Anonymous
02/25/2021 22:55
Subject: Re:Teachers are taking a leave of absence
Anonymous wrote:If you're taking a leave of absence, then you're not an active teacher. Those individuals can get in line with their same aged cohort. They shouldn't jump in front of high risk seniors.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The only teachers I know that are taking a LOA are doing it for childcare reasons. Also it's unpaid. They've decided that childcare would be too expensive vs their salary so they are staying home with their kids. It have nothing to do with vaccines.
Did they get a vaccine before giving notice?
We need teachers vaccinated. We need virtual teachers vaccinated. We need hybrid teachers vaccinated. We need teachers returning at a later date vaccinated.
This times a million. I've spent countless hours hoping to get lucky securing a vaccine as someone in 1b. Teachers should be vaccinated, bit not the ones staying home to teach virtually or taking a leave of absence.
Plus teacher kids get to go in person 4 days. What's this childcare reason they are talking about.
Anonymous
02/25/2021 08:40
Subject: Teachers are taking a leave of absence
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Again, I'm pretty sure anyone taking LOA right now is in violation of contract. Wasn't the LOA deadline back in October sometime?
LOL at you. Like the need for a LOA only occurs to a rigid timeline!!! Not. In my organization people put in LOAs when they need them. Of course the same should hold true for teachers.
Family crises or the need to take time away from work to deal with urgent issues isn't normally scheduled. That's why emergencies are called...wait for it...emergencies. And that's why the LOA process exists.
If a teacher needs to put in for a LOA then he or she should. It is a normal part of business and a school system is no different than any other business in that regard.
Sorry no. Outside of FMLA and ADA, teachers can’t just take LOA whenever they want and keep their job for when they return. That’s not how it works in the public school system. You sound like you are not a teacher.
??? What do you think FMLA and ADA are? You're confused, dear. LOA basically means prolonged absence from work. It can be part of FMLA or ADA, which usually are related to emergent and unexpected situations, or it can be a planned absence. There is a LOA process for planned absences but the term LOA also covers FMLA and ADA types of situations. Read your manual.
Anonymous
02/25/2021 08:15
Subject: Teachers are taking a leave of absence
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Again, I'm pretty sure anyone taking LOA right now is in violation of contract. Wasn't the LOA deadline back in October sometime?
LOL at you. Like the need for a LOA only occurs to a rigid timeline!!! Not. In my organization people put in LOAs when they need them. Of course the same should hold true for teachers.
Family crises or the need to take time away from work to deal with urgent issues isn't normally scheduled. That's why emergencies are called...wait for it...emergencies. And that's why the LOA process exists.
If a teacher needs to put in for a LOA then he or she should. It is a normal part of business and a school system is no different than any other business in that regard.
Sorry no. Outside of FMLA and ADA, teachers can’t just take LOA whenever they want and keep their job for when they return. That’s not how it works in the public school system. You sound like you are not a teacher.
Anonymous
02/25/2021 08:03
Subject: Teachers are taking a leave of absence
Anonymous wrote:Again, I'm pretty sure anyone taking LOA right now is in violation of contract. Wasn't the LOA deadline back in October sometime?
LOL at you. Like the need for a LOA only occurs to a rigid timeline!!! Not. In my organization people put in LOAs when they need them. Of course the same should hold true for teachers.
Family crises or the need to take time away from work to deal with urgent issues isn't normally scheduled. That's why emergencies are called...wait for it...emergencies. And that's why the LOA process exists.
If a teacher needs to put in for a LOA then he or she should. It is a normal part of business and a school system is no different than any other business in that regard.
Anonymous
02/24/2021 22:00
Subject: Teachers are taking a leave of absence
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:'Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Again, I'm pretty sure anyone taking LOA right now is in violation of contract. Wasn't the LOA deadline back in October sometime?
Emerging risks have to be accommodated. That could be a new diagnosis or worsening disease activity.
Are you thinking of ADA instead of LOA?
Nope. If Teacher A was diagnosed with cancer last week, they still qualify for the FMLA leave. The school system can’t say too bad you weren’t diagnosed before our deadline last fall. Same with Teacher B that already had Type 2 diabetes last fall but worsened to stage 3 kidney disease in the past month.
That's possible, yes.
But childcare concerns didn't come up out of the blue. And tbh, much of the possible health concerns are alleviated with the vaccines (speaking as someone with some significant health concerns).
Anonymous
02/24/2021 21:37
Subject: Teachers are taking a leave of absence
Anonymous wrote:'Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Again, I'm pretty sure anyone taking LOA right now is in violation of contract. Wasn't the LOA deadline back in October sometime?
Emerging risks have to be accommodated. That could be a new diagnosis or worsening disease activity.
Are you thinking of ADA instead of LOA?
Nope. If Teacher A was diagnosed with cancer last week, they still qualify for the FMLA leave. The school system can’t say too bad you weren’t diagnosed before our deadline last fall. Same with Teacher B that already had Type 2 diabetes last fall but worsened to stage 3 kidney disease in the past month.
Anonymous
02/24/2021 21:24
Subject: Teachers are taking a leave of absence
Anonymous wrote:'Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Again, I'm pretty sure anyone taking LOA right now is in violation of contract. Wasn't the LOA deadline back in October sometime?
Emerging risks have to be accommodated. That could be a new diagnosis or worsening disease activity.
Are you thinking of ADA instead of LOA?
One of the ADA accommodations APS is granting is a protected leave of absence
Anonymous
02/24/2021 21:04
Subject: Teachers are taking a leave of absence
'Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Again, I'm pretty sure anyone taking LOA right now is in violation of contract. Wasn't the LOA deadline back in October sometime?
Emerging risks have to be accommodated. That could be a new diagnosis or worsening disease activity.
Are you thinking of ADA instead of LOA?
Anonymous
02/24/2021 20:38
Subject: Re:Teachers are taking a leave of absence
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The only teachers I know that are taking a LOA are doing it for childcare reasons. Also it's unpaid. They've decided that childcare would be too expensive vs their salary so they are staying home with their kids. It have nothing to do with vaccines.
Did they get a vaccine before giving notice?
We need teachers vaccinated. We need virtual teachers vaccinated. We need hybrid teachers vaccinated. We need teachers returning at a later date vaccinated.
If you're talking about things we need, we need for teachers not to quit in March. Vaccinated or unvaccinated. But we don't get what we need, do we?
I'm confused. All year parents on DCUM have been frothing at the mouth screaming IF YOU WON'T GO BACK IN PERSON THEN QUIT! OMG! A TOTALLY UNQUALIFIED WARM BODY IN PERSON IS BETTER THAN AN EXPERIENCED REMOTE TEACHER.
DCUM parents now: OMG What do you MEAAAAN you're quitting?!?!?
Exactly. They're getting what they wanted. Too bad so sad. Not.
No, I'm glad that teachers who don't want to teach are quitting. Sorry "taking leave". They should have done that before getting the vaccine. But at least they've finally gotten around to quitting, which they should have done earlier.
Nope. They were under no obligation to do it earlier because you demanded they do so. They performed their duties safely via DL until their employer decided to force them back in person during a pandemic, so then they quit, and rightly so.
Anonymous
02/24/2021 20:35
Subject: Teachers are taking a leave of absence
Anonymous wrote:Again, I'm pretty sure anyone taking LOA right now is in violation of contract. Wasn't the LOA deadline back in October sometime?
Emerging risks have to be accommodated. That could be a new diagnosis or worsening disease activity.
Anonymous
02/24/2021 20:34
Subject: Teachers are taking a leave of absence
Anonymous wrote:Again, I'm pretty sure anyone taking LOA right now is in violation of contract. Wasn't the LOA deadline back in October sometime?
What school system are you talking about? They all have different policies on this.
Anonymous
02/24/2021 20:33
Subject: Teachers are taking a leave of absence
Anonymous wrote:Well that's their right but unfortunately many are working while feeling very uncomfortable. At least they have an option for a leave of absence. Some "essential workers" don't have that option.
What school system is this in?
Almost everyone who works for a large enough employer can apply for the same unpaid FMLA leave as teachers qualify for.
Anonymous
02/24/2021 20:33
Subject: Re:Teachers are taking a leave of absence
Anonymous wrote:So one school has two teachers that are taking LOAs, and this is supposed to be a crisis?
A crisis? No, of course not. This is just a discussion.
Anonymous
02/24/2021 20:30
Subject: Teachers are taking a leave of absence
Again, I'm pretty sure anyone taking LOA right now is in violation of contract. Wasn't the LOA deadline back in October sometime?
Anonymous
02/24/2021 19:53
Subject: Re:Teachers are taking a leave of absence
So one school has two teachers that are taking LOAs, and this is supposed to be a crisis?