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Anonymous wrote:There should be something done for Fairfax County residents to get some tax dollars refunded due to the lack of education provided by FCPS.

This!!!!!!!!

Money's already been spent.

It’s hasn’t been though. There is a 700M surplus the governor is bragging about. And it is almost certainly due to the massively lowever operational costs of DL. Now, he wants to spend it by giving it to the the teachers who’d saved it by keeping school closed. But it needs to go back to tappers that have supplemented and has to leave jobs and d to get mental health treatment and acquired the costs so they could save.

Absolutely should go to parents, many of whom have done two jobs since Sept.

And teachers will get that money as well because probably over 50% of them are parents as well.

You are 1000% wrong. Money doesn't make teachers safer. In-person learning will not "sacrifice" teachers' lives. Asking for in-person learning is not for my "comfort". There is plenty of disdain and vitriol from teachers. Expecting a safe return to schools is not a reflection of "parenting issues". It is in the best interest of a child's dedication. Child suicides are a direct result of forced virtual learning. Teachers and the entire system are complicit and are to blame.

I am 100 % correct. The money I am referring to is stimulus and recompense for added burdens, lost jobs, lost business, lost time, lost pay.

Yes, putting teachers in school does indeed threaten their lives. What bubble do you live in that informed you regarding teacher illness and death? Check out Iowa.


Yes, it is for YOUR COMFORT, because you clearly are unable to manage this crisis. There are many, many workarounds. You will not have plan A in a pandemic, maybe not even B. Understand that things absolutely cannot be what you want. Things will not be the way they were.

Child suicides are absolutely not from not being in school. I am sure that many a mental health crisis has occured as a result of this pandemic, and the reasons are multiple, but the crisis is independent of your narrow focus. A parent may say a kid was depressed in not seeing his friends, but there will be no mention of the parent depression of managing kids, work, illness, and lost pay as contributions. Not to mention a parent *who cannot adapt to change.* A teacher should not have to sacrifice his or her life as a remedy for a real situational crisis that will affect everyone. The teacher also likely has a job and kids.


You have zero knowledge of any personal circumstance yet choose to politicize SUICIDE, yeah-even suicide, to make your point- which is disturbing and despicable. What the hell did you attribute child suicide to before virtual learning? Mental health issues have always been pervasive in children's lives. Ironically, some of them stemmed from incidents in school. Yet, why not stretch this for your own benefit? I see that while you point out suicide as a result of virtual learning, you don't even consider the definite possibility of death from COVID in the return from face to face learning. So, you don't get to decide why people die as well as who dies. In a pandemic, thousands upon thousands will die. We have only some control there.

Vitriol against parents from teachers? Yes, of course.
You have just illuminated the "why" here. You are an example of the absolute worst.
Here's my suggestion. Get some help...mental and physical. Find a pod to work with. Get some assistance with your children. Help others if you have resources.

I certainly hope the return to the building will not happen. But since it appears to be likely, get ready for virtual learning by April again.

You can choose to be a help in this world, or you can choose to be a hinderance.

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Anonymous wrote:Vaccinate teachers.

Just, literally, SHUT UP and vaccinate the teachers and then your kids will be out of your hair and your daycare needs will be met, because, let's face it, that's what this is about.

Stop using dumb isolated incidents, your level of comfort, and dumb-brained whataboutisms to support something that everyone understands, even YOU, that is very risky right now. Teachers are not going to be sacrificed for your comfort and job concerns. They are already working harder than most.

But, in the end, the sizeable CHASM caused by the endless complaining by parents and vitriol about everything summarily dumped in the teachers' laps has already irreversibly damaged the school- home connection, any trust whatsoever, and the future of this profession.

No, I am not currently teaching, so I have no horse in this game. I have been retired for 5 years. I am in contact with many families and their children, and I have also raised children. The parents, generally, are wrong here and the help required, financial and otherwise, needed to come from the Federal government. I am so glad for the parents who do understand, and there are many of them, thank goodness.

Teachers are not the answer to your parenting and financial issues. The worst part is using suicide as examples. As teachers, all of us can sadly illuminate incidence of child suicide having nothing to do with a pandemic.

Public schooling will never be the same after this. No union can save it now. But, go ahead and sue...waste your time and money.

You are 1000% wrong. Money doesn't make teachers safer. In-person learning will not "sacrifice" teachers' lives. Asking for in-person learning is not for my "comfort". There is plenty of disdain and vitriol from teachers. Expecting a safe return to schools is not a reflection of "parenting issues". It is in the best interest of a child's dedication. Child suicides are a direct result of forced virtual learning. Teachers and the entire system are complicit and are to blame.

You think teachers and schools are more responsible for a child’s mental health than that child’s parents? Talk about neglecting parental responsibilities.

The subject of this forum is “legal action” against FCPS for those who hold the schools and teachers responsible for whatever they think their children should be getting and are not getting. Apparently, that is a range of services beyond just a “free education” if the children’s lives depend on school being in session and in person.

I am sorry confronting your own parental deficiencies is so difficult for you. Learn how to do it, though, if you really want to help your kids.

Actually, you’re right. And, it has been For 9 months, I was nice. I had Grace. I tried to see the other persons point of view. I told myself it was hard all around in a pandemic. And I told my kid to do the same. And I waited for other people— teachers, the SB, Brabrand, to develop a coherent plant to get kids fully back and start prioritizing their needs. That was a parenting deficiency. And when Kim started on until my kid is vaxxed— probably spring of 2022– it hit me, I could have Grace for another year and let the damage keep mounting. And we still would be DL or concurrent.

My kid has no vote and no real voice. And no one in FCPS going to voluntarily do what’s in her best interest. And why should I expect the SB to fight for my kid if I won’t? I don’t want to be this angry. And I don’t want to fight the teachers I once thought were my allies. But I will. Because my willingness to sit back and trust FCPS hurt my child.

So, I’m done having Grace. And I’m done being nice, and I’m going to do my job as parent and fight for her educational needs.

And yes, I’m angry at myself for being so passive and trusting to my kids detriment.

Okay. Teachers don’t make these decisions. So please be mad at the higher ups, but teachers have no control of when we return.

They do though. Ask a kid with a vaccinated teacher and a monitor.

I am actually curious how many students have this scenario. At my school, only one classroom teacher has a monitor.

They are hiring over 800 monitors. And on some levels, they cover for multiple teachers (ie, Latin and physics both DL with headphones and a monitor). Plus, they are pulling teachers to be monitors during breaks.

So, more than a few.

I am curious to see breakdown by school and by subject. I am curious in how many core subject teachers need monitors.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There should be something done for Fairfax County residents to get some tax dollars refunded due to the lack of education provided by FCPS.

This!!!!!!!!

I was told that this forum was frequented by upper middle class moms. I don’t think that can be true, though, with so many posts that reveal a complete ignorance of the role of government and taxes. I suppose I mistakenly equated upper middle class with well educated?

We have a $700M surplus because as southern states have shown us for years, crappy education 4 days a week costs a lot less. Many areas would rebate this. I think VA and Fairfax County should. Northman wants to give teachers raises. That’s going to go over well /s.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Vaccinate teachers.

Just, literally, SHUT UP and vaccinate the teachers and then your kids will be out of your hair and your daycare needs will be met, because, let's face it, that's what this is about.

Stop using dumb isolated incidents, your level of comfort, and dumb-brained whataboutisms to support something that everyone understands, even YOU, that is very risky right now. Teachers are not going to be sacrificed for your comfort and job concerns. They are already working harder than most.

But, in the end, the sizeable CHASM caused by the endless complaining by parents and vitriol about everything summarily dumped in the teachers' laps has already irreversibly damaged the school- home connection, any trust whatsoever, and the future of this profession.

No, I am not currently teaching, so I have no horse in this game. I have been retired for 5 years. I am in contact with many families and their children, and I have also raised children. The parents, generally, are wrong here and the help required, financial and otherwise, needed to come from the Federal government. I am so glad for the parents who do understand, and there are many of them, thank goodness.

Teachers are not the answer to your parenting and financial issues. The worst part is using suicide as examples. As teachers, all of us can sadly illuminate incidence of child suicide having nothing to do with a pandemic.

Public schooling will never be the same after this. No union can save it now. But, go ahead and sue...waste your time and money.

You are 1000% wrong. Money doesn't make teachers safer. In-person learning will not "sacrifice" teachers' lives. Asking for in-person learning is not for my "comfort". There is plenty of disdain and vitriol from teachers. Expecting a safe return to schools is not a reflection of "parenting issues". It is in the best interest of a child's dedication. Child suicides are a direct result of forced virtual learning. Teachers and the entire system are complicit and are to blame.

You think teachers and schools are more responsible for a child’s mental health than that child’s parents? Talk about neglecting parental responsibilities.

The subject of this forum is “legal action” against FCPS for those who hold the schools and teachers responsible for whatever they think their children should be getting and are not getting. Apparently, that is a range of services beyond just a “free education” if the children’s lives depend on school being in session and in person.

I am sorry confronting your own parental deficiencies is so difficult for you. Learn how to do it, though, if you really want to help your kids.

Actually, you’re right. And, it has been For 9 months, I was nice. I had Grace. I tried to see the other persons point of view. I told myself it was hard all around in a pandemic. And I told my kid to do the same. And I waited for other people— teachers, the SB, Brabrand, to develop a coherent plant to get kids fully back and start prioritizing their needs. That was a parenting deficiency. And when Kim started on until my kid is vaxxed— probably spring of 2022– it hit me, I could have Grace for another year and let the damage keep mounting. And we still would be DL or concurrent.

My kid has no vote and no real voice. And no one in FCPS going to voluntarily do what’s in her best interest. And why should I expect the SB to fight for my kid if I won’t? I don’t want to be this angry. And I don’t want to fight the teachers I once thought were my allies. But I will. Because my willingness to sit back and trust FCPS hurt my child.

So, I’m done having Grace. And I’m done being nice, and I’m going to do my job as parent and fight for her educational needs.

And yes, I’m angry at myself for being so passive and trusting to my kids detriment.

Okay. Teachers don’t make these decisions. So please be mad at the higher ups, but teachers have no control of when we return.

They do though. Ask a kid with a vaccinated teacher and a monitor.

I am actually curious how many students have this scenario. At my school, only one classroom teacher has a monitor.

They are hiring over 800 monitors. And on some levels, they cover for multiple teachers (ie, Latin and physics both DL with headphones and a monitor). Plus, they are pulling teachers to be monitors during breaks.

So, more than a few.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There should be something done for Fairfax County residents to get some tax dollars refunded due to the lack of education provided by FCPS.

This!!!!!!!!

Money's already been spent.

It’s hasn’t been though. There is a 700M surplus the governor is bragging about. And it is almost certainly due to the massively lowever operational costs of DL. Now, he wants to spend it by giving it to the the teachers who’d saved it by keeping school closed. But it needs to go back to tappers that have supplemented and has to leave jobs and d to get mental health treatment and acquired the costs so they could save.

Absolutely should go to parents, many of whom have done two jobs since Sept.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Vaccinate teachers.

Just, literally, SHUT UP and vaccinate the teachers and then your kids will be out of your hair and your daycare needs will be met, because, let's face it, that's what this is about.

Stop using dumb isolated incidents, your level of comfort, and dumb-brained whataboutisms to support something that everyone understands, even YOU, that is very risky right now. Teachers are not going to be sacrificed for your comfort and job concerns. They are already working harder than most.

But, in the end, the sizeable CHASM caused by the endless complaining by parents and vitriol about everything summarily dumped in the teachers' laps has already irreversibly damaged the school- home connection, any trust whatsoever, and the future of this profession.

No, I am not currently teaching, so I have no horse in this game. I have been retired for 5 years. I am in contact with many families and their children, and I have also raised children. The parents, generally, are wrong here and the help required, financial and otherwise, needed to come from the Federal government. I am so glad for the parents who do understand, and there are many of them, thank goodness.

Teachers are not the answer to your parenting and financial issues. The worst part is using suicide as examples. As teachers, all of us can sadly illuminate incidence of child suicide having nothing to do with a pandemic.

Public schooling will never be the same after this. No union can save it now. But, go ahead and sue...waste your time and money.

You are 1000% wrong. Money doesn't make teachers safer. In-person learning will not "sacrifice" teachers' lives. Asking for in-person learning is not for my "comfort". There is plenty of disdain and vitriol from teachers. Expecting a safe return to schools is not a reflection of "parenting issues". It is in the best interest of a child's dedication. Child suicides are a direct result of forced virtual learning. Teachers and the entire system are complicit and are to blame.

You think teachers and schools are more responsible for a child’s mental health than that child’s parents? Talk about neglecting parental responsibilities.

The subject of this forum is “legal action” against FCPS for those who hold the schools and teachers responsible for whatever they think their children should be getting and are not getting. Apparently, that is a range of services beyond just a “free education” if the children’s lives depend on school being in session and in person.

I am sorry confronting your own parental deficiencies is so difficult for you. Learn how to do it, though, if you really want to help your kids.

Actually, you’re right. And, it has been For 9 months, I was nice. I had Grace. I tried to see the other persons point of view. I told myself it was hard all around in a pandemic. And I told my kid to do the same. And I waited for other people— teachers, the SB, Brabrand, to develop a coherent plant to get kids fully back and start prioritizing their needs. That was a parenting deficiency. And when Kim started on until my kid is vaxxed— probably spring of 2022– it hit me, I could have Grace for another year and let the damage keep mounting. And we still would be DL or concurrent.

My kid has no vote and no real voice. And no one in FCPS going to voluntarily do what’s in her best interest. And why should I expect the SB to fight for my kid if I won’t? I don’t want to be this angry. And I don’t want to fight the teachers I once thought were my allies. But I will. Because my willingness to sit back and trust FCPS hurt my child.

So, I’m done having Grace. And I’m done being nice, and I’m going to do my job as parent and fight for her educational needs.

And yes, I’m angry at myself for being so passive and trusting to my kids detriment.

What, exactly, do you think FCPS gives your child that you cannot give yourself? I think you are expecting more than an education, here. You are your child’s first teacher and primary caregiver. Rather than fighting the system, start spending quality time with your child. She needs you, not the version of you that is off jousting windmills.

An orchestra room

A physics lab

A robotics lab

I have gotten unbelievably close to my kid this year. We’re all we have. And I treasure that more than you can imagine. Her brother is in college. She’s leaving soon. This extra time was absolutely a blessing. But no matter how much I love her, I can’t build a physics lab in my home or direct an orchestra. Or, as she says: they took,away all I love about school and just left the sucky parts. I hear ya kid.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Vaccinate teachers.

Just, literally, SHUT UP and vaccinate the teachers and then your kids will be out of your hair and your daycare needs will be met, because, let's face it, that's what this is about.

Stop using dumb isolated incidents, your level of comfort, and dumb-brained whataboutisms to support something that everyone understands, even YOU, that is very risky right now. Teachers are not going to be sacrificed for your comfort and job concerns. They are already working harder than most.

But, in the end, the sizeable CHASM caused by the endless complaining by parents and vitriol about everything summarily dumped in the teachers' laps has already irreversibly damaged the school- home connection, any trust whatsoever, and the future of this profession.

No, I am not currently teaching, so I have no horse in this game. I have been retired for 5 years. I am in contact with many families and their children, and I have also raised children. The parents, generally, are wrong here and the help required, financial and otherwise, needed to come from the Federal government. I am so glad for the parents who do understand, and there are many of them, thank goodness.

Teachers are not the answer to your parenting and financial issues. The worst part is using suicide as examples. As teachers, all of us can sadly illuminate incidence of child suicide having nothing to do with a pandemic.

Public schooling will never be the same after this. No union can save it now. But, go ahead and sue...waste your time and money.

You are 1000% wrong. Money doesn't make teachers safer. In-person learning will not "sacrifice" teachers' lives. Asking for in-person learning is not for my "comfort". There is plenty of disdain and vitriol from teachers. Expecting a safe return to schools is not a reflection of "parenting issues". It is in the best interest of a child's dedication. Child suicides are a direct result of forced virtual learning. Teachers and the entire system are complicit and are to blame.

You think teachers and schools are more responsible for a child’s mental health than that child’s parents? Talk about neglecting parental responsibilities.

The subject of this forum is “legal action” against FCPS for those who hold the schools and teachers responsible for whatever they think their children should be getting and are not getting. Apparently, that is a range of services beyond just a “free education” if the children’s lives depend on school being in session and in person.

I am sorry confronting your own parental deficiencies is so difficult for you. Learn how to do it, though, if you really want to help your kids.

Actually, you’re right. And, it has been For 9 months, I was nice. I had Grace. I tried to see the other persons point of view. I told myself it was hard all around in a pandemic. And I told my kid to do the same. And I waited for other people— teachers, the SB, Brabrand, to develop a coherent plant to get kids fully back and start prioritizing their needs. That was a parenting deficiency. And when Kim started on until my kid is vaxxed— probably spring of 2022– it hit me, I could have Grace for another year and let the damage keep mounting. And we still would be DL or concurrent.

My kid has no vote and no real voice. And no one in FCPS going to voluntarily do what’s in her best interest. And why should I expect the SB to fight for my kid if I won’t? I don’t want to be this angry. And I don’t want to fight the teachers I once thought were my allies. But I will. Because my willingness to sit back and trust FCPS hurt my child.

So, I’m done having Grace. And I’m done being nice, and I’m going to do my job as parent and fight for her educational needs.

And yes, I’m angry at myself for being so passive and trusting to my kids detriment.

Okay. Teachers don’t make these decisions. So please be mad at the higher ups, but teachers have no control of when we return.

They do though. Ask a kid with a vaccinated teacher and a monitor.

I am not saying it is right, but the county made this decision, allowing this to happen after ADA.

And the teacher chose to maintain an ADA request when they no longer needed it at a time when little kids desperately need them in person.

So you know who they are recruiting to be monitors? My class of 2020 kids friends. Yep. At least 18 and a HS diploma— monitors only need a GED. And many are on gap year or able to work PT around classes. And my kid and his friends are great. But, they are in no way qualified to manage 10 6 year olds with COVID restrictions who haven’t been in a classroom in a year.

So yes, I’m judging those teachers. Maybe “the system” allows it. But it’s still a crappy thing to do, especially after also accepting the vaccine.

Just gonna leave this here as to why legal action for FCPS SB and teachers federation is warranted:

Studies that show little or no risk of student to teacher transmission:

North Carolina: https://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/ped...1/06/peds.2020-048090.full.pdf

RESULTS: Over 9 weeks, 11 participating school districts had more than 90,000 students and
staff attend school in-person; of these, there were 773 community-acquired SARS-CoV-2
infections documented by molecular testing. Through contact tracing, NC health department staff
determined an additional 32 infections were acquired within schools. No instances of child-toadult transmission of SARS-CoV-2 were reported within schools.
CONCLUSIONS: In the first 9 weeks of in-person instruction in NC schools, we found
extremely limited within-school secondary transmission of SARS-CoV-2, as determined by
contact tracing.

Wisconsin: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7004e3.htm

Among 17 rural Wisconsin schools, reported student mask-wearing was high, and the COVID-19 incidence among students and staff members was lower than in the county overall (3,453 versus 5,466 per 100,000). Among 191 cases identified in students and staff members, only seven (3.7%) cases, all among students, were linked to in-school spread. What are the implications for public health practice? With masking requirements and student cohorting, transmission risk within schools appeared low, suggesting that schools might be able to safely open with appropriate mitigation efforts in place.

Sweden: https://www.nejm.org/doi/10.1056/NEJMc2026670

Norway: https://www.eurosurveillance.org/content/10.2807/1560-7917.ES.2020.26.1.2002011

Michigan and Washington: https://epicedpolicy.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/1.../COVID-and-Schools-Dec2020.pdf

And a meta-analysis: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33437465/

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There should be something done for Fairfax County residents to get some tax dollars refunded due to the lack of education provided by FCPS.

This!!!!!!!!

Money's already been spent.

It’s hasn’t been though. There is a 700M surplus the governor is bragging about. And it is almost certainly due to the massively lowever operational costs of DL. Now, he wants to spend it by giving it to the the teachers who’d saved it by keeping school closed. But it needs to go back to tappers that have supplemented and has to leave jobs and d to get mental health treatment and acquired the costs so they could save.

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Anonymous wrote:Teachers could have been national heroes. "Getting kids back into the classrooms is the most important thing. Parents are great, but nothing can replace in-person instruction from qualified and trained educators. That's why we're doing everything we can to get back to in-person instruction at the start of the 2020-2021 school year. We can do this safely for everyone. We will make this happen."

National heroes. You'd have a lot less resistance getting those billions for teacher's salaries had you actually put the kids first.

Whoever has been advising the Association/Federation on PR and policy should be fired.

Back in July, I wasn't going to be a national hero at the risk of my health and my family's health. I do agree that things are different now. But 6 months ago, no.

And you are the very first teacher I have heard say that. So thank you. I understood the anxiety in July. We were all anxious. No one knew. It is different now with more data and vaccinated teachers. But the you hate your kid, DL is a good education, you just want to kill teachers rhetoric does not feel like it’s slowed. If anything, it seems like teachers are hardening.

^^^this.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Vaccinate teachers.

Just, literally, SHUT UP and vaccinate the teachers and then your kids will be out of your hair and your daycare needs will be met, because, let's face it, that's what this is about.

Stop using dumb isolated incidents, your level of comfort, and dumb-brained whataboutisms to support something that everyone understands, even YOU, that is very risky right now. Teachers are not going to be sacrificed for your comfort and job concerns. They are already working harder than most.

But, in the end, the sizeable CHASM caused by the endless complaining by parents and vitriol about everything summarily dumped in the teachers' laps has already irreversibly damaged the school- home connection, any trust whatsoever, and the future of this profession.

No, I am not currently teaching, so I have no horse in this game. I have been retired for 5 years. I am in contact with many families and their children, and I have also raised children. The parents, generally, are wrong here and the help required, financial and otherwise, needed to come from the Federal government. I am so glad for the parents who do understand, and there are many of them, thank goodness.

Teachers are not the answer to your parenting and financial issues. The worst part is using suicide as examples. As teachers, all of us can sadly illuminate incidence of child suicide having nothing to do with a pandemic.

Public schooling will never be the same after this. No union can save it now. But, go ahead and sue...waste your time and money.

You are 1000% wrong. Money doesn't make teachers safer. In-person learning will not "sacrifice" teachers' lives. Asking for in-person learning is not for my "comfort". There is plenty of disdain and vitriol from teachers. Expecting a safe return to schools is not a reflection of "parenting issues". It is in the best interest of a child's dedication. Child suicides are a direct result of forced virtual learning. Teachers and the entire system are complicit and are to blame.

You think teachers and schools are more responsible for a child’s mental health than that child’s parents? Talk about neglecting parental responsibilities.

The subject of this forum is “legal action” against FCPS for those who hold the schools and teachers responsible for whatever they think their children should be getting and are not getting. Apparently, that is a range of services beyond just a “free education” if the children’s lives depend on school being in session and in person.

I am sorry confronting your own parental deficiencies is so difficult for you. Learn how to do it, though, if you really want to help your kids.

So gross to see anyone speak up about how the distance learning environment has placed a strain on their family or stunted their child's academic progress, be lumped in as "being a bad parent". If kids are floundering academically, it's the school system's fault.

I will never forgive selfish teachers and school officials for this situation.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There should be something done for Fairfax County residents to get some tax dollars refunded due to the lack of education provided by FCPS.

This!!!!!!!!

I was told that this forum was frequented by upper middle class moms. I don’t think that can be true, though, with so many posts that reveal a complete ignorance of the role of government and taxes. I suppose I mistakenly equated upper middle class with well educated?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Vaccinate teachers.

Just, literally, SHUT UP and vaccinate the teachers and then your kids will be out of your hair and your daycare needs will be met, because, let's face it, that's what this is about.

Stop using dumb isolated incidents, your level of comfort, and dumb-brained whataboutisms to support something that everyone understands, even YOU, that is very risky right now. Teachers are not going to be sacrificed for your comfort and job concerns. They are already working harder than most.

But, in the end, the sizeable CHASM caused by the endless complaining by parents and vitriol about everything summarily dumped in the teachers' laps has already irreversibly damaged the school- home connection, any trust whatsoever, and the future of this profession.

No, I am not currently teaching, so I have no horse in this game. I have been retired for 5 years. I am in contact with many families and their children, and I have also raised children. The parents, generally, are wrong here and the help required, financial and otherwise, needed to come from the Federal government. I am so glad for the parents who do understand, and there are many of them, thank goodness.

Teachers are not the answer to your parenting and financial issues. The worst part is using suicide as examples. As teachers, all of us can sadly illuminate incidence of child suicide having nothing to do with a pandemic.

Public schooling will never be the same after this. No union can save it now. But, go ahead and sue...waste your time and money.

You are 1000% wrong. Money doesn't make teachers safer. In-person learning will not "sacrifice" teachers' lives. Asking for in-person learning is not for my "comfort". There is plenty of disdain and vitriol from teachers. Expecting a safe return to schools is not a reflection of "parenting issues". It is in the best interest of a child's dedication. Child suicides are a direct result of forced virtual learning. Teachers and the entire system are complicit and are to blame.

You think teachers and schools are more responsible for a child’s mental health than that child’s parents? Talk about neglecting parental responsibilities.

The subject of this forum is “legal action” against FCPS for those who hold the schools and teachers responsible for whatever they think their children should be getting and are not getting. Apparently, that is a range of services beyond just a “free education” if the children’s lives depend on school being in session and in person.

I am sorry confronting your own parental deficiencies is so difficult for you. Learn how to do it, though, if you really want to help your kids.

Actually, you’re right. And, it has been For 9 months, I was nice. I had Grace. I tried to see the other persons point of view. I told myself it was hard all around in a pandemic. And I told my kid to do the same. And I waited for other people— teachers, the SB, Brabrand, to develop a coherent plant to get kids fully back and start prioritizing their needs. That was a parenting deficiency. And when Kim started on until my kid is vaxxed— probably spring of 2022– it hit me, I could have Grace for another year and let the damage keep mounting. And we still would be DL or concurrent.

My kid has no vote and no real voice. And no one in FCPS going to voluntarily do what’s in her best interest. And why should I expect the SB to fight for my kid if I won’t? I don’t want to be this angry. And I don’t want to fight the teachers I once thought were my allies. But I will. Because my willingness to sit back and trust FCPS hurt my child.

So, I’m done having Grace. And I’m done being nice, and I’m going to do my job as parent and fight for her educational needs.

And yes, I’m angry at myself for being so passive and trusting to my kids detriment.

Okay. Teachers don’t make these decisions. So please be mad at the higher ups, but teachers have no control of when we return.

They do though. Ask a kid with a vaccinated teacher and a monitor.

I am actually curious how many students have this scenario. At my school, only one classroom teacher has a monitor.

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Anonymous wrote:Vaccinate teachers.

Just, literally, SHUT UP and vaccinate the teachers and then your kids will be out of your hair and your daycare needs will be met, because, let's face it, that's what this is about.

Stop using dumb isolated incidents, your level of comfort, and dumb-brained whataboutisms to support something that everyone understands, even YOU, that is very risky right now. Teachers are not going to be sacrificed for your comfort and job concerns. They are already working harder than most.

But, in the end, the sizeable CHASM caused by the endless complaining by parents and vitriol about everything summarily dumped in the teachers' laps has already irreversibly damaged the school- home connection, any trust whatsoever, and the future of this profession.

No, I am not currently teaching, so I have no horse in this game. I have been retired for 5 years. I am in contact with many families and their children, and I have also raised children. The parents, generally, are wrong here and the help required, financial and otherwise, needed to come from the Federal government. I am so glad for the parents who do understand, and there are many of them, thank goodness.

Teachers are not the answer to your parenting and financial issues. The worst part is using suicide as examples. As teachers, all of us can sadly illuminate incidence of child suicide having nothing to do with a pandemic.

Public schooling will never be the same after this. No union can save it now. But, go ahead and sue...waste your time and money.

You are 1000% wrong. Money doesn't make teachers safer. In-person learning will not "sacrifice" teachers' lives. Asking for in-person learning is not for my "comfort". There is plenty of disdain and vitriol from teachers. Expecting a safe return to schools is not a reflection of "parenting issues". It is in the best interest of a child's dedication. Child suicides are a direct result of forced virtual learning. Teachers and the entire system are complicit and are to blame.

You think teachers and schools are more responsible for a child’s mental health than that child’s parents? Talk about neglecting parental responsibilities.

The subject of this forum is “legal action” against FCPS for those who hold the schools and teachers responsible for whatever they think their children should be getting and are not getting. Apparently, that is a range of services beyond just a “free education” if the children’s lives depend on school being in session and in person.

I am sorry confronting your own parental deficiencies is so difficult for you. Learn how to do it, though, if you really want to help your kids.

Actually, you’re right. And, it has been For 9 months, I was nice. I had Grace. I tried to see the other persons point of view. I told myself it was hard all around in a pandemic. And I told my kid to do the same. And I waited for other people— teachers, the SB, Brabrand, to develop a coherent plant to get kids fully back and start prioritizing their needs. That was a parenting deficiency. And when Kim started on until my kid is vaxxed— probably spring of 2022– it hit me, I could have Grace for another year and let the damage keep mounting. And we still would be DL or concurrent.

My kid has no vote and no real voice. And no one in FCPS going to voluntarily do what’s in her best interest. And why should I expect the SB to fight for my kid if I won’t? I don’t want to be this angry. And I don’t want to fight the teachers I once thought were my allies. But I will. Because my willingness to sit back and trust FCPS hurt my child.

So, I’m done having Grace. And I’m done being nice, and I’m going to do my job as parent and fight for her educational needs.

And yes, I’m angry at myself for being so passive and trusting to my kids detriment.

What, exactly, do you think FCPS gives your child that you cannot give yourself? I think you are expecting more than an education, here. You are your child’s first teacher and primary caregiver. Rather than fighting the system, start spending quality time with your child. She needs you, not the version of you that is off jousting windmills.