Anonymous
Post 03/20/2021 12:06     Subject: Why won't people address the massage shootings as the mental health issue rather than racism?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:The recent wave of crimes against Asians is the worst in the last thirty years as far as I remembered. Yet very few of these crimes are classified as hate crimes. I have yet to see an announcement from FBI that they are investing the massage shooting to find out if this is a hate crime.


Aren’t there certain markers of hate crimes that need to be in evidence to classify? Are all crimes hate crimes?

In order to control public outrage, isn’t it better to say there is no evidence of a hate crime if it’s the truth? It doesn’t mean they won’t bring evidence to light if it’s found.

You mean, it’s better for white audiences to hear that a white man doesn’t seem to have committed a racially motivated crime? Because that is not what Asian Americans and women want to hear.


Not saying that. But why do groups *want* to hear their group is a target of something if the evidence isn’t there (yet)? I can’t understand that.


You probably live under a rock.
Anonymous
Post 03/20/2021 12:04     Subject: Why won't people address the massage shootings as the mental health issue rather than racism?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The recent wave of crimes against Asians is the worst in the last thirty years as far as I remembered. Yet very few of these crimes are classified as hate crimes. I have yet to see an announcement from FBI that they are investing the massage shooting to find out if this is a hate crime.


Aren’t there certain markers of hate crimes that need to be in evidence to classify? Are all crimes hate crimes?

In order to control public outrage, isn’t it better to say there is no evidence of a hate crime if it’s the truth? It doesn’t mean they won’t bring evidence to light if it’s found.

You mean, it’s better for white audiences to hear that a white man doesn’t seem to have committed a racially motivated crime? Because that is not what Asian Americans and women want to hear.


Not saying that. But why do groups *want* to hear their group is a target of something if the evidence isn’t there (yet)? I can’t understand that.


Because the recent wave of attacks on Asians are um-unprecedented, yet very of them are labeled as hate crimes.
Anonymous
Post 03/20/2021 11:41     Subject: Why won't people address the massage shootings as the mental health issue rather than racism?

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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:6 out 8 victims were asian = racism

But when an Asian VA tech shooter kills 24-25 white people out of a total of 32 victims it isn't racism?


Can't have it both ways..


Dumb. He went to Asian spas and killed Asian women who worked there. Two white customers were also killed. He didn’t shoot whatever random people he encountered. He targeted Asian women spa workers.


But you just said 25% were not Asian. There were actually 3 non-Asians but one survived. So 33%.


I am pretty sure Hitler also did a number on non-Jews. So, that’s a proof he wasn’t anti-Semite, that all he needed was a shrink?


+1 Hitler killed Roma ("gypsy"), the disabled, political activists, gays and lesbians, etc. For some people that might be proof that Hitler wasn't anti-Semitic, you know, since he killed so many people who weren't Jewish.
(But some trolls are both stupid and pathetic, so probably best to just not engage. They are not capable of understanding, and they do not want to understand because it hurts their feelings.)


And Hitler loved Jews - Jewish women that is. Maybe HS and college History 101 just didn’t provide the humane side of this monster.
Anonymous
Post 03/20/2021 11:31     Subject: Why won't people address the massage shootings as the mental health issue rather than racism?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:6 out 8 victims were asian = racism

But when an Asian VA tech shooter kills 24-25 white people out of a total of 32 victims it isn't racism?


Can't have it both ways..


Dumb. He went to Asian spas and killed Asian women who worked there. Two white customers were also killed. He didn’t shoot whatever random people he encountered. He targeted Asian women spa workers.


But you just said 25% were not Asian. There were actually 3 non-Asians but one survived. So 33%.


I am pretty sure Hitler also did a number on non-Jews. So, that’s a proof he wasn’t anti-Semite, that all he needed was a shrink?


+1 Hitler killed Roma ("gypsy"), the disabled, political activists, gays and lesbians, etc. For some people that might be proof that Hitler wasn't anti-Semitic, you know, since he killed so many people who weren't Jewish.
(But some trolls are both stupid and pathetic, so probably best to just not engage. They are not capable of understanding, and they do not want to understand because it hurts their feelings.)
Anonymous
Post 03/20/2021 11:26     Subject: Why won't people address the massage shootings as the mental health issue rather than racism?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:6 out 8 victims were asian = racism

But when an Asian VA tech shooter kills 24-25 white people out of a total of 32 victims it isn't racism?


Can't have it both ways..


Dumb. He went to Asian spas and killed Asian women who worked there. Two white customers were also killed. He didn’t shoot whatever random people he encountered. He targeted Asian women spa workers.


But you just said 25% were not Asian. There were actually 3 non-Asians but one survived. So 33%.


I am pretty sure Hitler also did a number on non-Jews. So, that’s a proof he wasn’t anti-Semite, that all he needed was a shrink?
Anonymous
Post 03/20/2021 11:03     Subject: Why won't people address the massage shootings as the mental health issue rather than racism?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:6 out 8 victims were asian = racism

But when an Asian VA tech shooter kills 24-25 white people out of a total of 32 victims it isn't racism?


Can't have it both ways..


Dumb. He went to Asian spas and killed Asian women who worked there. Two white customers were also killed. He didn’t shoot whatever random people he encountered. He targeted Asian women spa workers.


But you just said 25% were not Asian. There were actually 3 non-Asians but one survived. So 33%.

Grasping at straws here


Actually you are. I’m comparing percentages between these two incidents. What evidence are you using?
Anonymous
Post 03/20/2021 11:02     Subject: Why won't people address the massage shootings as the mental health issue rather than racism?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The recent wave of crimes against Asians is the worst in the last thirty years as far as I remembered. Yet very few of these crimes are classified as hate crimes. I have yet to see an announcement from FBI that they are investing the massage shooting to find out if this is a hate crime.


Aren’t there certain markers of hate crimes that need to be in evidence to classify? Are all crimes hate crimes?

In order to control public outrage, isn’t it better to say there is no evidence of a hate crime if it’s the truth? It doesn’t mean they won’t bring evidence to light if it’s found.

You mean, it’s better for white audiences to hear that a white man doesn’t seem to have committed a racially motivated crime? Because that is not what Asian Americans and women want to hear.


Not saying that. But why do groups *want* to hear their group is a target of something if the evidence isn’t there (yet)? I can’t understand that.
Anonymous
Post 03/20/2021 11:01     Subject: Why won't people address the massage shootings as the mental health issue rather than racism?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:6 out 8 victims were asian = racism

But when an Asian VA tech shooter kills 24-25 white people out of a total of 32 victims it isn't racism?


Can't have it both ways..


Dumb. He went to Asian spas and killed Asian women who worked there. Two white customers were also killed. He didn’t shoot whatever random people he encountered. He targeted Asian women spa workers.


But you just said 25% were not Asian. There were actually 3 non-Asians but one survived. So 33%.

Grasping at straws here
Anonymous
Post 03/20/2021 10:59     Subject: Re:Why won't people address the massage shootings as the mental health issue rather than racism?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He most likely was a racist and mentally ill but frankly as an Asian American I find it deeply disturbing that the media is using this as an example to create division between white and asian people by primarily attributing the rise on asian hate crimes to white supremacy. The reality is Asian people have been attacked by both white and black people ..but no one publicly wants to address or even mention black on asian crime. How are we going to resolve this if we ignore reality.

Because the increased violence against Asian people was birthed by the last guy, a White guy and a white supremacist. Yes, Black people are committing some of the violence too, but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t come from a person steeped in white supremacist culture.


Mmhmm. it’s true they were calling recent Black on Asian crimes white supremacy in the media and SJW rallies. When all those Asian-owned businesses were destroyed in the Rodney King riots the vandals were steeped in white supremacy?



The riot was caused by the white jury acquitting the LA white cops caught beating a black guy on camera.


So even though most of the victims were Asian it wasn’t racially motivated.
Anonymous
Post 03/20/2021 10:59     Subject: Why won't people address the massage shootings as the mental health issue rather than racism?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The recent wave of crimes against Asians is the worst in the last thirty years as far as I remembered. Yet very few of these crimes are classified as hate crimes. I have yet to see an announcement from FBI that they are investing the massage shooting to find out if this is a hate crime.


Aren’t there certain markers of hate crimes that need to be in evidence to classify? Are all crimes hate crimes?

In order to control public outrage, isn’t it better to say there is no evidence of a hate crime if it’s the truth? It doesn’t mean they won’t bring evidence to light if it’s found.

You mean, it’s better for white audiences to hear that a white man doesn’t seem to have committed a racially motivated crime? Because that is not what Asian Americans and women want to hear.
Anonymous
Post 03/20/2021 10:56     Subject: Why won't people address the massage shootings as the mental health issue rather than racism?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:6 out 8 victims were asian = racism

But when an Asian VA tech shooter kills 24-25 white people out of a total of 32 victims it isn't racism?


Can't have it both ways..


Dumb. He went to Asian spas and killed Asian women who worked there. Two white customers were also killed. He didn’t shoot whatever random people he encountered. He targeted Asian women spa workers.


But you just said 25% were not Asian. There were actually 3 non-Asians but one survived. So 33%.
Anonymous
Post 03/20/2021 10:53     Subject: Why won't people address the massage shootings as the mental health issue rather than racism?

Anonymous wrote:6 out 8 victims were asian = racism

But when an Asian VA tech shooter kills 24-25 white people out of a total of 32 victims it isn't racism?


Can't have it both ways..


Dumb. He went to Asian spas and killed Asian women who worked there. Two white customers were also killed. He didn’t shoot whatever random people he encountered. He targeted Asian women spa workers.
Anonymous
Post 03/20/2021 10:52     Subject: Why won't people address the massage shootings as the mental health issue rather than racism?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The recent wave of crimes against Asians is the worst in the last thirty years as far as I remembered. Yet very few of these crimes are classified as hate crimes. I have yet to see an announcement from FBI that they are investing the massage shooting to find out if this is a hate crime.

Sigh.
“And while the motive remains still under investigation at the moment, it does not appear that the motive was racially motivated. But I really would defer to the state and local investigation on that for now.”
https://www.npr.org/2021/03/18/978193998/were-going-to-keep-digging-fbi-director-wray-says-of-capitol-siege


FBI is too busy with catching the Chinese agents to handle the wave of crimes against Asians. Got it.
Anonymous
Post 03/20/2021 10:51     Subject: Re:Why won't people address the massage shootings as the mental health issue rather than racism?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He most likely was a racist and mentally ill but frankly as an Asian American I find it deeply disturbing that the media is using this as an example to create division between white and asian people by primarily attributing the rise on asian hate crimes to white supremacy. The reality is Asian people have been attacked by both white and black people ..but no one publicly wants to address or even mention black on asian crime. How are we going to resolve this if we ignore reality.


So you are okay with the division as long as the division involves both black and white people united against Asians? Just want to be clear.


No I thought I made this clear enough. Both blacks and whites are committing asian hate crimes so to spin this up as solely a white supremacist issue is not going to resolve the problem. Let's make sure we address reality please. It shouldn't be about pitting groups against each other and pretending like it's just one group doing these heinous crimes. How about we all just agree as humans to stop being racist because the reality is all people regardless of skin color can be racist a-holes.


+1.

We’ve had 4 years of lies. Let’s get back to facts now.
Anonymous
Post 03/20/2021 10:49     Subject: Re:Why won't people address the massage shootings as the mental health issue rather than racism?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He most likely was a racist and mentally ill but frankly as an Asian American I find it deeply disturbing that the media is using this as an example to create division between white and asian people by primarily attributing the rise on asian hate crimes to white supremacy. The reality is Asian people have been attacked by both white and black people ..but no one publicly wants to address or even mention black on asian crime. How are we going to resolve this if we ignore reality.

Because the increased violence against Asian people was birthed by the last guy, a White guy and a white supremacist. Yes, Black people are committing some of the violence too, but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t come from a person steeped in white supremacist culture.


Mmhmm. it’s true they were calling recent Black on Asian crimes white supremacy in the media and SJW rallies. When all those Asian-owned businesses were destroyed in the Rodney King riots the vandals were steeped in white supremacy?



The riot was caused by the white jury acquitting the LA white cops caught beating a black guy on camera.