Anonymous
12/09/2020 10:11
Subject: Why doesn't MCPS care about Asian-Americans and feelings of bias/discrimination?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Not that PP but when people I know use the words "Asian culture" they often mean Asian American culture which is something kind of imposed on Asians in the United States since they are lumped together as a census category.
Yeah, and generally when people in the US refer to "European culture," they're white ethno-nationalists trying to justify anti-immigrant xenophobia.
I'm the "Asian culture" PP, when I say "Asian culture" I mean the culture in Asian countries, not the Asian American culture.
When my spouse, from Europe, says "southern European culture" vs "northern european culture" or "western european culture" vs "eastern european culture", it's not about xenophobia.
Anonymous
12/09/2020 10:00
Subject: Re:Why doesn't MCPS care about Asian-Americans and feelings of bias/discrimination?
Anonymous wrote:+1 OP is alleging systemic bias (policies and practices, particularly in magnet admissions). Those do not exist, or at least there's no proof that they exist. If MCPS is lying about the process being race-blind, then we can talk about systemic bias.
Other posters are talking about individual bias among kids, parents, and teachers when it comes to Asian American students. This is obviously a problem, but individual and systemic bias are different problems and require different interventions.
This is entirely too rational for DCUM...
Anonymous
12/09/2020 09:16
Subject: Why doesn't MCPS care about Asian-Americans and feelings of bias/discrimination?
Anonymous wrote:I am Asian, and I came here for college. DH is Asian American growing up here. I have never gone through MCPS yet, but I am keeping an eye open on this topic for my 2 young kids that are going to next MCPS in 1-2 years. I hear about it, but DH does not mention much because the last time he was in MCPS was back 25 years ago. He did mention there was bullying in school but he was not called out because he was always a big guy(now 6’3”) growing up.
One of my kid is special need with IEP, so she won’t fall into the typical stereotype of well behaved, smart and diligent Asian kid. Instead, she needs help and support, and hopefully not discriminated or unliked by her awkward social behavior.
This is why the "model minority" myth needs to be catapulted into the sun, by the way. All of the folks on this thread making the case that Asian American kids are inherently smarter, or harder working, or more diligent are making life harder for your child when they start school. If we accept that all races/ethnicities have kids with learning differences and behavioral differences, then we can accept that all races/ethnicities have kids who are gifted. It goes hand in hand.
Anonymous
12/09/2020 09:14
Subject: Re:Why doesn't MCPS care about Asian-Americans and feelings of bias/discrimination?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Are you Asian?
You have no clue. Seriously.
If you heard how some teachers disparage Asian students and parents in MCPS, you would feel differently.
"Are there teachers (and others) in MCPS who believe, say, and do bigoted things about Asian-Americans?" (Yes)
and
"Do MCPS policies and practices discriminate against Asian-Americans?" (No)
are related but different questions.
+1 OP is alleging systemic bias (policies and practices, particularly in magnet admissions). Those do not exist, or at least there's no proof that they exist. If MCPS is lying about the process being race-blind, then we can talk about systemic bias.
Other posters are talking about individual bias among kids, parents, and teachers when it comes to Asian American students. This is obviously a problem, but individual and systemic bias are different problems and require different interventions.
Anonymous
12/09/2020 09:12
Subject: Why doesn't MCPS care about Asian-Americans and feelings of bias/discrimination?
I am Asian, and I came here for college. DH is Asian American growing up here. I have never gone through MCPS yet, but I am keeping an eye open on this topic for my 2 young kids that are going to next MCPS in 1-2 years. I hear about it, but DH does not mention much because the last time he was in MCPS was back 25 years ago. He did mention there was bullying in school but he was not called out because he was always a big guy(now 6’3”) growing up.
One of my kid is special need with IEP, so she won’t fall into the typical stereotype of well behaved, smart and diligent Asian kid. Instead, she needs help and support, and hopefully not discriminated or unliked by her awkward social behavior.
One of my kid is special need with IEP, so she won’t fall into the typical stereotype of well behaved, smart and diligent Asian kid. Instead, she needs help and support, and hopefully not discriminated or unliked by her awkward social behavior.
Anonymous
12/09/2020 09:07
Subject: Why doesn't MCPS care about Asian-Americans and feelings of bias/discrimination?
Anonymous wrote:Show me your votes. If Asians have enough votes, Asian can sit at the table and talk.
Look at the Howard County BOE, Out of the 7 elected BOE members, 2 of them are Asians.
I'm guessing that they're Asian-Americans? Specifically, Chinese-Americans.
Anonymous
12/09/2020 09:05
Subject: Re:Why doesn't MCPS care about Asian-Americans and feelings of bias/discrimination?
Anonymous wrote:
Are you Asian?
You have no clue. Seriously.
If you heard how some teachers disparage Asian students and parents in MCPS, you would feel differently.
"Are there teachers (and others) in MCPS who believe, say, and do bigoted things about Asian-Americans?" (Yes)
and
"Do MCPS policies and practices discriminate against Asian-Americans?" (No)
are related but different questions.
Anonymous
12/09/2020 09:05
Subject: Why doesn't MCPS care about Asian-Americans and feelings of bias/discrimination?
+1
karen,
your assertion that there's no discrimination or bias against asians is incredibly racist and exactly what this thread is about.
karen,
your assertion that there's no discrimination or bias against asians is incredibly racist and exactly what this thread is about.
Anonymous
12/09/2020 08:50
Subject: Re:Why doesn't MCPS care about Asian-Americans and feelings of bias/discrimination?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Because MCPS is jumping on the woke train and AA have "white privilege".
As an Asian-American (who grew up low-income), I have yet to experience any white privilege. It really irks me that MCPS lumps Asian kids with white kids.
Why does MCPS have to suppress one group of kids in order to elevate another? My oldest is a 1st grader, so learning about how MCPS operates has been pretty eye-opening.
I feel the same. How about trying to simply elevate all kids?
This would be a great idea, in a school system where all kids came to school with with the same opportunities.
Yeah, best solution is to discriminate against Asians.
We need to be clear here - no one is discriminating against Asian American students. I mean, if you want to talk about why MCPS doesn't give Diwali or Lunar New Year off school, we can discuss that, but OP specifically mentioned magnet admissions, and there is no discrimination.
When MCPS retooled the magnet admissions, they prioritized kids who would otherwise not have an academic peer group. This "hurt" kids living in areas with lots of high achievers, meaning basically those in uniformly high SES neighborhoods. It "helped" kids living in neighborhoods with a lower number of high achievers, meaning those in more economically diverse neighborhoods.
The axis here along which MCPS "discriminates" is economic, not racial/ethnic, and prioritizing kids who would otherwise not have a peer group is a normal and legal rationale for magnet admissions.
Are you Asian?
You have no clue. Seriously.
If you heard how some teachers disparage Asian students and parents in MCPS, you would feel differently.
Anonymous
12/09/2020 08:49
Subject: Re:Why doesn't MCPS care about Asian-Americans and feelings of bias/discrimination?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Because MCPS is jumping on the woke train and AA have "white privilege".
As an Asian-American (who grew up low-income), I have yet to experience any white privilege. It really irks me that MCPS lumps Asian kids with white kids.
Why does MCPS have to suppress one group of kids in order to elevate another? My oldest is a 1st grader, so learning about how MCPS operates has been pretty eye-opening.
I feel the same. How about trying to simply elevate all kids?
This would be a great idea, in a school system where all kids came to school with with the same opportunities.
Yeah, best solution is to discriminate against Asians.
We need to be clear here - no one is discriminating against Asian American students. I mean, if you want to talk about why MCPS doesn't give Diwali or Lunar New Year off school, we can discuss that, but OP specifically mentioned magnet admissions, and there is no discrimination.
When MCPS retooled the magnet admissions, they prioritized kids who would otherwise not have an academic peer group. This "hurt" kids living in areas with lots of high achievers, meaning basically those in uniformly high SES neighborhoods. It "helped" kids living in neighborhoods with a lower number of high achievers, meaning those in more economically diverse neighborhoods.
The axis here along which MCPS "discriminates" is economic, not racial/ethnic, and prioritizing kids who would otherwise not have a peer group is a normal and legal rationale for magnet admissions.
What MCPS needs to do is offer MEANINGFUL ENRICHMENT to all kids who would benefit. At every school.
Bring back differentiation and divide up the classes.
Smaller class sizes for kids who need additional help.
There are kids at schools all over the county who would benefit from extra challenges at school. Instead, MCPS offers the advanced ELC at some schools and not others (not offered at our Focus school).
Anonymous
12/09/2020 08:00
Subject: Re:Why doesn't MCPS care about Asian-Americans and feelings of bias/discrimination?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Because MCPS is jumping on the woke train and AA have "white privilege".
As an Asian-American (who grew up low-income), I have yet to experience any white privilege. It really irks me that MCPS lumps Asian kids with white kids.
Why does MCPS have to suppress one group of kids in order to elevate another? My oldest is a 1st grader, so learning about how MCPS operates has been pretty eye-opening.
I feel the same. How about trying to simply elevate all kids?
This would be a great idea, in a school system where all kids came to school with with the same opportunities.
Yeah, best solution is to discriminate against Asians.
We need to be clear here - no one is discriminating against Asian American students. I mean, if you want to talk about why MCPS doesn't give Diwali or Lunar New Year off school, we can discuss that, but OP specifically mentioned magnet admissions, and there is no discrimination.
When MCPS retooled the magnet admissions, they prioritized kids who would otherwise not have an academic peer group. This "hurt" kids living in areas with lots of high achievers, meaning basically those in uniformly high SES neighborhoods. It "helped" kids living in neighborhoods with a lower number of high achievers, meaning those in more economically diverse neighborhoods.
The axis here along which MCPS "discriminates" is economic, not racial/ethnic, and prioritizing kids who would otherwise not have a peer group is a normal and legal rationale for magnet admissions.
Anonymous
12/09/2020 00:37
Subject: Re:Why doesn't MCPS care about Asian-Americans and feelings of bias/discrimination?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Because MCPS is jumping on the woke train and AA have "white privilege".
As an Asian-American (who grew up low-income), I have yet to experience any white privilege. It really irks me that MCPS lumps Asian kids with white kids.
Why does MCPS have to suppress one group of kids in order to elevate another? My oldest is a 1st grader, so learning about how MCPS operates has been pretty eye-opening.
I feel the same. How about trying to simply elevate all kids?
This would be a great idea, in a school system where all kids came to school with with the same opportunities.
Yeah, best solution is to discriminate against Asians.
Anonymous
12/09/2020 00:05
Subject: Why doesn't MCPS care about Asian-Americans and feelings of bias/discrimination?
Show me your votes. If Asians have enough votes, Asian can sit at the table and talk.
Look at the Howard County BOE, Out of the 7 elected BOE members, 2 of them are Asians.
Look at the Howard County BOE, Out of the 7 elected BOE members, 2 of them are Asians.
Anonymous
12/08/2020 23:49
Subject: Why doesn't MCPS care about Asian-Americans and feelings of bias/discrimination?
Anonymous wrote:The USA is the least racist country in the world. All other countries are far more racist. I’m so proud of the United States for being better than every other country in every way.
Russian Troll Alert!
Anonymous
12/08/2020 22:43
Subject: Re:Why doesn't MCPS care about Asian-Americans and feelings of bias/discrimination?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Because MCPS is jumping on the woke train and AA have "white privilege".
As an Asian-American (who grew up low-income), I have yet to experience any white privilege. It really irks me that MCPS lumps Asian kids with white kids.
Why does MCPS have to suppress one group of kids in order to elevate another? My oldest is a 1st grader, so learning about how MCPS operates has been pretty eye-opening.
I feel the same. How about trying to simply elevate all kids?
This would be a great idea, in a school system where all kids came to school with with the same opportunities.