Anonymous wrote:Online classes for two weeks. Off campus kids not allowed on campus and vice versa.

https://news.nd.edu/news/notre-dame-enacts-two-weeks-of-remote-instruction/

I don't appreciate how they are clearly trying to blame the kids for what was inevitable.

Anonymous wrote:Online classes for two weeks. Off campus kids not allowed on campus and vice versa.

https://news.nd.edu/news/notre-dame-enacts-two-weeks-of-remote-instruction/

That’s cute. If it’s doubling every day in two week that will be...yikes.

ND has been a bit arrogant in their approach, asserting months ago they would go into in person classes without despite whatever might have been the case when they arrived on campus. The testing has been woeful, the medical advice on campus confusing, and the social regulation non-existent.

This two-week grace period is designed to ease the pressure on Jenkins when he has to make another announcement in 14 days, possibly sending people home. Deflecting to the "off campus" partiers when the numbers are now showing secondary infections beyond the party due to campus testing and isolation failings.

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Anonymous wrote:http://wsbt.com/news/operation-education/notre-dame-students-share-coronavirus-testing-struggles

I saw this article on reddit. What a disaster.

Wow.

This matches what is being said on Twitter and on campus. They are in over their heads.

Love the arrogant, combative ND admin guy. "Let me just stop you there..." What a jackass. Unbelievable.

No mention of what happens to the football program if kids get sent home.

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Anonymous wrote:Notre Dame president says they were going to send students home, but have decided in interim steps for the time being.

Undergrad classes move to remote instruction for the next two weeks.

On campus students will face more restrictions on their movements, off campus residents should stay off campus.

Trying to contain the virus to get back to in person instruction.

If these steps are not successful, they will have to send everyone home as they did last spring.

Prez says off campus socializing has been a big source of infection and spread. Asks everyone to observe health protocols. Promises to enhance testing of people experiencing symptoms, and surveillance testing of people without symptoms.

This is the classic kicking the can down the road. If you have a student at ND, you might want to bring them home now to beat the rush.

THIS. They are delaying the inevitable. What a joke.

Ridiculous. My kid would be coming home now.

Anonymous wrote:Notre Dame president says they were going to send students home, but have decided in interim steps for the time being.

Undergrad classes move to remote instruction for the next two weeks.

On campus students will face more restrictions on their movements, off campus residents should stay off campus.

Trying to contain the virus to get back to in person instruction.

If these steps are not successful, they will have to send everyone home as they did last spring.

Prez says off campus socializing has been a big source of infection and spread. Asks everyone to observe health protocols. Promises to enhance testing of people experiencing symptoms, and surveillance testing of people without symptoms.

This is the classic kicking the can down the road. If you have a student at ND, you might want to bring them home now to beat the rush.

THIS. They are delaying the inevitable. What a joke.

Notre Dame president says they were going to send students home, but have decided in interim steps for the time being.

Undergrad classes move to remote instruction for the next two weeks.

On campus students will face more restrictions on their movements, off campus residents should stay off campus.

Trying to contain the virus to get back to in person instruction.

If these steps are not successful, they will have to send everyone home as they did last spring.

Prez says off campus socializing has been a big source of infection and spread. Asks everyone to observe health protocols. Promises to enhance testing of people experiencing symptoms, and surveillance testing of people without symptoms.

This is the classic kicking the can down the road. If you have a student at ND, you might want to bring them home now to beat the rush.

Online classes for two weeks. Off campus kids not allowed on campus and vice versa.

https://news.nd.edu/news/notre-dame-enacts-two-weeks-of-remote-instruction/

Suspending on-campus instruction for two weeks.

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Anonymous wrote:Is Notre Dame still 100% (or nearly) on campus housing all 4 years? I believe it used to be required, yes? Unsure if that's changed.

Even in the '80's, only freshmen were required to live on campus.

Thank you, I had no idea. If it's been optional that long, what % of sophomores, juniors, and seniors did still elect to remain on campus? I think it was certainly far more common than at other schools.

I don't know the exact numbers, but nearly 100% of freshmen and sophomores live on campus. (only freshman whose parents live in south bend are able to not live on campus, and of those almost all live on campus anyway) A lot of juniors study abroad for one or both semesters. Those that are abroad for one semester almost always live on campus the other semester (and at least used to be guaranteed to return to their original dorm, but I don't know if that's true now or now). Seniors is more of a mixed bag - a lot move off campus in my experience.

They changed the requirement in the last 2 years.

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Anonymous wrote:Is Notre Dame still 100% (or nearly) on campus housing all 4 years? I believe it used to be required, yes? Unsure if that's changed.

Even in the '80's, only freshmen were required to live on campus.

Thank you, I had no idea. If it's been optional that long, what % of sophomores, juniors, and seniors did still elect to remain on campus? I think it was certainly far more common than at other schools.

I don't know the exact numbers, but nearly 100% of freshmen and sophomores live on campus. (only freshman whose parents live in south bend are able to not live on campus, and of those almost all live on campus anyway) A lot of juniors study abroad for one or both semesters. Those that are abroad for one semester almost always live on campus the other semester (and at least used to be guaranteed to return to their original dorm, but I don't know if that's true now or now). Seniors is more of a mixed bag - a lot move off campus in my experience.

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Anonymous wrote: Notre Dame president scheduled 5:00 press conference. Huge lines to get tested today on campus.

You're about to hear the sound of the plug being pulled on in-person instruction at Notre Dame this fall.

I suspect a two week shutdown of in person but not sending kids home. Yet.

Sweetheart, no one is getting covid in a classroom with a mask on, seated six feet away from other students. These outbreaks are 100% a dorm issue. Nothing short of vacating the dorms is going to make a difference at any school.

Sweetheart, students sitting in a poorly ventilated classroom for an hour at a time, walking next to each other to get into and out of classrooms, not always wearing masks correctly, wearing bandanas or neck gaiters, touching their faces, their desks, and doors, are certainly at risk for transmitting and catching coronavirus.
It is not just a dorm issue, it is an issue of having thousands of 20 year olds on a campus for hours at a time with little enforcement of optimal health guidelines.

Kids not getting them in classrooms...just parties.

Not all the cases have been traced to parties. And if you've seen the Reddit thread on ND, the testing situation is an utter fiasco. Not everyone who wants a test is getting one.

It's not just from parties. Also I don't think faculty will be able to deal with kids who refuse to wear masks in classes. My kids school is still having some classes in person and I know students will be in classes refusing to follow the protocols. Is the teacher actually going to call in security to remove a kid? After it happens a few times, they'll ignore it just like the stores do.

Anonymous wrote:120 of the tests reported today were for the football team which is kind of in a bubble. That means the percent positive of tests (non-football) is 26%

That’s is unacceptable. We have to do a better job of protecting these football players.

Holy shit they are almost at 150 cases.... their doubling rate was 1-2 days which is bad but now < 1 day... WTF.