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Anonymous wrote:Cornell is consistently in the top 15 in multiple worldwide rankings, consistently ahead of some of the other ivies. It's usually among the top 20 in nationwide rankings. Many of its programs (engineering, cs, plant and animal science, among others) are among the strongest in the nation. It's a unique university with a wide array of academic programs. I never understand why some bash the school and spread misinformation about it. It's the youngest ivy and was founded with an inclusive attitude toward women and minorities. It's weird that many of the haters don't seem to know much about it but jump in to trash the school whenever they see the name. Why compare Cornell to HYP? They're not trying to be HYP. They're a very different school.

Some of the hate is a cringey meme by dullards who've never stepped foot on campus. It's also the largest Ivy, so it has a lot of dime a dozen above average types who convince themselves they have a genuine chance to get in verse their in-state public university. When they or their child are rejected and end up at Rutgers, GW, UConn, UMD or Michigan, they hold onto that bitterness for the rest of their life. "It wasn't even elite anyways!"

Anonymous wrote:Cornell is consistently in the top 15 in multiple worldwide rankings, consistently ahead of some of the other ivies. It's usually among the top 20 in nationwide rankings. Many of its programs (engineering, cs, plant and animal science, among others) are among the strongest in the nation. It's a unique university with a wide array of academic programs. I never understand why some bash the school and spread misinformation about it. It's the youngest ivy and was founded with an inclusive attitude toward women and minorities. It's weird that many of the haters don't seem to know much about it but jump in to trash the school whenever they see the name. Why compare Cornell to HYP? They're not trying to be HYP. They're a very different school.

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Anonymous wrote:Many lower income families need to weigh the aid packages against each other, and you can't do this with ED.

You can do it in advance by running the net price calculators. Every college has one by law.

Sigh. We keep having this discussion. First of all, all aid packages are not created equal. "Meeting need" doesn't mean they will necessarily give you a grant for the entire amount. It is also true that many private schools (and some publics) may also provide significant merit aid, which is not taken into account in the net price calculator. This can be a big factor for a kid that is toward the higher end of income of those who qualify for financial aid. This is why the system is most helpful to those who are very poor or rich.

https://blog.collegevine.com/schools-that-meet-100-percent-financial-need/

"Sigh". Yes we keep having this discussion, and you keep being wrong about whether any family can have a kid apply ED if the college is affordable. They absolutely can.

Merit Aid is a totally different thing, and that can also be researched. And lots of schools DO put the expected merit aid in the NPC. But guess what? With very few exceptions, if your kid is applying to a school where they will receive merit aid, they don't need any "advantage" from ED.

What you can afford should be determined long before you kid begins the application process. It should NOT be a "toss out the apps and we'll see which one is best". That is why the NPCs are so valuable.

No family should avoid ED for the reasons the PP above states. PP is completely wrong, and any admissions officer, financial aid officer, college counselor, or person in the know will tell you. If you doubt me, ask one, (or all) of them.

PP, you really need to stop this, you are possibly hurting families with your mis-information.

The NPC isn’t foolproof.

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Anonymous wrote:US education is the single biggest scam in the history of the world.

I would have disagreed in decades past, but now? $60-$75k each year? And some get to go for free? Yeah, it is a scam.

Anonymous wrote:US education is the single biggest scam in the history of the world.

Anonymous wrote:Cornell is consistently in the top 15 in multiple worldwide rankings, consistently ahead of some of the other ivies. It's usually among the top 20 in nationwide rankings. Many of its programs (engineering, cs, plant and animal science, among others) are among the strongest in the nation. It's a unique university with a wide array of academic programs. I never understand why some bash the school and spread misinformation about it. It's the youngest ivy and was founded with an inclusive attitude toward women and minorities. It's weird that many of the haters don't seem to know much about it but jump in to trash the school whenever they see the name. Why compare Cornell to HYP? They're not trying to be HYP. They're a very different school.

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Anonymous wrote:Many lower income families need to weigh the aid packages against each other, and you can't do this with ED.

You can do it in advance by running the net price calculators. Every college has one by law.

Sigh. We keep having this discussion. First of all, all aid packages are not created equal. "Meeting need" doesn't mean they will necessarily give you a grant for the entire amount. It is also true that many private schools (and some publics) may also provide significant merit aid, which is not taken into account in the net price calculator. This can be a big factor for a kid that is toward the higher end of income of those who qualify for financial aid. This is why the system is most helpful to those who are very poor or rich.

https://blog.collegevine.com/schools-that-meet-100-percent-financial-need/

"Sigh". Yes we keep having this discussion, and you keep being wrong about whether any family can have a kid apply ED if the college is affordable. They absolutely can.

Merit Aid is a totally different thing, and that can also be researched. And lots of schools DO put the expected merit aid in the NPC. But guess what? With very few exceptions, if your kid is applying to a school where they will receive merit aid, they don't need any "advantage" from ED.

What you can afford should be determined long before you kid begins the application process. It should NOT be a "toss out the apps and we'll see which one is best". That is why the NPCs are so valuable.

No family should avoid ED for the reasons the PP above states. PP is completely wrong, and any admissions officer, financial aid officer, college counselor, or person in the know will tell you. If you doubt me, ask one, (or all) of them.

PP, you really need to stop this, you are possibly hurting families with your mis-information.

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Anonymous wrote:Many lower income families need to weigh the aid packages against each other, and you can't do this with ED.

You can do it in advance by running the net price calculators. Every college has one by law.

Sigh. We keep having this discussion. First of all, all aid packages are not created equal. "Meeting need" doesn't mean they will necessarily give you a grant for the entire amount. It is also true that many private schools (and some publics) may also provide significant merit aid, which is not taken into account in the net price calculator. This can be a big factor for a kid that is toward the higher end of income of those who qualify for financial aid. This is why the system is most helpful to those who are very poor or rich.

https://blog.collegevine.com/schools-that-meet-100-percent-financial-need/

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Anonymous wrote:Many lower income families need to weigh the aid packages against each other, and you can't do this with ED.

You can do it in advance by running the net price calculators. Every college has one by law.

Anonymous wrote:Many lower income families need to weigh the aid packages against each other, and you can't do this with ED.