Having “green juices and self care” as a mantra is loserdom by definition.

-Gen X

The pandemic has really shown me how many millennials have needed to either move in with mom and dad or have mom and dad move in with them because they cannot cope with a little stress and hardship.

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Anonymous wrote:As a gen-x manager, I find millennials draining. As someone upthread pointed out, it’s the need for positive feedback, picking and choosing projects based on whether it makes them feel fulfilled, and the inability to shut up and listen and learn that makes me crazy. Part of that is based on characteristics of my generation. - many of our parents were silent generation and we were a lot of latchkey kids. It was kind of ingrained that no one really cared what we thought and you just be quiet and get things done. I’m actually uncomfortable when people gush about my work, and I don’t need rewards - I figure if someone is unhappy they’ll let me know. My workplace is not there to make me feel validated as a human being. I don’t normally think about providing lots of positive feedback. I am very aware of being respectful of peoples’ time out of work and wanting people to have down time, but when it’s your turn to take the grunt work and spend actual time becoming good in what you do, you need to do it.

That’s interesting, because my older managers regularly praise me (early 30s millennial) for being the hardest working person in our office and willing to take on any grunt task. Frankly, they are too lazy to do it themselves and own that, which is kind of funny and refreshing. I don’t mind it because they have my back and award/promote me regularly. Just goes to show you that it’s pointless to generalize.

Girl, I'm sure you're great. But I definitely praise my early 30s employees more than older employees, because I perceive they need it. I never lie, but I deliver praise in the way that people can best receive it. Younger people seem to need it to be more effusive. To me, it's not bad or good. It's different.

Also, to be clear, my older employees absolutely know that I think they are awesome. But I deliver their praise in 1-2 specific, detailed sentences. Beyond that, they get uncomfortable.

Well, whatever works for you and your team. I would like to think I am not praised because my managers perceive that I “need” it more so than others solely because of my age, but I certainly could be wrong. How do you treat your even younger colleagues if you treat your early 30s employees like children?

I tend to find these threads annoying because it is obviously frustrating to be judged the way some people here do just for being a millennial. I’m 33, for crying out loud. I can’t help the label or when I was born. I am just as productive and worthwhile as any older member of society.

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Anonymous wrote:Jesus christ. Millennials are almost 40. Many have multiple kids. They own homes and are managers now at their jobs. I have no idea why idiots still think they're immature college kids.

Actually, Gen Y (millennials) have abysmal marriage, birth and home ownership rates. And their net worth is peanuts vis a vis older generations at the same age. I say that to say the "adolescent" reputation is because overall they're broke, in debt, and not reaching traditional adulthood and investment milestones.

Says more about the shitty state of the country and wealth inequality than gen y.

Ahh. Now we roll out the “wealth inequality” trope. Every generation has had to deal with sh!+. It was usually around 18-24 when the other generations said time to buckle down, graduate, start a family, and suck it up. Millennials seem to have put this off until their thirties and are now finally discovering the world isn’t fair, no one cares how you feel, and you grin and bear it. That’s called life (or adulting for those who prefer that term).

Good lord, stfu. Use actual stats rather than your stupid ass shitty emotion argument of 'back in my day!' like a old crabby asshole.

https://www.federalreserve.gov/econres/feds/files/2018080pap.pdf

The facts about the state of the economy are undeniable.

"Millennials are less well off than members of earlier generations when they were young, with lower earnings, fewer assets, and less wealth." - the federal reserve of the united states

Millennials, despite being younger, also have even more medical debt than Boomers:

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/millennials-rack-up-the-most-medical-debt-and-more-frequently


Gotta love it when asshole boomers who had much better opportunities in life than millennials lecture younger generations on being lazy, avocado toasts, and lack of ambition to grow up as the reasons why they have less wealth while every objective macroeconomic statistics paints a much different story. boomers have been in charge of the economy for decades and their shitty policies have hallowed out the middle class. thanks boomers.

Spoken like a true millennial. Loser.

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Anonymous wrote:As a gen-x manager, I find millennials draining. As someone upthread pointed out, it’s the need for positive feedback, picking and choosing projects based on whether it makes them feel fulfilled, and the inability to shut up and listen and learn that makes me crazy. Part of that is based on characteristics of my generation. - many of our parents were silent generation and we were a lot of latchkey kids. It was kind of ingrained that no one really cared what we thought and you just be quiet and get things done. I’m actually uncomfortable when people gush about my work, and I don’t need rewards - I figure if someone is unhappy they’ll let me know. My workplace is not there to make me feel validated as a human being. I don’t normally think about providing lots of positive feedback. I am very aware of being respectful of peoples’ time out of work and wanting people to have down time, but when it’s your turn to take the grunt work and spend actual time becoming good in what you do, you need to do it.

That’s interesting, because my older managers regularly praise me (early 30s millennial) for being the hardest working person in our office and willing to take on any grunt task. Frankly, they are too lazy to do it themselves and own that, which is kind of funny and refreshing. I don’t mind it because they have my back and award/promote me regularly. Just goes to show you that it’s pointless to generalize.

Girl, I'm sure you're great. But I definitely praise my early 30s employees more than older employees, because I perceive they need it. I never lie, but I deliver praise in the way that people can best receive it. Younger people seem to need it to be more effusive. To me, it's not bad or good. It's different.

Also, to be clear, my older employees absolutely know that I think they are awesome. But I deliver their praise in 1-2 specific, detailed sentences. Beyond that, they get uncomfortable.

It’s all because salaries/wages are NOT keeping up with cost of living!

The problem is that more work and hustling is required to maintain the same baseline bare necessities to get by. Once upon a time, you COULD just get by with showing up. You wouldn’t thrive or even be really that comfortable, but you could afford a modest place of your own with a middling nondescript 9-to-5 job, and if you really worked hard, you could afford more. And many families did this on one income!

Nowadays, you have to keep getting promotions just to stay afloat. There are literally no homes affordable for someone who makes less than $100K. Moderately comfortable lifestyles are only affordable for people on a senior executive track or with two six figure incomes.

We don’t want “validation,” we just want to stay alive.

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Anonymous wrote:They also like talking about themselves incessantly.

I blame their helicopter parents for this. And for social media/the invention of selfies. If I see another millennial trying to take a selfie with 30 different angles of her duckface by the rooftop hotel pool, I'm gonna push her in.

LMAO

+1 seriously. When I see someone who is unashamed of this, I judge. Harshly.

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Anonymous wrote:Jesus christ. Millennials are almost 40. Many have multiple kids. They own homes and are managers now at their jobs. I have no idea why idiots still think they're immature college kids.

Actually, Gen Y (millennials) have abysmal marriage, birth and home ownership rates. And their net worth is peanuts vis a vis older generations at the same age. I say that to say the "adolescent" reputation is because overall they're broke, in debt, and not reaching traditional adulthood and investment milestones.

Says more about the shitty state of the country and wealth inequality than gen y.

Ahh. Now we roll out the “wealth inequality” trope. Every generation has had to deal with sh!+. It was usually around 18-24 when the other generations said time to buckle down, graduate, start a family, and suck it up. Millennials seem to have put this off until their thirties and are now finally discovering the world isn’t fair, no one cares how you feel, and you grin and bear it. That’s called life (or adulting for those who prefer that term).

Good lord, stfu. Use actual stats rather than your stupid ass shitty emotion argument of 'back in my day!' like a old crabby asshole.

https://www.federalreserve.gov/econres/feds/files/2018080pap.pdf

The facts about the state of the economy are undeniable.

"Millennials are less well off than members of earlier generations when they were young, with lower earnings, fewer assets, and less wealth." - the federal reserve of the united states

Millennials, despite being younger, also have even more medical debt than Boomers:

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/millennials-rack-up-the-most-medical-debt-and-more-frequently


Gotta love it when asshole boomers who had much better opportunities in life than millennials lecture younger generations on being lazy, avocado toasts, and lack of ambition to grow up as the reasons why they have less wealth while every objective macroeconomic statistics paints a much different story. boomers have been in charge of the economy for decades and their shitty policies have hallowed out the middle class. thanks boomers.

struck a chord, no? You seem stuck on blaming others for what you perceive to be your poor lot in life. I’m sure there are options for you other than handouts. Again other generations had to deal with less than ideal circumstances. You’re not special in that regard. Get serious, make wise decisions, and you’ll be fine. Or don’t, I’m sure your parents won’t kick you out.

Bullshit. You clearly didn't even read the federal reserve report, because it completely blows up your stupid argument. Millennials makes less money and have more debt than previous generations before them at the same age. Millennials consumption habits haven't changed at all from previous generations before them, so the argument that avocado toasts, spending too much, and not making wise financial decision as the reasons why millennials are poorer is blown up. Use facts idiot, not stupid appeals to emotion.

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Anonymous wrote:Jesus christ. Millennials are almost 40. Many have multiple kids. They own homes and are managers now at their jobs. I have no idea why idiots still think they're immature college kids.

Actually, Gen Y (millennials) have abysmal marriage, birth and home ownership rates. And their net worth is peanuts vis a vis older generations at the same age. I say that to say the "adolescent" reputation is because overall they're broke, in debt, and not reaching traditional adulthood and investment milestones.

Says more about the shitty state of the country and wealth inequality than gen y.

Ahh. Now we roll out the “wealth inequality” trope. Every generation has had to deal with sh!+. It was usually around 18-24 when the other generations said time to buckle down, graduate, start a family, and suck it up. Millennials seem to have put this off until their thirties and are now finally discovering the world isn’t fair, no one cares how you feel, and you grin and bear it. That’s called life (or adulting for those who prefer that term).

Good lord, stfu. Use actual stats rather than your stupid ass shitty emotion argument of 'back in my day!' like a old crabby asshole.

https://www.federalreserve.gov/econres/feds/files/2018080pap.pdf

The facts about the state of the economy are undeniable.

"Millennials are less well off than members of earlier generations when they were young, with lower earnings, fewer assets, and less wealth." - the federal reserve of the united states

Millennials, despite being younger, also have even more medical debt than Boomers:

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/millennials-rack-up-the-most-medical-debt-and-more-frequently


Gotta love it when asshole boomers who had much better opportunities in life than millennials lecture younger generations on being lazy, avocado toasts, and lack of ambition to grow up as the reasons why they have less wealth while every objective macroeconomic statistics paints a much different story. boomers have been in charge of the economy for decades and their shitty policies have hallowed out the middle class. thanks boomers.

struck a chord, no? You seem stuck on blaming others for what you perceive to be your poor lot in life. I’m sure there are options for you other than handouts. Again other generations had to deal with less than ideal circumstances. You’re not special in that regard. Get serious, make wise decisions, and you’ll be fine. Or don’t, I’m sure your parents won’t kick you out.

Anonymous wrote:As a gen-x manager, I find millennials draining. As someone upthread pointed out, it’s the need for positive feedback, picking and choosing projects based on whether it makes them feel fulfilled, and the inability to shut up and listen and learn that makes me crazy. Part of that is based on characteristics of my generation. - many of our parents were silent generation and we were a lot of latchkey kids. It was kind of ingrained that no one really cared what we thought and you just be quiet and get things done. I’m actually uncomfortable when people gush about my work, and I don’t need rewards - I figure if someone is unhappy they’ll let me know. My workplace is not there to make me feel validated as a human being. I don’t normally think about providing lots of positive feedback. I am very aware of being respectful of peoples’ time out of work and wanting people to have down time, but when it’s your turn to take the grunt work and spend actual time becoming good in what you do, you need to do it.

That’s interesting, because my older managers regularly praise me (early 30s millennial) for being the hardest working person in our office and willing to take on any grunt task. Frankly, they are too lazy to do it themselves and own that, which is kind of funny and refreshing. I don’t mind it because they have my back and award/promote me regularly. Just goes to show you that it’s pointless to generalize.

I meet a lot of the millennial stereotypes while still being a productive member of society and don’t believe it’s the end of the world.

I work hard, I have a good job at a Big 4 firm and pull my own weight while not assuming I’m anything special. I have student loan debt and I pay it. I live within my means, but that means I don’t own a home and I don’t have children. I drive a 15 year old beater of a car. I do travel a lot but do so on a budget.

I’m as addicted to social media as the next person but so is my 70 year old mother. I probably received participation trophies as a kid but didn’t give a rats ass about them. I’m a self-identifying socialists who owns Apple products, Amazon prime, and likes Starbucks lattes. I enjoy memes. I voted for Bernie Sanders twice.

I enjoy “productive” hobbies, whatever that means, the outdoors, and fitness. I follow covid restrictions but within reason. I’m not a “Karen.” I share with many other millennials a collective nihilism and cynicism about capitalism while participating in it. I kind of feel like we’re all cogs in the machine that is destroying the planet and civilization but not doing anything about it, because at the end of the day, we need to pay our rent and eat.

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Anonymous wrote:Jesus christ. Millennials are almost 40. Many have multiple kids. They own homes and are managers now at their jobs. I have no idea why idiots still think they're immature college kids.

Actually, Gen Y (millennials) have abysmal marriage, birth and home ownership rates. And their net worth is peanuts vis a vis older generations at the same age. I say that to say the "adolescent" reputation is because overall they're broke, in debt, and not reaching traditional adulthood and investment milestones.

Says more about the shitty state of the country and wealth inequality than gen y.

Ahh. Now we roll out the “wealth inequality” trope. Every generation has had to deal with sh!+. It was usually around 18-24 when the other generations said time to buckle down, graduate, start a family, and suck it up. Millennials seem to have put this off until their thirties and are now finally discovering the world isn’t fair, no one cares how you feel, and you grin and bear it. That’s called life (or adulting for those who prefer that term).

Good lord, stfu. Use actual stats rather than your stupid ass shitty emotion argument of 'back in my day!' like a old crabby asshole.

https://www.federalreserve.gov/econres/feds/files/2018080pap.pdf

The facts about the state of the economy are undeniable.

"Millennials are less well off than members of earlier generations when they were young, with lower earnings, fewer assets, and less wealth." - the federal reserve of the united states

Millennials, despite being younger, also have even more medical debt than Boomers:

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/millennials-rack-up-the-most-medical-debt-and-more-frequently


Gotta love it when asshole boomers who had much better opportunities in life than millennials lecture younger generations on being lazy, avocado toasts, and lack of ambition to grow up as the reasons why they have less wealth while every objective macroeconomic statistics paints a much different story. boomers have been in charge of the economy for decades and their shitty policies have hallowed out the middle class. thanks boomers.

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Anonymous wrote:They also like talking about themselves incessantly.

I blame their helicopter parents for this. And for social media/the invention of selfies. If I see another millennial trying to take a selfie with 30 different angles of her duckface by the rooftop hotel pool, I'm gonna push her in.

LMAO

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Anonymous wrote:Jesus christ. Millennials are almost 40. Many have multiple kids. They own homes and are managers now at their jobs. I have no idea why idiots still think they're immature college kids.

Actually, Gen Y (millennials) have abysmal marriage, birth and home ownership rates. And their net worth is peanuts vis a vis older generations at the same age. I say that to say the "adolescent" reputation is because overall they're broke, in debt, and not reaching traditional adulthood and investment milestones.

Also, about 1 in 3 were living with their parents after college (age 23-37) — pre-Corona. Upwards of 50% are living with their parents during Corona. Both are the highest in 100 years.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/09/04/a-majority-of-young-adults-in-the-u-s-live-with-their-parents-for-the-first-time-since-the-great-depression/

It's almost as if trillions in student loan debt matters, lol.

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Anonymous wrote:Jesus christ. Millennials are almost 40. Many have multiple kids. They own homes and are managers now at their jobs. I have no idea why idiots still think they're immature college kids.

Actually, Gen Y (millennials) have abysmal marriage, birth and home ownership rates. And their net worth is peanuts vis a vis older generations at the same age. I say that to say the "adolescent" reputation is because overall they're broke, in debt, and not reaching traditional adulthood and investment milestones.

Also, about 1 in 3 were living with their parents after college (age 23-37) — pre-Corona. Upwards of 50% are living with their parents during Corona. Both are the highest in 100 years.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/09/04/a-majority-of-young-adults-in-the-u-s-live-with-their-parents-for-the-first-time-since-the-great-depression/