the strict policies to make life safer while food delivered. They aren’t business owners so they don’t worry about that or the workers. They don’t worry about the schools bc their kids are out - they want them closed. It keeps them safer. They worry about the purple line in their backyard and fight that. But overall it’s a calm lovely life In the neighborhood. Some do travel to Florida or outer banks and say they stay safe in a bubble And the dirty little secret - when the pandemic hit, many of us paid the workers who supported us - cleaners who didn’t come to clean, etc. but they stopped paying.

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Anonymous wrote:Pretty clear that the pro Blair group here is that "omg equity I hate it" crowd

I don't hate "equity", but there is a point where focusing on it too much hinders the community rather than help it. Covid vaccine rollout in MoCo is one such example.

Sure, because too much justice is definitely a big problem. Absolutely. What the world needs now is more stuff for rich, white people.

High vaccination rates benefit everyone, not just the wealthy. A slow rollout is bad for everyone, including the poor.

MoCo is not slow because of equity efforts, stop repeating these racist lies. MoCo is "slow" because it has an older population, so it takes longer to get through the 65+ group, especially if the governor doesn't provide doses based on the number of elderly people.

it also discriminates against poorer white people who live in certain zip codes. And yes the equity framework does mean it takes longer to vaccinate people because that target group is more hesitant to get a vaccine and/or it's harder for them to get to a vax site. Sure, that's a problem, and it needs to be addressed. But MoCo is only focused on that, and everyone else comes second.

That slows down getting the entire county vaccinated quickly.

This is not happening, you are making it up, and that's DISGUSTING. The health department takes a week to get through the doses they get each week. They don't have a backlog of doses.

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Anonymous wrote:Pretty clear that the pro Blair group here is that "omg equity I hate it" crowd

I don't hate "equity", but there is a point where focusing on it too much hinders the community rather than help it. Covid vaccine rollout in MoCo is one such example.

Sure, because too much justice is definitely a big problem. Absolutely. What the world needs now is more stuff for rich, white people.

High vaccination rates benefit everyone, not just the wealthy. A slow rollout is bad for everyone, including the poor.

MoCo is not slow because of equity efforts, stop repeating these racist lies. MoCo is "slow" because it has an older population, so it takes longer to get through the 65+ group, especially if the governor doesn't provide doses based on the number of elderly people.

it also discriminates against poorer white people who live in certain zip codes. And yes the equity framework does mean it takes longer to vaccinate people because that target group is more hesitant to get a vaccine and/or it's harder for them to get to a vax site. Sure, that's a problem, and it needs to be addressed. But MoCo is only focused on that, and everyone else comes second.

That slows down getting the entire county vaccinated quickly.

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Anonymous wrote:Pretty clear that the pro Blair group here is that "omg equity I hate it" crowd

David Blair is a bonafide Democrat. Please check out his platform. He believes in equity: https://www.blairformontgomery.com/

Blair on justice and equity in policing, per WaPo:

Blair said he does not see the need for dramatic changes to the county’s police department.

“Are there areas for improvement? Absolutely. But will it be the main focus of my campaign? No,” he said. “Here in Montgomery County, we’ve done a great job . . . We’re an example for the nation on how to police.”

The thing is, he’s not entirely wrong. Of course there is room for improvement. But relatively speaking, policing in MoCo is not the lightening rod issue it is elsewhere. My hometown is seemingly in the news about police misconduct every other day.

You haven't heard the stories I've heard about how police treat POC here. And yeah, that statement tells me all I need to know about David Blair. No thank you.

whereas I agree with Blair. Would you rather defund the police? Who is going to protect POC from thieves and murderers, who target POC at a disproportionate rate?

Anonymous wrote:PP: This is an interesting analysis. You are correct because some of Elrich’s biggest supporters live on that street in Chevy Chase. The name escapes me but it’s the uber wealthy. Why are older voters not bothered by Elrich? Is it because most are retired and don’t have to endure horrible commutes to VA for work? Is it because the higher property taxes don’t bother them since they have residency in FL? Is it because the issues that plague MCPS no longer bother them (yes I’m aware the CE has no jurisdiction over education but parents that moved to MoCo for schools are seeing red right now).

Elrich caters to old people and low income people, and neither groups are the target audience for high paying jobs. PP had it right.

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Anonymous wrote:Pretty clear that the pro Blair group here is that "omg equity I hate it" crowd

David Blair is a bonafide Democrat. Please check out his platform. He believes in equity: https://www.blairformontgomery.com/

Blair on justice and equity in policing, per WaPo:

Blair said he does not see the need for dramatic changes to the county’s police department.

“Are there areas for improvement? Absolutely. But will it be the main focus of my campaign? No,” he said. “Here in Montgomery County, we’ve done a great job . . . We’re an example for the nation on how to police.”

The thing is, he’s not entirely wrong. Of course there is room for improvement. But relatively speaking, policing in MoCo is not the lightening rod issue it is elsewhere. My hometown is seemingly in the news about police misconduct every other day.

You haven't heard the stories I've heard about how police treat POC here. And yeah, that statement tells me all I need to know about David Blair. No thank you.

At least Blair is honest. Elrich hasnt done anything either, you’ll need to support Jawamdo if you want actual actions rather than empty talk.

Agree that Jawando has done more on police but I don't agree with the bolded above. Unlikely Jawando is running. On police I would go with Elrich over Rice who seems very much anti-reform, but overall I would vote for Rice because Elrich is a bad manager. Rice knows the issues, he's committed to equity in education and he has private sector experience that I think would be great for economic development efforts. Doubt he'll win but he's got my vote.

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Anonymous wrote:Pretty clear that the pro Blair group here is that "omg equity I hate it" crowd

David Blair is a bonafide Democrat. Please check out his platform. He believes in equity: https://www.blairformontgomery.com/

Blair on justice and equity in policing, per WaPo:

Blair said he does not see the need for dramatic changes to the county’s police department.

“Are there areas for improvement? Absolutely. But will it be the main focus of my campaign? No,” he said. “Here in Montgomery County, we’ve done a great job . . . We’re an example for the nation on how to police.”

The thing is, he’s not entirely wrong. Of course there is room for improvement. But relatively speaking, policing in MoCo is not the lightening rod issue it is elsewhere. My hometown is seemingly in the news about police misconduct every other day.

You haven't heard the stories I've heard about how police treat POC here. And yeah, that statement tells me all I need to know about David Blair. No thank you.

At least Blair is honest. Elrich hasnt done anything either, you’ll need to support Jawamdo if you want actual actions rather than empty talk.

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Anonymous wrote:Pretty clear that the pro Blair group here is that "omg equity I hate it" crowd

David Blair is a bonafide Democrat. Please check out his platform. He believes in equity: https://www.blairformontgomery.com/

Blair on justice and equity in policing, per WaPo:

Blair said he does not see the need for dramatic changes to the county’s police department.

“Are there areas for improvement? Absolutely. But will it be the main focus of my campaign? No,” he said. “Here in Montgomery County, we’ve done a great job . . . We’re an example for the nation on how to police.”

The thing is, he’s not entirely wrong. Of course there is room for improvement. But relatively speaking, policing in MoCo is not the lightening rod issue it is elsewhere. My hometown is seemingly in the news about police misconduct every other day.

You haven't heard the stories I've heard about how police treat POC here. And yeah, that statement tells me all I need to know about David Blair. No thank you.

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Anonymous wrote:Pretty clear that the pro Blair group here is that "omg equity I hate it" crowd

I don't hate "equity", but there is a point where focusing on it too much hinders the community rather than help it. Covid vaccine rollout in MoCo is one such example.

Sure, because too much justice is definitely a big problem. Absolutely. What the world needs now is more stuff for rich, white people.

High vaccination rates benefit everyone, not just the wealthy. A slow rollout is bad for everyone, including the poor.

MoCo is not slow because of equity efforts, stop repeating these racist lies. MoCo is "slow" because it has an older population, so it takes longer to get through the 65+ group, especially if the governor doesn't provide doses based on the number of elderly people.

Anonymous wrote:PP: This is an interesting analysis. You are correct because some of Elrich’s biggest supporters live on that street in Chevy Chase. The name escapes me but it’s the uber wealthy. Why are older voters not bothered by Elrich? Is it because most are retired and don’t have to endure horrible commutes to VA for work? Is it because the higher property taxes don’t bother them since they have residency in FL? Is it because the issues that plague MCPS no longer bother them (yes I’m aware the CE has no jurisdiction over education but parents that moved to MoCo for schools are seeing red right now).

I can't speak for Chevy Chase, I'm talking about Takoma Park and Silver Spring. The uber wealthy seem to hate Elrich because of high taxes. But the moderately wealthy based on property values (that's what i meant by old money - not the Country Club type, but the people with federal jobs who bought property in the 80s) in Takoma Park. Them plus lower income service workers.
The new money, UMC private sector, business class hates Elrich and yes they are probably more affected to commutes to VA and regulations in Moco.

PP: This is an interesting analysis. You are correct because some of Elrich’s biggest supporters live on that street in Chevy Chase. The name escapes me but it’s the uber wealthy. Why are older voters not bothered by Elrich? Is it because most are retired and don’t have to endure horrible commutes to VA for work? Is it because the higher property taxes don’t bother them since they have residency in FL? Is it because the issues that plague MCPS no longer bother them (yes I’m aware the CE has no jurisdiction over education but parents that moved to MoCo for schools are seeing red right now).

I live among the much maligned Takoma Park/Silver Spring "cabal" and here's what I've noticed, about supporters of Blair and supporters of Elrich, at least from last time around:


Elrich supporters are both "old money" and truly low-income people. By "old money" I don't mean in the usual sense, but in that they are decently well-off federal employees or similar careers, and such who have been around for a long time, bought property in the 80s and gained wealth through their property values. A lot of them are NIMBYs, and lot of them are old school leftists from the 60s who never abandoned this idealism and still feel like "sticking it to the man," whether that's what they're actually doing or not. The others are younger, people of color, low-income renters who want and/or benefit from rent control, from the less wealthy parts of TP (like Ward 6 and 4) and Silver Spring. Union employees, service workers and such.

Blair supporters tend to be "new money" of all age groups. Older wealthy people, successful UMC Gen Xers (the DCUM cohort) who made it in private sector careers, and younger well-off urban professionals who adhere to the more technocratic YIMBY take on housing - though these people like Hans Riemer as well. The "new money" cohort is anti-Elrich more than anything.

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Anonymous wrote:Pretty clear that the pro Blair group here is that "omg equity I hate it" crowd

David Blair is a bonafide Democrat. Please check out his platform. He believes in equity: https://www.blairformontgomery.com/

Blair on justice and equity in policing, per WaPo:

Blair said he does not see the need for dramatic changes to the county’s police department.

“Are there areas for improvement? Absolutely. But will it be the main focus of my campaign? No,” he said. “Here in Montgomery County, we’ve done a great job . . . We’re an example for the nation on how to police.”

The thing is, he’s not entirely wrong. Of course there is room for improvement. But relatively speaking, policing in MoCo is not the lightening rod issue it is elsewhere. My hometown is seemingly in the news about police misconduct every other day.

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Anonymous wrote:Pretty clear that the pro Blair group here is that "omg equity I hate it" crowd

I don't hate "equity", but there is a point where focusing on it too much hinders the community rather than help it. Covid vaccine rollout in MoCo is one such example.

Sure, because too much justice is definitely a big problem. Absolutely. What the world needs now is more stuff for rich, white people.

High vaccination rates benefit everyone, not just the wealthy. A slow rollout is bad for everyone, including the poor.

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Anonymous wrote:Pretty clear that the pro Blair group here is that "omg equity I hate it" crowd

David Blair is a bonafide Democrat. Please check out his platform. He believes in equity: https://www.blairformontgomery.com/

Blair on justice and equity in policing, per WaPo:

Blair said he does not see the need for dramatic changes to the county’s police department.

“Are there areas for improvement? Absolutely. But will it be the main focus of my campaign? No,” he said. “Here in Montgomery County, we’ve done a great job . . . We’re an example for the nation on how to police.”